Hypocrisy of The Left - part 2

[The_Snake]

Why don't you start providing answers?

All you're doing is being a smart arse.

I was asking a serious question, can you provide an actual response?

 

[Forward Press]

Try doing a little research, champ. How's the internet down in the basement?

Coming from a basement dweller, that's pretty rich.

Google's down in the basement again, is it?

There's definitely a person living in the basement in this thread all right, and it's not KV.

 

[The_Snake]

How does this support your statement "German politicians embrace the fact that there's a low native birth rate"?
That looks like one politician making a statement that was so outrageous that she received hundreds of death threats, hate messages and insults, and had to apologise.
If those comments were normal, why would there have been such backlash?
It was also back in 2015.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefanie_von_Berg



If it isn't safe now, why do so many migrants still want to move there?

A lot of German politicians would think like her, she was the only one who had the balls to say it. Back in 2015, just when Merkel opened the gates. But still, there's no agenda. At all.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I was asking a serious question, can you provide an actual response?

Sure. Germany has allowed in some migrants to account for the fact that some German groups had a low birth rate.

That is not a Jewish conspiracy to replace or kill whites.

It's a combination of humanitarianism, but is mainly the reinforcement of an active labour force.

 

[The_Snake]

There's definitely a person living in the basement in this thread all right, and it's not KV.

Aw, that's cute

 

[The Delusionist]

A lot of German politicians would think like her, she was the only one who had the balls to say it. Back in 2015, just when Merkel opened the gates. But still, there's no agenda. At all.

This is a baseless satement.

You said "German politicians embrace the fact that there's a low native birth rate". Your evidence was a comment from 2015, that was considered so offensive and wrong that she had to apologise. And received death threats for it.
You have then used that to say that a lot of German politicians would think like her (baseless), that she was the only one who had the balls to say it (baseless).

And you've now used that as evidence of this white genocide leftist agenda.

Not only have you not supported your statements, you've given evidence that shows you're being misleading.


Honestly, I think the reason you're being so vague and not sharing actual links to your information, is because you are aware that you would be viewed as a racist if you were completely open. (whether that's fair or not).

Why don't you just support your position that you're clearly so passionate about, regardless of what labels might be thrown at you?

 

[The_Snake]

Sure. Germany has allowed in some migrants to account for the fact that some German groups had a low birth rate.

That is not a Jewish conspiracy to replace or kill whites.

It's a combination of humanitarianism, but is mainly the reinforcement of an active labour force.

Not some German groups, the entire country had a birth rate well below the replacement rate for over 30 years. No policies were ever introduced to increase it naturally, and there still isn't. Purely relying on third world immigration to increase your population is going to have huge consequences in the future, and we've already started to see this.
Don't forget, Germany didn't just allow in 'some migrants'. It literally opened its borders to anyone.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Not some German groups, the entire country had a birth rate well below the replacement rate for over 30 years. No policies were ever introduced to increase it naturally, and there still isn't. Purely relying on third world immigration to increase your population is going to have huge consequences in the future, and we've already started to see this.
Don't forget, Germany didn't just allow in 'some migrants'. It literally opened its borders to anyone.

Who is behind this agenda?

 

[The_Snake]

This is a baseless satement.

You said "German politicians embrace the fact that there's a low native birth rate". Your evidence was a comment from 2015, that was considered so offensive and wrong that she had to apologise. And received death threats for it.
You have then used that to say that a lot of German politicians would think like her (baseless), that she was the only one who had the balls to say it (baseless).

And you've now used that as evidence of this white genocide leftist agenda.

Not only have you not supported your statements, you've given evidence that shows you're being misleading.


Honestly, I think the reason you're being so vague and not sharing actual links to your information, is because you are aware that you would be viewed as a racist if you were completely open. (whether that's fair or not).

Why don't you just support your position that you're clearly so passionate about, regardless of what labels might be thrown at you?

Call it whatever you like, but you're pretty naive if you believe that no other German politicians would think like her. This is the country that opened its borders to the third world, and it was their politicians who made this call.

