Traded Jaeger O'Meara [traded to Hawthorn for pick 10 and GWS's 2017 2nd rd pick]

[citizen-erased]

How can we be pursuing him so heavily and yet offering massive unders at the same time ?

You sold off 2017 1st and 2 decent picks this year to get pick 10 (heavy price)
10 & 48 for jaeger is unders

What you could have done is offered Adelaide the 2nd rounder for Lyons
Packaged him to gcs with your 2017 1st and had jaeger and kept 36 or whatever it was and invested in another kid in a deep draft

Gcs get their midfielder and 1st Rd pick
You get jaeger

 

[threesixpio]

Culture's pathetic - no one wands to stay and no one wants to go there

 

[Myles]

None of our players want to go to your coch-stain of a club - not our fault

Good I like it, Adult fans having an absolute tantrum over the fact that we won't trade them a player just because the put any shitty offer in our face.

 

[citizen-erased]

Yeah we picked up Burgoyne in that trade because Port wouldn't offer him more than one year because of his knee (similar issue to JOM's knee) 7 years and 3 flags later.... Hear that Jager!

And you wonder why gcs are baulking now ?

 

[The Donners]

Haha cute that you included Goddard in that.

Would you have Bird, Hocking, Howlett, Colyer or Langford ahead of Goddard in the midfield?

Goddard is still one of the best users of the ball and I'm not sure if any midfield in the competition is deep enough to cover Goddard as the 6th or 7th string midfielder.

 

[Furn2]

You sold off 2017 1st and 2 decent picks this year to get pick 10 (heavy price)
10 & 48 for jaeger is unders

What you could have done is offered Adelaide the 2nd rounder for Lyons
Packaged him to gcs with your 2017 1st and had jaeger and kept 36 or whatever it was and invested in another kid in a deep draft

Gcs get their midfielder and 1st Rd pick
You get jaeger

So if were only offering pick 10 we aren't pursuing him that heavily.

 

[Prudster]

But thats the inherrent problem, Hawthorn convinced him to come but don't have the assets to trade for him. We've asked for a pick and a player since the start of the trade period, while you've gone and got the pick we still want a player. Personally I hope we do a 3 way deal with Adelaide so we get Lyons and pick 10 but that may not work out completely.

That's the AFL landscape these days. GC can make it as difficult as they like, but the reality is that as long as players (and especially elite youngsters) want to leave the club, they will often find themselves in a situation where they can't get full value for the player. The successful clubs tend to allow players to leave their club, even when they don't get full value, but they also create an environment where elite players don't want to leave year in year out. GC taking a stand is admirable, but the problem is that once a player decides they want out, the club has already lost the battle, regardless of whether they get a good trade.

GC can talk all they want about wanting to get mature players, but until they can convince players to actually go there, it's nothing but a distraction. They have picks 4, 6, 8, and could have 10, and yet the only players they can convince to come to their club are Hanley and Lyons? Some combination of those picks would be more than enough to satisfy another club in a trade for an elite player, or at least a very high level player, yet GC have been unable to get any of those players to want to come to the club. And that's where GC have to take advantage of the current situation. There is nothing stopping them from poaching players from other clubs, and forcing those clubs to trade players for less than their value.

 

[citizen-erased]

Tony Sheahan is pretty confident Suns and Swans are talking. What the hell is going on.

Someone slap some sense into me.

Please trade pick 14 for him
Eddie combined with the Hawks fans imploding will likely tilt Victoria a little closer south just in time for summer.
Gets too hot here

 

[threesixpio]

Good I like it, Adult fans having an absolute tantrum over the fact that we won't trade them a player just because the put any shitty offer in our face.

No - I'm telling you the way it is - none of our players want to go there. Your club is a disaster

 

[Wil79]

Would you have Bird, Hocking, Howlett, Colyer or Langford ahead of Goddard in the midfield?

Goddard is still one of the best users of the ball and I'm not sure if any midfield in the competition is deep enough to cover Goddard as the 6th or 7th string midfielder.

Look forward to seeing your boys on the dais next year

 

[Deadly Darcy]

He's rehashing twitter talk from Monday, O'Mearas manager has since confirmed he will only go to Hawthorn.

The thing is, he's not a free agent.

So he can say he'll only go to Hawthorn all he wants, but if he's forced to hit the draft he goes where the draft takes him. And that looks dang likely to be back to the GC Suns. He can't enter the draft without agreeing to that term in the same way any young player had to agree to that.

So basically? He's shit out of luck in demanding to get to choose him next club if the great Tony Cochrane decides he's getting f***ed. And Tony seems to think he feels a presence niggling right at the entrance to his dark passage at the moment...

 

[Myles]

That's the AFL landscape these days. GC can make it as difficult as they like, but the reality is that as long as players (and especially elite youngsters) want to leave the club, they will often find themselves in a situation where they can't get full value for the player. The successful clubs tend to allow players to leave their club, even when they don't get full value, but they also create an environment where elite players don't want to leave year in year out. GC taking a stand is admirable, but the problem is that once a player decides they want out, the club has already lost the battle, regardless of whether they get a good trade.

