The Terrorism Files - 2015, 2016

[CM86]

On the Japanese public transport system there are signs warning of groping and sexual harassment.

Unusual shitting practices aren't limited to Muslim immigrants. Check this bizarre Japanese sign out

This one from Singapore advises against public defecation

I actually saw signs like this in Hong Kong

Of course, the only way to break people out of these unwanted (by our standards) practices is through education.

http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/swimming/pools/fecal-incident-response-recommendations.pdf

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/swimming/pools/fecal-incident-response-recommendations.pdf

Dispatch: All units, all units, we have a formed-stool incident at the City Baths. Please respond. Over.
Unit 2: Oh. Oh shit. That's a correction, dispatch. We have a diarrheal fecal incident on splashdown with maximum public exposure.
(sounds of people screaming)
Unit 2: Oh God. Where's the HAZMAT team? I... oh...

-communication ends-

 

[CM86]

Dispatch: All units, all units, we have a formed-stool incident at the City Baths. Please respond. Over.
Unit 2: Oh. Oh shit. That's a correction, dispatch. We have a diarrheal fecal incident on splashdown with maximum public exposure.
(sounds of people screaming)
Unit 2: Oh God. Where's the HAZMAT team? I... oh...

-communication ends-

Have a friend, who is now a respected surgeon... who used to be a lifeguard.
One day when he was hungover and wanted to finish work 3 hours early... he put a rubber glove on his hand... squatted down and dropped a log, snuck it out to the waterpark pool... and dropped it in.
Any sign of fecal matter there and everyone has to get out, the entire system is turned off until the shit is removed, and then the system has run for 2.5 hours before anyone can get back in.

So, the pool closed early that day.

Humble beginnings...

 

[Total Power]

Ok. Settle down.
You're starting to get silly again. We are having a discussion. (The discussion keeps jumping from place to place, but I think I'm doing a good job in chasing you.).

So, I'm going to ignore questions like "why do you hate native people so much?".

All I offered was an -idealism-, to fix the problems that you were talking about re immigration.

More people should kiss in public then.
If people are willing to go back to Turkey because of something so silly, let them go.
Now that they're gone... what's the problem?

And there was no problem with Yugoslavians integrating into German society?

Because some cant afford to go back as they have left nothing behind? like young unaccompanied males? the ones to go back are usually families with daughters. Hence you have the problem, they come here thinking sex is free. Theres been courses in norway, denmark, sweden to tell them not to touch women, and they replied "oh really, in my country we can take any women we like". These attitudes in young men will remain, unless you put a lot of effort in integrating them.Its ok if the numbers are low but if millions and millions come in, you will see what i mean.

I think there are options other than either chef or kebab shop.

It was just an example, my point was they would rather remain unemployed than follow something their religion doesnt permit to do. First step towards integration hey?

I think religion is stupid. But do you think that people shouldn't be able to have religious rights?
Was there a situation, where the chef could work in the restaurant, as long as they didn't have to handle pork in any way?

I will tell you what i would do in their situation. I will take the job and give my family a chance to get a decent life in Germany. The more religiously indoctrinated you are, the worse it is, the same applies to christianity as well. You need to accept german values if you are in Germany. They will not work in restaurant AT ALL if pork is served in that restaurant. There was an article in a french newspaper about this a few months ago.

Did they all speak the local language?
With the number of different types of jobs that would never have you interact with pork, why have you jumped onto this, after I asked you about the language barrier?

No they dont speak german, they were offered a job as an assistant line cook, they refused it cause they will not take pork orders. Have you read the article a few weeks ago where about a hundred muslims resigned cause the office wont let them pray 5 times a day?? they say religion is more important to them than work. I am ALL for freedom of religion but dont blackmail a company into changing their policies as it suits you. Now they have filed a lawsuit on the company for not allowing them to pray.

I'm up to page 29 "Invandrares brottslighet"
And from what I understand, it's saying that results are skewed due to the level of crimes, the nationality, the location, and the crime itself. Which I think is going against what you originally posted it for.
But, I'll have to keep looking, because my request for your help, just had you tell me I'm in denial, and you've given me more reading.

