Off-topic ENGLAND ARE SHIT, Smith can GAGF

[Impunity!]

Shaun Marsh is probably the second best bat in the country. The few times he’s been given a go has been tough conditions. He MUST play.

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[richoatthedisco]

Which is a ridiculous waste of the home advantage as both (though Anderson in particular) have been basically useless out here.

It is the only time Anderson will ever be threatening in Australian conditions.

Home ground advantage is one thing, but the future of the game is more important. Day/night Tests are the future.

 

[Plugger35]

I like the concept of D/N tests as it's makes it easier for tv audiences to watch but it makes the game more of a crapshoot as batting under lights is a lot tougher than batting during daylight. A team can end up winning a test because they were just lucky enough to bat more in daylight than the other team.

Shaun Marsh is probably the second best bat in the country. The few times he’s been given a go has been tough conditions. He MUST play.

Geoff Marsh has hacked Vesty's account.

 

[Starburns_]

It is the only time Anderson will ever be threatening in Australian conditions.

Home ground advantage is one thing, but the future of the game is more important. Day/night Tests are the future.

Have to agree on D/N tests, but FFS it's not like The Ashes needed any extra help.

Not sure about the green tops they favour for the D/N tests either, at least playing it at Shield level should hopefully improve the calibre of batsman we produce in future though.

 

[El Dubya]

Have to agree on D/N tests, but FFS it's not like The Ashes needed any extra help.

Not sure about the green tops they favour for the D/N tests either, at least playing it at Shield level should hopefully improve the calibre of batsman we produce in future though.

Lol, it won't, don't be stupid.

 

[David Schwarz]

Andy Maher advocating for Henriques to be called up to the squad this morning

 

[richoatthedisco]

I like the concept of D/N tests as it's makes it easier for tv audiences to watch but it makes the game more of a crapshoot as batting under lights is a lot tougher than batting during daylight. A team can end up winning a test because they were just lucky enough to bat more in daylight than the other team.

There has always been an element of timing luck though. Winning the toss and batting first on a road, or bowling last on a crumbler, or bowling first on a green top, or having to bat late in the day after a hot day in the field. It's just another element.

Have to agree on D/N tests, but FFS it's not like The Ashes needed any extra help.

Not sure about the green tops they favour for the D/N tests either, at least playing it at Shield level should hopefully improve the calibre of batsman we produce in future though.

Not sure the pitches have been deliberately chosen to be green tops. Hopefully they rectify it, but under lights there will always be a bit of dew that spices things up.

Andy Maher advocating for Henriques to be called up to the squad this morning

Maher. Say no more. In fact, say less, like don't quote him. Ever. About anything.

 

[pirate bob]

Not sure the pitches have been deliberately chosen to be green tops. Hopefully they rectify it, but under lights there will always be a bit of dew that spices things up.

Wickets with more grass are favoured with the pink ball to assist with maintaining the integrity of the ball. On the dryer and barer wickets the pink balls don't currently have the durability of the red balls. So the curators have prepared wickets with more grass (and a bit greener) deliberately.

 

[RedVest4]

Give Shaun Marsh ONE MORE CHANCE!

 

[Starburns_]

There has always been an element of timing luck though. Winning the toss and batting first on a road, or bowling last on a crumbler, or bowling first on a green top, or having to bat late in the day after a hot day in the field. It's just another element.

Smith declared a Shield match in the last session with not many on the board purely to get a bowl under lights (and it worked). Du Plessis did similar in the first D/N Test when he declared 8 or 9 down to bowl at the Aus openers for half an hour.

Not sure the pitches have been deliberately chosen to be green tops. Hopefully they rectify it, but under lights there will always be a bit of dew that spices things up.

They are deliberate, they're unsure the balls will last 80 overs with enough visibility to be used at night. It might change in time, but right now they're playing it safe.

 

[Smeg Head]

Smith declared a Shield match in the last session with not many on the board purely to get a bowl under lights (and it worked). Du Plessis did similar in the first D/N Test when he declared 8 or 9 down to bowl at the Aus openers for half an hour.



They are deliberate, they're unsure the balls will last 80 overs with enough visibility to be used at night. It might change in time, but right now they're playing it safe.

Should just get a ****ing can of pink spray paint and touch them up then.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Wickets with more grass are favoured with the pink ball to assist with maintaining the integrity of the ball. On the dryer and barer wickets the pink balls don't currently have the durability of the red balls. So the curators have prepared wickets with more grass (and a bit greener) deliberately.

Yeah, good point.

Smith declared a Shield match in the last session with not many on the board purely to get a bowl under lights (and it worked). Du Plessis did similar in the first D/N Test when he declared 8 or 9 down to bowl at the Aus openers for half an hour.

Didn't work for Faf. There have always been times of the day/match that are more difficult to bat. Traditionally, it'd been the morning or late in the day. Now there is another element.

