Traded Tom Mitchell [traded to Hawthorn with pick 57 for pick 14 & 52]

[YEMOC NAYR]

I don't understand why Mitchell would want to leave Sydney, unless he sees too many good Academy players coming through. Sydney are paying him well enough. He gets to play in a strong team, manages to play consistent finals footy and has a reasonable chance of being in a premiership team. It is his Old Man's club. That sounds like some good reasons to stay.
If he decides to go, Hawthorn would have to come up with the sort of deal that would get O'Meara. I can't see them managing it. They don't have enough good players who want to leave or any draft picks that Sydney would want.

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[beowulf]

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Hawthorn generally don't pay that high. They use their status as contender to keep good players at the club at under market value. To offer Mitchell the type of money you posit would be out of character. However, I guess Hawthorn saw what Geelong did and want to keep relevant as well.

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

Hawthorn generally don't pay that high. They use their status as contender to keep good players at the club at under market value. To offer Mitchell the type of money you posit would be out of character. However, I guess Hawthorn saw what Geelong did and want to keep relevant as well.

The offer for Mitchell is just very low comparable to the Hawks offer. There was obvious fallouts with the massive buddy/tippett deals that the swans signed. Mummy was one casualty, and it looks like Mitchell can be the next (unless he wants to play for just about above average wage)

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

What would the Hawks rate Langford?

 

[Goats]

What would the Hawks rate Langford?

I can't see Langford agreeing to leaving Hawthorn with another little brother set to join the club next year.

His value would probably be a late second to early third rounder.

 

[bradburygold]

Hawthorn generally don't pay that high. They use their status as contender to keep good players at the club at under market value. To offer Mitchell the type of money you posit would be out of character. However, I guess Hawthorn saw what Geelong did and want to keep relevant as well.

390k v 550k is a big difference, whilst not being overs from hawks


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[Ace Cannon]

Langford 3rd round tops has fallen of a cliff since 2014 gf . Disposal and decision making very questionable .

 

[tige19]

Langford 3rd round tops has fallen of a cliff since 2014 gf . Disposal and decision making very questionable .

I don't see any questions about it, it's deplorable. The only reason he can't get a game is for that reason, such a shame as the kid is a bull.

 

[Slax]

His value would probably be a late second to early third rounder.

No chance of anything under pick 40 for Langford.

 

[HFF]

How is Sydney only offering Mitchell $380k per season- an actual reduction on his current deal when he has become a full blown regular in their side?
To be honest, Mitchell should be a little insulted at the offer and you can't begrudge him if he decides to move to Hawthorn.

 

[Scotland]

Mayne is being offered 4 years at $500k - apparently.

On that basis, Mitchell is worth about $2m a season.

 

[Super Hans]

After Jaeger officially nominated Hawks I just can't see them getting this deal done. Carlton should be licking their lips, get him and Cripps doing the gruntwork for the next decade.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

After Jaeger officially nominated Hawks I just can't see them getting this deal done. Carlton should be licking their lips, get him and Cripps doing the gruntwork for the next decade.

Sydney are too, Carlton have more assets that are attainable.

 

[Goats]

No chance of anything under pick 40 for Langford.

Well Langford won't be traded for a pick so it's a pointless exercise discussing it.

 

[dlanod]

Mayne is being offered 4 years at $500k - apparently.

On that basis, Mitchell is worth about $2m a season.

If we use the Mayne deal as a basis, I'm worth about $750k a season...

 

[Ace Cannon]

Tigers as bad as they are need Mitchell ahead of Prestia and should offer the 5 year 700 k to him . That would be the smart thing to do :-/ . On durability alone .

 

[Superstar swan]

How is Sydney only offering Mitchell $380k per season- an actual reduction on his current deal when he has become a full blown regular in their side?
To be honest, Mitchell should be a little insulted at the offer and you can't begrudge him if he decides to move to Hawthorn.

maybe they are factoring in that they were paying mitchell 500k a year when he was in the twos to keep him away from gws

 

[bungwahl]

How is Sydney only offering Mitchell $380k per season- an actual reduction on his current deal when he has become a full blown regular in their side?
To be honest, Mitchell should be a little insulted at the offer and you can't begrudge him if he decides to move to Hawthorn.

Pretty sure the $380k rumour started on BigFooty...

 

[TazHawk15]

Pretty sure the $380k rumour started on BigFooty...

It has been reported in the paper that is all the Swans offered him because they are chock a block in the salary cap.

The Hawks will snare him for 450k a year and the deal was struck months ago.

 

[Tedeski]

Agree. You just need to look at the contract offer he's getting (~380 to stay, 550 to go) to see where he's rated. That's well above average, but far from Elite. I would expect equivalent of 8-12 to get it done.

How much do you think Hawks will pay Tom?

 

[bungwahl]

It has been reported in the paper that is all the Swans offered him because they are chock a block in the salary cap.

The Hawks will snare him for 450k a year and the deal was struck months ago.

Tried hunting around for the reference but the only thing I can find is that Greg Denham said it on SEN. The same guy who told us to "take it to the bank" that Gary Rohan would be at Geelong next year...

 

[Tedeski]

It has been reported in the paper that is all the Swans offered him because they are chock a block in the salary cap.

The Hawks will snare him for 450k a year and the deal was struck months ago.

It's amazing how p'ship success has suddenly given 70% of Hawks supporters a higher IQ giving them the ability to EXACTLY KNOW the ins & outs of their list management.

JOM & Tom Mitchell may very well want to play for Hawthorn next year, but now you have to not only come up with something to give Gold Coast for JOM, but find something to give the Swans for Tom Mitchell. You couldn't find anything for O'Keefe & that went well for you.

We've won a p'ship too in the last few years & that increased my IQ enough to know that the Swans won't deal with your club if the right thing doesn't come back our way! You trade players to improve your own position. You honestly think we will improve your team whilst at the same time weaken ours.

Now how in the heck are you going to find 2 high first round draft picks (let alone 3) to accommodate two players you rate so much that your club is prepared to pay them more than a group of players that are triple p'ship players? Pay cuts my arse!

Watch AFL 360 & have a listen to what Jordan Lewis said about new boys getting more money than loyal servants!

 

[Carl]

It has been reported in the paper that is all the Swans offered him because they are chock a block in the salary cap.

The Hawks will snare him for 450k a year and the deal was struck months ago.

No club is going to lose an A grade player over 70k a year. Minus tax and it's only 40k cash. Smells like BS to me.

 

[Morro]

maybe they are factoring in that they were paying mitchell 500k a year when he was in the twos to keep him away from gws

And that shouldn't be lost in discussions with Mitchell. It showed great loyalty to a kid who couldnt break into the best 22 and he should show the same loyalty in return and reach a fair compromise, unless $ are not the sole driver.

FWIW I see his value as a late 1st rounder.

 

[The 747]

I can't see Langford agreeing to leaving Hawthorn with another little brother set to join the club next year.

His value would probably be a late second to early third rounder.[/QUOTE]

I think that is pretty optimistic.