Let me help if you cant read swedish.

A 1996 report by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention reached the conclusion that immigrants from North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia) were 23 times as likely to commit rape as Swedish men. The figures for men from Iraq, Bulgaria and Romania were, respectively, 20, 18 and 18. Men from the rest of Africa were 16 times more prone to commit rape; and men from Iran, Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia, 10 times as prone as Swedish men.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

Convicted of rape in 2010

Danes 32

Iraqis and descendants 7

Iranians and descendants 4

Turks and descendants 4

Lebanese and descendants 3

Somalis and descendants 2

Afghans and descendants 2

But I'd agree that it's still a massive over-representation for the population percentage.
But, can you actually connect that to a culture?

Look at the data from other countries, how about france???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...8/What-is-going-wrong-in-Frances-prisons.html

France's prison population is estimated to be 70 per cent Muslim - and yet there are fewer imams visiting French prisons than British. Critics of the French state say it is no surprise that Islamist recruiters, like those who enticed Paris terrorists Cherif Kouachi and Amedy Coulibaly, are finding prison a fertile hunting ground

But no problems right? just a coindence? i can provide similar stats for a few other EU nations are well, but you will still be in denial.

Because I don't think Aboriginals are bad, or that we need to do something about 'them'. But they are very heavily over-represented in crime stats. Rape included.

If you would give us the rights to integrate or assimilate in the society for 200 years then i would agree. But whatelse do you expect us to be when we werent even considered humans for 200 years??? my father couldnt even go to a pub to have a beer. So how will you expect us to integrate????

OK... Buddhists vs Muslims...
Is this cognitive dissonance?

Your previous post... points out that for the population... immigrants are over represented. But now you're comparing Buddhists with Muslims.

Stats for global religion:

Buddhism - 360 million

Islam - 1.3 billion

http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/history/bud_statwrld.htm

Why have you done it this way?

Ok Hindus? how many hindus are on terror watch list in Australia? Hindus are 1.3% in Australia compared to 2% Muslims, similar numbers, so how many Hindu terrorists are on watchlist, cause i can tell you the Muslim numbers

 

[CM86]

Thats rubbish, i have posted a research from swedish government (old report 15 years ago) thats a Maghreb is 23 times more prone to commit a rape than an average Swede. Here is the link http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/05/08/br-1996-2-invandrares-och-invandrares-barns-brottslighet-1/

Up to page 42...
"
men det övervägande flertalet invandrare, 88 procent,
har inte registreratsjOr någotbrottalls."

Says that the overwhelming majority, 88%, have committed no crime at all.

And three times more likely for serious crimes like rape.
So, I'm not sure where you got the 23 times...
Or how this pdf supports your claim that it is a cultural thing...

I might leave it there, because I've not found anything that backs your claim. And I'm getting a little sick of doing all the work. Especially as you seem more interested in jumping from topic to topic, while dishing out insults.

 

[Total Power]

45% in Belgium, why CM86, why is there a higher representation of Muslim prison population compared to other religions? care to explain?

http://www.sudinfo.be/726092/articl...s-prisons-belges-sont-de-confession-musulmane

 

[CM86]

45% in Belgium, why CM86, why is there a higher representation of Muslim prison population compared to other religions? care to explain?

http://www.sudinfo.be/726092/articl...s-prisons-belges-sont-de-confession-musulmane

• In 2013, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander prisoners made up 86 per cent of the prison population.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4517.0main+features100002013

But make up 29.77% of the population in the N.T.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians


So, is it their culture? Are we in danger from Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders?

 

[Total Power]

Up to page 42...
"
men det övervägande flertalet invandrare, 88 procent,
har inte registreratsjOr någotbrottalls."

Says that the overwhelming majority, 88%, have committed no crime at all.

And three times more likely for serious crimes like rape.
So, I'm not sure where you got the 23 times...
Or how this pdf supports your claim that it is a cultural thing...

I might leave it there, because I've not found anything that backs your claim. And I'm getting a little sick of doing all the work. Especially as you seem more interested in jumping from topic to topic, while dishing out insults.