D/N Tests are here to stay, hopefully they improve the staying ability of the balls.

 

[RedVest4]

Anyone remember who won us the very first day/night test?

You guessed it... Shaun Marsh

 

[El Dubya]

Anyone remember who won us the very first day/night test?

You guessed it... Shaun Marsh

Please. Stop. Friend?

 

[Starburns_]

Didn't work for Faf. There have always been times of the day/match that are more difficult to bat. Traditionally, it'd been the morning or late in the day. Now there is another element.

True, it's been a f***ing brutal period so far though. That said, I think last year's Brisbane test showed what is possible despite the changes, that was a ripper.

D/N Tests are here to stay, hopefully they improve the staying ability of the balls.

Agreed, D/N tests are great, but I hope they don't become the sole format, Boxing Day and New Years don't need them.

Not a fan of the 4 day test argument though, I get that dead 5th days are a financial disaster, but cutting so many overs from a match will probably mean more draws, and you can hardly have 4 session days.

 

[El Dubya]

True, it's been a f***ing brutal period so far though. That said, I think last year's Brisbane test showed what is possible despite the changes, that was a ripper.



Agreed, D/N tests are great, but I hope they don't become the sole format, Boxing Day and New Years don't need them.

Not a fan of the 4 day test argument though, I get that dead 5th days are a financial disaster, but cutting so many overs from a match will probably mean more draws, and you can hardly have 4 session days.

I actually think play should be extended further into the evening for regular tests, most artificial lighting is good enough to get another thirty plus minutes in now. Push harder four a result and potentially pull out the pink ball halfway through the last day and finish at 9 to create serious havoc.

 

[richoatthedisco]

I actually think play should be extended further into the evening for regular tests, most artificial lighting is good enough to get another thirty plus minutes in now. Push harder four a result and potentially pull out the pink ball halfway through the last day and finish at 9 to create serious havoc.

The players fought for no more than an extra half-hour after the scheduled close of play, which means if you lose a day to rain the match is almost certainly condemned to a draw. The 1998 Boxing Day Test had the first day washed out but they made up every minute of play over the next four days, played until 8pm on day five and the result was an amazing Test, even though we lost.

 

[Smeg Head]

True, it's been a f***ing brutal period so far though. That said, I think last year's Brisbane test showed what is possible despite the changes, that was a ripper.



Agreed, D/N tests are great, but I hope they don't become the sole format, Boxing Day and New Years don't need them.

Not a fan of the 4 day test argument though, I get that dead 5th days are a financial disaster, but cutting so many overs from a match will probably mean more draws, and you can hardly have 4 session days.

4 days tests with further over into the evenings might work but yeah I really don't want them to **** with it.

 

[pirate bob]

I actually think play should be extended further into the evening for regular tests, most artificial lighting is good enough to get another thirty plus minutes in now. Push harder four a result and potentially pull out the pink ball halfway through the last day and finish at 9 to create serious havoc.

So, no result in the given 4 days, you're getting chaos session. Theres some merit in that

 

[David Schwarz]

I personally don't get the push for 4 day tests. In my lifetime I've never seen this many matches decided within three days, let alone five.

 

[Starburns_]

I actually think play should be extended further into the evening for regular tests, most artificial lighting is good enough to get another thirty plus minutes in now. Push harder four a result and potentially pull out the pink ball halfway through the last day and finish at 9 to create serious havoc.

Nah, things are already weighted far enough in favour of the side that bats first without a day 5 pink ball session under lights.

Administrators just need to have some faith in the product and not produce so many f***ing roads.

The players fought for no more than an extra half-hour after the scheduled close of play, which means if you lose a day to rain the match is almost certainly condemned to a draw. The 1998 Boxing Day Test had the first day washed out but they made up every minute of play over the next four days, played until 8pm on day five and the result was an amazing Test, even though we lost.

Was that Darren Gough on the last day?

4 days tests with further over into the evenings might work but yeah I really don't want them to **** with it.

It's a massive toll on the bowlers though. Seems far too reactionary.

 

[RedVest4]

This is probably an unpopular opinion... However, I am 100% for the coin toss being scrapped in test cricket and the Away team should get to choose whether to bat or bowl first.

Thoughts?

 

[Smeg Head]

This is probably an unpopular opinion... However, I am 100% for the coin toss being scrapped in test cricket and the Away team should get to choose whether to bat or bowl first.

Thoughts?

Go to bed Vesty.

 

[Starburns_]

This is probably an unpopular opinion... However, I am 100% for the coin toss being scrapped in test cricket and the Away team should get to choose whether to bat or bowl first.

Thoughts?

Seems to have worked so far in County Cricket...

 

[El Dubya]

This is probably an unpopular opinion... However, I am 100% for the coin toss being scrapped in test cricket and the Away team should get to choose whether to bat or bowl first.

Thoughts?

Better suggestion than Stan Darsh getting a recall.