GC can talk all they want about wanting to get mature players, but until they can convince players to actually go there, it's nothing but a distraction. They have picks 4, 6, 8, and could have 10, and yet the only players they can convince to come to their club are Hanley and Lyons? Some combination of those picks would be more than enough to satisfy another club in a trade for an elite player, or at least a very high level player, yet GC have been unable to get any of those players to want to come to the club. And that's where GC have to take advantage of the current situation. There is nothing stopping them from poaching players from other clubs, and forcing those clubs to trade players for less than their value.

Then change the landscape, change the nomination system. It's awful that a club gets hamstrung because player can nominate where they want to go. Nominate a state, there's 2 clubs in every state at least. Let the club with the best offer win.

 

[The Donners]

Look forward to seeing your boys on the dais next year

Well that's a lie and you know it!

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

O'Meara & his management are smart to publicly say right now they only want to go to Hawthorn. Reality is if it gets to 2pm tomorrow and he hasn't been traded, then O'Meara needs to reassess his options. I expect the deal to get done though.

 

[Furn2]

The thing is, he's not a free agent.

So he can say he'll only go to Hawthorn all he wants, but if he's forced to hit the draft he goes where the draft takes him. And that looks dang likely to be back to the GC Suns. He can't enter the draft without agreeing to that term in the same way any young player had to agree to that.

So basically? He's shit out of luck in demanding to get to choose him next club if the great Tony Cochrane decides he's getting f***ed. And Tony seems to think he feels a presence niggling right at the entrance to his dark passage at the moment...

None of that has anything to do with the Swans talk from Monday.

 

[2DMB]

Hawks say oh Suns won't draft him

Learnt nothing

You will effectively give up 8,10,48 for a bloke who doesn't want to be there, with a knee issue you haven't been able to manage for 2 years

No wonder players want to leave, what a shithouse culture. carry on

 

[Procrastinator35]

Man I hope so - go Cochrine go!

It's an internet ruse.

Cheers for Lakey by the way.

Also....Happy to see your lads salute & Beveridge do so well.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

None of that has anything to do with the Swans talk from Monday.

And everything to do with the fact he can't actually dictate he will "only go to hawthorn" if the two clubs can't agree on equity in the trade

 

[Messenger]

So aware me, people.

What does Tony want now?

 

[yeahmate]

Tony Sheahan is pretty confident Suns and Swans are talking. What the hell is going on.

Someone slap some sense into me.

You really think if there was an offer on the table from the Swans (or anyone else) that GC would keep that secret from the Hawks instead of just starting a bidding war? Its not a silent auction..

 

[Prudster]

Then change the landscape, change the nomination system. It's awful that a club gets hamstrung because player can nominate where they want to go. Nominate a state, there's 2 clubs in every state at least. Let the club with the best offer win.

It doesn't matter what the nomination system is for clubs who can't hold onto highly rated talent and can't attract highly rated mature aged players.

Also, it's super easy to say 'change the landscape', but the reality is it's damn near impossible to do it without opening up a bunch of loopholes and other downsides, and that's before you even get to the potential legal risks.

 

[Furn2]

And everything to do with the fact he can't actually dictate he will "only go to hawthorn" if the two clubs can't agree on equity in the trade

he can and has.

 

[Procrastinator35]

And everything to do with the fact he can't actually dictate he will "only go to hawthorn" if the two clubs can't agree on equity in the trade

It's a players market now....Everyone knows that except Cochrane, it seems.

O'Meara won't be going to Sydney.

Expect plenty more Cochrane ruses & hi-jinx before 2pm 2moz.

 

[kirbatron]

Good I like it, Adult fans having an absolute tantrum over the fact that we won't trade them a player just because the put any shitty offer in our face.

Enjoy staying at the bottom of the ladder!

 

[Kenyan]

That's the AFL landscape these days. GC can make it as difficult as they like, but the reality is that as long as players (and especially elite youngsters) want to leave the club, they will often find themselves in a situation where they can't get full value for the player. The successful clubs tend to allow players to leave their club, even when they don't get full value, but they also create an environment where elite players don't want to leave year in year out. GC taking a stand is admirable, but the problem is that once a player decides they want out, the club has already lost the battle, regardless of whether they get a good trade.

GC can talk all they want about wanting to get mature players, but until they can convince players to actually go there, it's nothing but a distraction. They have picks 4, 6, 8, and could have 10, and yet the only players they can convince to come to their club are Hanley and Lyons? Some combination of those picks would be more than enough to satisfy another club in a trade for an elite player, or at least a very high level player, yet GC have been unable to get any of those players to want to come to the club. And that's where GC have to take advantage of the current situation. There is nothing stopping them from poaching players from other clubs, and forcing those clubs to trade players for less than their value.

Theres no point trying to poach players from other clubs if nobody wants to go there. The fact that the Chairman is involved so publicly is a testament to the way the club is run - highly unprofessionally!
None of the other Chairman behave in this manner - Marcus Ashcroft is the List Manager and he has been treated so disrespectfully and unprofessionally in this Omeara deal.