Roast Mark Robinson

[FuManchu]

Of course the major talking point should be the amount of AFL players who tested positive for illicit drugs. But it is the amount of Collingwood players who tested positive instead. As has been discussed previously. It is a serious AFL problem at all club levels. But that discussion has been hijacked because somebody wanted to just make it about us to sell more papers. How much talk is there about it on the other club boards for instance? Bugger all because most of them are pointing the finger at us. I'm pretty sure it was Ed on his radio station that said some of the players were called druggies on Saturday night by the crowd. Sure we should be concerned about the positive tests, but most of the other clubs probably aren't because we are taking the can for all of them because of Robbo. I'm also stunned that you don't get that.

What can?

Has the club been banned?

Have players been suspended?

Have players been named?

If players are getting called druggies, then if that's the worst thing they get called on a football field, they'll be doing well.

If you think this is taking the can, then I'm afraid you don't have a very strong constitution. This is as mild as mild can get.

If and when the other club's numbers get leaked, then I expect it will be publicised much in the same way Collingwood's has. I've already seen a list, not confirmed, possibly and probably bogus, but if true, it will quieten any ridiculous accusations.

 

[JB1975]

That strawman has seen 2 players suspended for 2 years for the very activity that was published.

You suggested that no one cared about the fact that Collingwood players are taking illicit drugs. That's the straw man I was referring to, in case you missed it. I can see that you have no real argument, that you're trying to win by exhaustion. Good luck with that.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Murdoch needs something polished, off you go now.

Can't polish a turd

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Can't polish a turd

Mythbusters would disagree but who says it was a turd??

 

[Saintly Viewed]

QCs at the HS checking articles? Evidence for that?

Ahem, you are on the money.
HS would have counsel but that would be solicitors.
QCs are barristers who do stuff in court.
Solicitors do all the other stuff

 

[FuManchu]

You suggested that no one cared about the fact that Collingwood players are taking illicit drugs. That's the straw man I was referring to, in case you missed it. I can see that you have no real argument, that you're trying to win by exhaustion. Good luck with that.

If people keep arguing the same point, so will I.

 

[left at home]

I love roundabouts

then you must love qld we have them at nearly every corner

 

[FuManchu]

Just for the record, the unconfirmed list is as follows.

Hawthorn 21
Brisbane 16
Collingwood 11
Geelong 10
Adelaide 10
Freo 9
Carlton 9
St Kilda 9
Sydney 9
West Coast 8
Port 7
GWS 7
Melb 6
Richmond 5
Bulldogs 5
Gold Coast 4
Essendon 4
Nth 3

Which does tie in with 2 other bits of information previously published. Firstly that an interstate club was in top 3 and the bottom ranked club had 3 positives.

 

[frizzle]

What can?

Has the club been banned?

Have players been suspended?

Have players been named?

If players are getting called druggies, then if that's the worst thing they get called on a football field, they'll be doing well.

If you think this is taking the can, then I'm afraid you don't have a very strong constitution. This is as mild as mild can get.

If and when the other club's numbers get leaked, then I expect it will be publicised much in the same way Collingwood's has. I've already seen a list, not confirmed, possibly and probably bogus, but if true, it will quieten any ridiculous accusations.

Players haven't been named but our club has & only our club. You seem to think this is fair even though most players & coaches at all clubs would disagree with you. Pretty much the same as this thread huh?
Is there a picture of any other club on a web site or newspaper when this topic is discussed. Nope, it's us every single time. The players may now all say get stuffed, we aren't going to do off season testing now & then nothing will get resolved or offer future solutions to what is a serious problem at all clubs.
You don't get any of this because you don't want to. Like I said you want have too many mates on this subject here. I'm done with you.

 

[TradeDraft]

What a Insult from the Fat campaigner having his Wednesday Love is Buddy after he Destroyed our 1st Rd Chances

 

[FuManchu]

Players haven't been named but our club has & only our club. You seem to think this is fair even though most players & coaches at all clubs would disagree with you. Pretty much the same as this thread huh?
Is there a picture of any other club on a web site or newspaper when this topic is discussed. Nope, it's us every single time. The players may now all say get stuffed, we aren't going to do off season testing now & then nothing will get resolved or offer future solutions to what is a serious problem at all clubs.
You don't get any of this because you don't want to. Like I said you want have too many mates on this subject here. I'm done with you.

Is looking for mates a criteria for posting?

 

[frizzle]

What a Insult from the Fat campaigner having his Wednesday Love is Buddy after he Destroyed our 1st Rd Chances

Dave why are you watching the ass?

 

[sirlothie]

Just for the record, the unconfirmed list is as follows.

Hawthorn 21
Brisbane 16
Collingwood 11
Geelong 10
Adelaide 10
Freo 9
Carlton 9
St Kilda 9
Sydney 9
West Coast 8
Port 7
GWS 7
Melb 6
Richmond 5
Bulldogs 5
Gold Coast 4
Essendon 4
Nth 3

Which does tie in with 2 other bits of information previously published. Firstly that an interstate club was in top 3 and the bottom ranked club had 3 positives.

C'mon we just need 10 more and we might win a premiership!

 

[sirlothie]

Dave why are you watching the ass?

He always gives me the jimmy brits so I don't listen to the campaigner.

