List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & Free Agency Watch Part 2

[SA_Tiger11]

Jarrad Grant

 

[jesterx]

Jarrad Grant

You're in the Richmond board mate, main board is that way - - >

 

[Goldust]

Ellis won't reach his peak for 2-3 more years.

As for trade value I'm basing it all on previous trade periods. Mitchell pick 14, Yarran 19, BHill 23, Vince 23, docherty 33, Yeo 29, Caddy 24 etc...

Are they undervalued yes I agree with you but clubs sell first round picks to the fans and unless you are getting an a grader back it just doesn't sell to fans.

It's why on here the Prestia trade didn't go down well, we over paid based on what the current market dictates despite him probably being a better player than the no. 7 pick. And I'm very much in the camp that we over paid.

Ditto for Elton, Hampson, Batchelor ... all still three years away from peak!

 

[_RT_]

Ditto for Elton, Hampson, Batchelor ... all still three years away from peak!

Just need to play 6 straight games

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

Ditto for Elton, Hampson, Batchelor ... all still three years away from peak!

Big men take longer to develop.

 

[RichoLedio]

Big men take longer to develop.

I'm still waiting to develop into a big man

 

[Potato Sandwich]

It is hard enough to make it in this league as a key forward without trying to do it with mental demons. You will not succeed. You may be able to bludgeon out a career unfulfilled. The most precocious and unbelievable talents have a chance; even then, "health retreats" in Los Angeles are a part of the diet. Josh Schache should remain Brisbane's problem because I don't believe he will make it in this league.

 

[Rich o man]

Should we maybe target Jack Watts?


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Who

 

[Rich o man]

I

I'm still waiting to develop into a big man

unfortunately you have to start big to be a slow developer

 

[Cevap_Roll]

Who

Jack Shitts

 

[Stitch]

Jarrad Grant

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

2 first rounders for Salem

 

[energyquant]

Surely your taking the piss?

No, I'm not. I didn't think much of Salem, but someone on this board suggested him so I thought I'd take a look at the numbers.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/C/Christian_Salem.html
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brandon_Ellis.html

Salem's performance in 2017 (on the averages) is pretty good. He's trending in the right direction. If he gets a good run at it next year, he'll probably match the output of Ellis.

It surprises me that so many people want to draft Naish with (say) pick 15, when we could apparently *easily* trade for a guy like Salem with the same pick. If our goal is to win a premiership, why bother developing an outside runner of our own when we can go and pluck one away from another club?

I don't care if it's Salem. I'm just using him as an example. Brodie Smith looks pretty damn good too. He was drafted at pick 14 and has 142 games under his belt. His numbers are effectively the same as Salem in 2017. Same number of disposals, same balance of inside/outside ball, same balance of kicks and handballs. He makes a couple more inside 50's, one less tackle and Salem is better at earning free kicks.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brodie_Smith.html

My point is: someone needs to get ready to replace Houli. He's been a fine player, but he's coming to the end. If we are serious about winning a flag, we'll go and get a very good, experienced half-back who kicks the ball well. I don't think we have the luxury to draft a player and develop him for 3+ years.

Cheers.

Dave P.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Mods pls ban ppl who keep suggesting microphone head

 

[NZ_Tiger]

No, I'm not. I didn't think much of Salem, but someone on this board suggested him so I thought I'd take a look at the numbers.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/C/Christian_Salem.html
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brandon_Ellis.html

Salem's performance in 2017 (on the averages) is pretty good. He's trending in the right direction. If he gets a good run at it next year, he'll probably match the output of Ellis.

It surprises me that so many people want to draft Naish with (say) pick 15, when we could apparently *easily* trade for a guy like Salem with the same pick. If our goal is to win a premiership, why bother developing an outside runner of our own when we can go and pluck one away from another club?