Lol cause you understand swedsh right, let me help again for the 100th time..page 51, look at Våldtäkt , which means rape, in terms of nationality.

 

[Total Power]

• In 2013, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander prisoners made up 86 per cent of the prison population.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4517.0main+features100002013

But make up 29.77% of the population in the N.T.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians


So, is it their culture? Are we in danger from Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders?

i responded above, you didnt even bother to read, if you are not reading my response why are you responding to me?

 

[CM86]

Lol cause you understand swedsh right, let me help again for the 100th time..page 51, look at Våldtäkt , which means rape, in terms of nationality.

Nope. Google translate has been vital.
What languages do you read?

i responded above, you didnt even bother to read, if you are not reading my response why are you responding to me?

Yeah, wasn't your response about 200 years? And not being allowed to integrate?

See... this isn't an insult. But I think you're so invested in this ideology, that you have cognitive dissonance.

If someone shows me the stats on Indigenous incarceration, or Muslim incarceration, I will not look at them as bad people, I will look at the surrounding circumstances and form a better understanding.

You on the other hand, are happy to explain why and justify why it is that way for the indigenous population, while using it as a damning figure against muslims.

 

[Total Power]

Nope. Google translate has been vital.
What languages do you read?

Swedish/German/Norwegian. 3.5% of the Maghreb community have committed rape.While i agree with you that majority are innocents but 3.5 percent is massive number, now add 7.7 of them committed armed robbery. Thats every almost 8 out of 100 people.Sorry not a small number to me. Trying to prove stats to you is tiring, you keep asking for proof, well i dont think any amount of proof will convince you anyway.

Yeah, wasn't your response about 200 years? And not being allowed to integrate?

See... this isn't an insult. But I think you're so invested in this ideology, that you have cognitive dissonance.

If someone shows me the stats on Indigenous incarceration, or Muslim incarceration, I will not look at them as bad people, I will look at the surrounding circumstances and form a better understanding.

You on the other hand, are happy to explain why and justify why it is that way for the indigenous population, while using it as a damning figure against muslims.

Wow say what? so now Muslims are on the same boat as us for 200 years? do tell, if Muslims living in Germany were forcefully removed from their homes or not? or muslims not considered humans? we had no access to healthcare, education/dole or even passports for the love of Christ. How is it the same??? i never said not all muslims are bad people, i have admitted majority are good people, but how to deal with the elements that come with them?

 

[CM86]

Well I'm all fun'd out for one night.

 

[Total Power]

Well I'm all fun'd out for one night.

its good to talk to you when you play the ball and not the man

 

[CM86]

its good to talk to you when you play the ball and not the man

Are you actually saying thanks for the discussion? Or are you saying that I was playing the man?

 

[Total Power]

Are you actually saying thanks for the discussion? Or are you saying that I was playing the man?

I blocked you previously cause you are good at personal insults. This time you were clean so yeah we disagree on something, so be it, such is life

 

[Mike Smyth]

Banning the perpetrators rather than anyone who looks like a refugee... sounds like a better idea.

Did they implement a passport checking system at the door? Or was it up to the bouncer?
Or were people banned based on their race? Because racism is discrimination based on race.

Have you ever travelled through the Middle East, especually Egypt. Try travelling with a western woman. Good luck.

 

[Lebbo73]

Up to page 42...
"
men det övervägande flertalet invandrare, 88 procent,
har inte registreratsjOr någotbrottalls."

Says that the overwhelming majority, 88%, have committed no crime at all.

And three times more likely for serious crimes like rape.
So, I'm not sure where you got the 23 times...
Or how this pdf supports your claim that it is a cultural thing...

I might leave it there, because I've not found anything that backs your claim. And I'm getting a little sick of doing all the work. Especially as you seem more interested in jumping from topic to topic, while dishing out insults.