 

[Pdid]

Stop blaming Robinson! The man is an idiot but he is doing his job here. He has a very good and watertight source, the truth of his article is very correct. Think laterally, the Herald Sun have a team of 5 in house lawyers, they also have a QC that double checks their big stories. Do you think those lawyers are going to OK such an article if it puts the paper at threat in terms of a potential law suit? Based on Collingwood not raising an injunction or litigation towards the paper over the article is a clear indication that Robinson is on the money here and despite the public outcrys from Buckley and McGuire, they would know Robinson is correct.

Ok Mr. QC.

Because they didnt sue or take legal action robbo MUST be right.

Like the left field approach but 1 + 1 doesnt equal 3.

I could think of many many reasons that legal action wouldnt be taken. One Example: costs of taking legal action is = to or less than damage taken by brand + financial reward.

 

[TheSierBear]

Ok Mr. QC.

Because they didnt sue or take legal action robbo MUST be right.

Like the left field approach but 1 + 1 doesnt equal 3.

I could think of many many reasons that legal action wouldnt be taken. One Example: costs of taking legal action is = to or less than damage taken by brand + financial reward.

Yeah Collingwood can't really do much they just need to suck it up which is the worst part. Learn from Essendon case 101. Not that we are in the same ballpark as what went down there, but the court injunctions dragged their club through the mud for years, it was nauseating. Collingwood handled the Thomas/Keeffe cases very well. The'll handle this pretty much similar to that. This will die on it's arse soon enough.

 

[PicaBoo]

If and when the other club's numbers get leaked, then I expect it will be publicised much in the same way Collingwood's has.

And that is where most posters rally against. It won't. Will those clubs higher then ours be splattered over the front page or feature in prime time TV article. No they won't.
More likely "Collingwood drug scandal continues. Other clubs named" with almost every paragraph featuring Collingwood . Whether it is Pert (2x) Maxwell our druggies or the 3rd place furore we are in now.
That is worth complaining about. Not where we are in regards to others. Not until we got definitive figures. That you choose to turn it into "the sky is falling and I need someone to blame " thread, is of course your good right but as much based on hearsay as Robbo's.

 

[sirlothie]

Yeah Collingwood can't really do much they just need to suck it up which is the worst part. Learn from Essendon case 101. Not that we are in the same ballpark as what went down there, but the court injunctions dragged their club through the mud for years, it was nauseating. Collingwood handled the Thomas/Keeffe cases very well. The'll handle this pretty much similar to that. This will die on it's arse soon enough.

We aren't on our Pat Malone here, everyone is doing it so while it is a problem you can't really say it's a Collingwood problem.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

ps. hopefully you didn't choke on your own froth typing that,

Unlike: This Is Spinal Tap's drummer* who died choking on someone else's vomit!

* one of 30 + drummers who died in mysterious circumstances

 

[TheSierBear]

We aren't on our Pat Malone here, everyone is doing it so while it is a problem you can't really say it's a Collingwood problem.

I know that, but as far as taking this to court, I agree with PDID, they won't do it as it will tarnish the brand.

 

[PicaBoo]

Stop blaming Robinson! The man is an idiot but he is doing his job here. He has a very good and watertight source, the truth of his article is very correct. Think laterally, the Herald Sun have a team of 5 in house lawyers, they also have a QC that double checks their big stories. Do you think those lawyers are going to OK such an article if it puts the paper at threat in terms of a potential law suit? Based on Collingwood not raising an injunction or litigation towards the paper over the article is a clear indication that Robinson is on the money here and despite the public outcrys from Buckley and McGuire, they would know Robinson is correct.

Being safe from lawsuits <> 100% factually correct.

 

[FuManchu]

And that is where most posters rally against. It won't. Will those clubs higher then ours be splattered over the front page or feature in prime time TV article. No they won't.
More likely "Collingwood drug scandal continues. Other clubs named" with almost every paragraph featuring Collingwood . Whether it is Pert (2x) Maxwell our druggies or the 3rd place furore we are in now.
That is worth complaining about. Not where we are in regards to others. Not until we got definitive figures. That you choose to turn it into "the sky is falling and I need someone to blame " thread, is of course your good right but as much based on hearsay as Robbo's.

Possibly true. But if the figures I've seen are true, then I'd say one club in particular will come under intense scrutiny.

But that doesn't mean he shouldn't run with what leak he was given. No matter the agenda of the leaker to single out Collingwoood.

 

[jmac70]

Possibly true. But if the figures I've seen are true, then I'd say one club in particular will come under intense scrutiny.

But that doesn't mean he shouldn't run with what leak he was given. No matter the agenda of the leaker to single out Collingwoood.

Did you dream about Slobbo last night?

 

[beerbandit]

Buckley said "We're Done".....

As am I!!

 

[PicaBoo]

Possibly true. But if the figures I've seen are true, then I'd say one club in particular will come under intense scrutiny.

But that doesn't mean he shouldn't run with what leak he was given. No matter the agenda of the leaker to single out Collingwoood.

The scrutiny won't be there in order to protect the AFL brand.
Slobbo did a speculative hasty job, with no other intent then dragging Collingwood through the mud. Nothing more nothing less. He has nothing to justify his actions apart from "this is all I got".
To paraphrase Eddie. It would be like breathalysing everyone after the Herald Sun XMas party and splash on frontpage Slobbo is an alcoholic.
Oh wait....