Strategy Trade and List Management thread 2.(...the waiting for the hammer to fall edition)

[Dogsman16]

I don't like giving something away for nothing.

I don't either.

But I don't like giving up something away for pretty much free that could come back to bite.

Pick 50 is meaningless.

Ask for 36.

 

[immortalmike]

Is this at the dog park in West Footscray? I thought I saw him once and my dog ran up to him overexcited and jumped at him, I had a heart attack thinking she'd bump his knee.

Yes. Essex st. He's there every morning/day.

 

[Unnamed1]

Pick 50 is worthless. Send Koby to the psd

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Not worthless, I can think of some handy players we've picked up around then in recent years...

 

[immortalmike]

Did they share stories of ruptured ACLs?

Ha. Possibly. I'll have to ask my dad.

 

[Struggle]

Not worthless, I can think of some handy players we've picked up around then in recent years...

It's worthless when we're not going to be going that deep in the draft. We don't have the list spots this year

 

[Mezzoculo]

Yes. Essex st. He's there every morning/day.

Right next to the Roosters' homeground at Shorten Reserve, right?

 

[glenashley]

Bombers or blues would snap Koby up on a heartbeat in the psd. Pick 50 for a best 22 (for them) mid!! please.

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[Dogsman16]

Anybody know if we are offering a contract to Koby. Meaning he can't become a DFA.

I was positive we did offer a contract.

 

[Doggy]

Anybody know if we are offering a contract to Koby. Meaning he can't become a DFA.

I was positive we did offer a contract.

Contract was withdrawn

 

[Mofra]

Wow - that Goldstein Tweet from Kirsty Hope (check out the drafts & trading board).
He could well be on the market

 

[Del165892]

Geez it would be nice to be getting players like Koby Stevens for free rather than having all our key backs walking out on us. **** the Saints. I would even hate Koby in that jumper.

 

[immortalmike]

Right next to the Roosters' homeground at Shorten Reserve, right?

That's the one.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Why?

Premiership team and players want out not in??

What am I missing?

Oh that's right we won no need to worry anymore we have the friggin potato sighed for two more years all is well.

It can't all be "in" mate, that's not how it works.

 

[RWnBluey]

Wow - that Goldstein Tweet from Kirsty Hope (check out the drafts & trading board).
He could well be on the market

Holy shit, is that his missus? If legit he gaaaawn.

.... and Norf take one step closer to that cliff >insert evil laugh here<

 

[DexterTan]

Wow - that Goldstein Tweet from Kirsty Hope (check out the drafts & trading board).
He could well be on the market

Can't you just tell us?

 

[StringyDog]

I don't either.

But I don't like giving up something away for pretty much free that could come back to bite.

Pick 50 is meaningless.

Ask for 36.

You realise we are talking about Stevens here no one is giving up pick 36 for Stevens, he has no upside has reached his ceiling and its there for all to see, he is a depth midfielder in any good side nothing more we can still use 50 with other picks to move up draft order, much better than losing him for nothing.

 

[RWnBluey]

Can't you just tell us?

 

[DexterTan]

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I'm bleary eyed from writing a script, can you translate for me.

 

[_Mike_]

Adams... WTF?

Bulldog Marcus Adams eyes WA move, but no trade request


THE WESTERN Bulldogs are confident impressive first-year defender Marcus Adams will play out his contract despite exploring a possible move home to Western Australia.

Adams, 23, is contracted until next year and has recently held informal discussions with the Bulldogs about a return home.

However, the Bulldogs say Adams is happy to play out his contract and won't be going anywhere, denying reports he had sought a trade.

Adams' manager Jason Dover confirmed on Friday there had been no formal trade request.

"We've had some open conversations with the club over the last couple of months over where Marcus was at personally and suggested that if the right opportunity came up, we wouldn't be opposed to it ... (but) we expect he'll be there next year," he told AFL trade radio.

The mature-aged recruit played 11 games in his debut season but missed the premiers' second half of the year with a foot injury.

Fremantle would almost certainly be interested in securing his services if he sought a trade home, given their ongoing struggle to find key defensive stocks.

 

[BatteredBulldog]

Sure

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Surely if your partner / wife drafts a tweet like that then there ARE personal issues right?
What else are "personal" issues?

Two sides to this story and the tweet only provides one of them.

 

[bobby2]

Koby Stevens polled 6 brownlow votes this year. Just for reference, here's a list of players who got a similar number (between 5 and 7):

• Boak
• M. Crouch
• Dahl
• B. Grundy
• Montagna
• Scully
• Shiel
• Ziebell
• Ablett
• Armitage
• J. Gibson
• Greene
• Pigshooter
• Hogan
• J. Kelly
• Motlop
• Stevens
• Tyson
• Tex
• Heeney
• S. Johnson
• LeCras
• Lobb
• T. Lynch (Adelaide)
• Patton
• S. Thompson (Adelaide)
• Wallis
• Watts
• Young
• Zorko

Is there anyone on that list who wouldn't fetch a second round pick at the least if they were 25 and their body wasn't cooked?

Now here's a list of players who were traded primarily for second round picks in 2015:

• Melksham- seriously, wtf
• Hampton
• Bell
• Seedsman
• Howe
• Rosa
• T. Menzel
• Yarran

For a bit of extra context, Jack Redden and Ryan Bastinac were traded for first round picks last year.

Honestly, I don't see how Koby isn't worth 36, let alone not even an upgrade from 40 to 36.

 

[TommyD13]

Koby Stevens polled 6 brownlow votes this year. Just for reference, here's a list of players who got a similar number (between 5 and 7):

• Boak
• M. Crouch
• Dahl
• B. Grundy
• Montagna
• Scully
• Shiel
• Ziebell
• Ablett
• Armitage
• J. Gibson
• Greene
• Pigshooter
• Hogan
• J. Kelly
• Motlop
• Stevens
• Tyson
• Tex
• Heeney
• S. Johnson
• LeCras
• Lobb
• T. Lynch (Adelaide)
• Patton
• S. Thompson (Adelaide)
• Wallis
• Watts
• Young
• Zorko

Is there anyone on that list who wouldn't fetch a second round pick at the least if they were 25 and their body wasn't cooked?

Now here's a list of players who were traded primarily for second round picks in 2015:

• Melksham- seriously, wtf
• Hampton
• Bell
• Seedsman
• Howe
• Rosa
• T. Menzel
• Yarran

For a bit of extra context, Jack Redden and Ryan Bastinac were traded for first round picks last year.

Honestly, I don't see how Koby isn't worth 36, let alone not even an upgrade from 40 to 36.

fair call mate, or even more than fair. I think still though, he should go for something like
Stevens and Pick 40 to saints
Pick 36 and a future 4th Round Pick to us

 

[Ant_]

Adams' manager:

• Have not requested a trade
• Expected to be at the Dogs next year
• If an opportunity arises to move back to WA, he is open to it

Been out all day.. this Adams news is a bit of a shock.

Good to read this though, hopefully it will stop the hysterics I've read these past few pages

 

[Southern 8]

I reckon we may get 36 for Koby. What will we get for Hrovat from Nth or Carlton? Thanks Nathan for looking after us, sad to see you go.

 

[Some Idiot]

Freo don't need points. The relative values assigned via the points system vastly overvalues picks 20+.

Draft pick value is still entirely subjective.