You are getting totally owned on a topic you know nothing about. Give it up.
We have all this talk about protecting women from DV and sexual assaults, protecting peoples freedoms, political correctness, etc. Funny how as soon as it is mentioned that there is a bigger problem with Muslims and the above issues, the usual suspects on BF go missing or cry bigotry and racism.
When there is an obvious issue that needs to be highlighted and dealt with, stop hiding from it and face it head on!

 

[CM86]

I blocked you previously cause you are good at personal insults. This time you were clean so yeah we disagree on something, so be it, such is life

Thanks. I enjoyed it as well. And it gave me a better insight into some areas.

I'm trying to be more like Geelong_Sicko and less like an angry reactor.
Have to move passed my discomfort at having my beliefs challenged.

 

[CM86]

Have you ever travelled through the Middle East, especually Egypt. Try travelling with a western woman. Good luck.

I haven't in Egypt, no.
But in France, near 30 years ago. And it wasn't any Muslims (that I could identify) that harassed her.

Have you?
If so, did you find it varied depending on the socioeconomic side of things? Or was it universal sexual harassment ?

 

[Maggie5]

I haven't in Egypt, no.
But in France, near 30 years ago. And it wasn't any Muslims (that I could identify) that harassed her.

Have you?
If so, did you find it varied depending on the socioeconomic side of things? Or was it universal sexual harassment ?

I have traveled through Greece as a western woman (before AS) and I can tell you that it was no fun but was very interesting when they thought that you didn't speak the language. Egypt, Greece, Italy, France (Italians do it with a bit more class though).

Man or woman no fun in the Bronx, USA either.

 

[Mike Smyth]

I haven't in Egypt, no.
But in France, near 30 years ago. And it wasn't any Muslims (that I could identify) that harassed her.

Have you?
If so, did you find it varied depending on the socioeconomic side of things? Or was it universal sexual harassment ?

I spent a couple of months travelling through the middle east and its universal, especially in Egypt.

 

[Malifice]

i never said not all muslims are bad people, i have admitted majority are good people, but how to deal with the elements that come with them?

By looking at the root causes of the problem, and dealing with that.

You dont punish a majority for the actions of a minority. New migrant groups from poor regions of the world always bring an increase in crime. Thats an accepted fact. The Irish gangs in New York (and here in Australia), Vietnamese gangs, Italian organised crime etc etc. Poor migrant communities have (and suffer from mind you) higher crime rates. Low socio economics and all that. Its not disputed.

We need to work on ameliorating or addressing the socio-economic causes for the higher rates of victimisation and perpetuation of crime in these groups.

 

[Schache It Off]

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....nline-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...uslims-have-sympathy-for-jihadis-in-poll.html

Yep, minority of Muslims lol.

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

And yes, I know who said it.

 

[Total Power]

By looking at the root causes of the problem, and dealing with that.

You dont punish a majority for the actions of a minority. New migrant groups from poor regions of the world always bring an increase in crime. Thats an accepted fact. The Irish gangs in New York (and here in Australia), Vietnamese gangs, Italian organised crime etc etc. Poor migrant communities have (and suffer from mind you) higher crime rates. Low socio economics and all that. Its not disputed.

We need to work on ameliorating or addressing the socio-economic causes for the higher rates of victimisation and perpetuation of crime in these groups.

In an ideal world i will agree with you but your ideas sound good....in theory. Unfortnately in the practical world it doesnt work with mass migration like this. The actions of the minority matters in this case, its always 10 here, 10 there that adds up, take Salafists, they are approaching 10,000 and thats the official figure. Refugees themselves have said there is ISIS amongst them. (It cannot be women, children or parents, it has to be young men). It only takes a few people to cause havoc like we saw in Paris. So who is going to be responsible for the next Paris? you are saying we cannot generalise, fair enough, but most of these crimes are committed by young unaccompanied males. Also i asked a question about deportation. Germany cannot deport people they want to deport cause of lack of paperwork. So ask you again how do you get rid of these elements?

 

[Total Power]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/0...th-islamists-isis-vets-amid-refugee-wave.html

so 680 islamists identified in Berlin and they say salafists are recruiting heavily too. So how do we stop this??

and 680 is not small figure, that figure will grow rapidly as they will recruit heavily.