I don't care if it's Salem. I'm just using him as an example. Brodie Smith looks pretty damn good too. He was drafted at pick 14 and has 142 games under his belt. His numbers are effectively the same as Salem in 2017. Same number of disposals, same balance of inside/outside ball, same balance of kicks and handballs. He makes a couple more inside 50's, one less tackle and Salem is better at earning free kicks.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brodie_Smith.html

My point is: someone needs to get ready to replace Houli. He's been a fine player, but he's coming to the end. If we are serious about winning a flag, we'll go and get a very good, experienced half-back who kicks the ball well. I don't think we have the luxury to draft a player and develop him for 3+ years.

Cheers.

Dave P.

That's why scouts watch people play and don't just recruit off a spread sheet. Salem is light years behind B.Ellis and certainly Brodie Smith. For what it's worth Salem was someone we were very interested in when he was draftable and he would be someone we would look at if Melbourne floated him, but not for two first round picks.

 

[Joey longshadow]

The trouble with Salem is it will turn into a bit of a witch hunt

 

[Bojangles17]

No, I'm not. I didn't think much of Salem, but someone on this board suggested him so I thought I'd take a look at the numbers.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/C/Christian_Salem.html
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brandon_Ellis.html

Salem's performance in 2017 (on the averages) is pretty good. He's trending in the right direction. If he gets a good run at it next year, he'll probably match the output of Ellis.

It surprises me that so many people want to draft Naish with (say) pick 15, when we could apparently *easily* trade for a guy like Salem with the same pick. If our goal is to win a premiership, why bother developing an outside runner of our own when we can go and pluck one away from another club?

I don't care if it's Salem. I'm just using him as an example. Brodie Smith looks pretty damn good too. He was drafted at pick 14 and has 142 games under his belt. His numbers are effectively the same as Salem in 2017. Same number of disposals, same balance of inside/outside ball, same balance of kicks and handballs. He makes a couple more inside 50's, one less tackle and Salem is better at earning free kicks.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brodie_Smith.html

My point is: someone needs to get ready to replace Houli. He's been a fine player, but he's coming to the end. If we are serious about winning a flag, we'll go and get a very good, experienced half-back who kicks the ball well. I don't think we have the luxury to draft a player and develop him for 3+ years.

Cheers.

Dave P.

Why couldn't short replace Houli , has the same attributes

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

salem could be a good houli replacement but no way is he worth 2 first rounders.

 

[_DBF_]

jarrad.

 

[Tigers_fan24]

Why couldn't short replace Houli , has the same attributes

Pretty sure short will be Houlis successor

 

[wegetpumped]

Did you guys watch the VFL last week? If short is the answer as a replacement we might as well not play our next 2 games.

 

[docko911]

Did you guys watch the VFL last week? If short is the answer as a replacement we might as well not play our next 2 games.

Short would actually make a good pressure forward IMO, his dash is very good.

 

[_RT_]

No, I'm not. I didn't think much of Salem, but someone on this board suggested him so I thought I'd take a look at the numbers.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/C/Christian_Salem.html
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brandon_Ellis.html

Salem's performance in 2017 (on the averages) is pretty good. He's trending in the right direction. If he gets a good run at it next year, he'll probably match the output of Ellis.

It surprises me that so many people want to draft Naish with (say) pick 15, when we could apparently *easily* trade for a guy like Salem with the same pick. If our goal is to win a premiership, why bother developing an outside runner of our own when we can go and pluck one away from another club?

I don't care if it's Salem. I'm just using him as an example. Brodie Smith looks pretty damn good too. He was drafted at pick 14 and has 142 games under his belt. His numbers are effectively the same as Salem in 2017. Same number of disposals, same balance of inside/outside ball, same balance of kicks and handballs. He makes a couple more inside 50's, one less tackle and Salem is better at earning free kicks.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brodie_Smith.html

My point is: someone needs to get ready to replace Houli. He's been a fine player, but he's coming to the end. If we are serious about winning a flag, we'll go and get a very good, experienced half-back who kicks the ball well. I don't think we have the luxury to draft a player and develop him for 3+ years.

Cheers.

Dave P.

McIntosh Markov Short Menadue all capable of replacing Houli down the track. No need to chase someone like Salem, especially for 2 first round picks.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Salem 2 first round picks? Lol

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Salem 2 first round picks? Lol

Friday night cant come soon enough