 

[The Delusionist]

Call it whatever you like, but you're pretty naive if you believe that no other German politicians would think like her. This is the country that opened its borders to the third world, and it was their politicians who made this call.

You don't need to bash out posts as fast as possible. Take some time to think and make your position clear.

You've just called me naive for not just believing your baseless statement, that you know what German politicians are thinking.

 

[The Passenger]

When people say Europe is turning into a shthole have they actually come over here and seen the place?

I've never spoken with anyone who has come and visited and thought that way. A few first timers find it a bit disappointing which almost always comes back to the cost of travelling through here compared to closer Asian countries.

Can't find the post now but whoever that was rattling off a bunch of places and saying he'd never want to be there at night... The chances of him actually being in those places are about 1 in a million. And if he did well... suck shit cause you just spent $5K+ to come to Europe and had a shit time

I can't speak for those places mentioned but there's only one time I've felt particularly vulnerable in Europe and that was wandering through Brussels about 10 years ago when I found my way into a council estate.

Everything else has been on par with what I've experienced in Australia. 99% perfectly safe, 0.999999% little bit dodgy, 0.000001% really dodgy.

It's quite cute that many conservatives think Europe was this perfectly safe place a decade ago and that bad things have only started happening in the last two years. But then it's fit in with the world view of those who needs one of Murdoch's fabulous journalists to think for them.

 

[Bradesmaen]

German politicians embrace the fact that there's a low native birth rate, one that's well below the replacement rate needed to sustain a population. Meanwhile, Merkel opened the borders to an unlimited amount of migrants from countries with high birth rates, so in a generation's time the demographics of Germany will be changed forever and many German towns will see native born Germans as a minorities group. This replacing of the native population is seen as a form of 'genocide', even if it's not the deliberate killing of one particular ethnic group. There's more than one definition for genocide.

Do a genealogy test, will laugh if it comes back with a huge mix including middle Eastern. White genocide!!1!! You crack me up Bennett.

 

[strung_out7]

Currently in Andorra and have been to 30 European countries. So no.

Snowing at the moment?

 

[Bradesmaen]

Snowing at the moment?

Nope. A few days ago and after I leave, so the slopes are a bit icey

 

[The Passenger]

Well what do you know... Geelong Crazy was right. The private sector will look after those in need. These blokes came together and donated two million pounds for charity. Amazing stuff. You just gotta ignore the pussy grabbing that went along with it.

https://www.ft.com/content/075d679e-0033-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5

There's going to be some rich campaigners squirming in their seat at the family dinner table this week.

Although with the amount of guys who have claimed they "left early" it sounds like the event was empty by 9.30pm. LOL

 

[The_Snake]

Captain Cook statue vandalised in Melbourne, diversity bollards in all high pedestrian populated locations, airport-like security in the Sydney CBD etc. Bending over to the left's PC fetish has its consequences. Happy Australia Day.

 

[Jello_B]

I'm not across German politics, but I find it difficult to believe they would boast about low birth rates in terms of population growth.

And again: Why is being a native born German important? How many generations must your family go back, for you to be considered native born?

I still can't see how anyone could believe it's a white genocide, and that it's an agenda of "the left".


I also find this difficult to believe. Are you embellishing?

You are kind of answering your own question here. Some people believe that native culture is important, others don’t. You don’t and they do, hence you will never agree. They are trying to protect something that is unimportant to you.

 

[The Delusionist]

Well what do you know... Geelong Crazy was right. The private sector will look after those in need. These blokes came together and donated two million pounds for charity. Amazing stuff. You just gotta ignore the pussy grabbing that went along with it.

https://www.ft.com/content/075d679e-0033-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5

There's going to be some rich campaigners squirming in their seat at the family dinner table this week.

Although with the amount of guys who have claimed they "left early" it sounds like the event was empty by 9.30pm. LOL

I think if a lot of people were honest, they would admit they don't really see a problem with this.
But instead they will pretend to look for semantics or oddities to try and defend it. Maybe they will try to say the ends justify the means, because they raised so much money for charity.

 

[The Delusionist]

You are kind of answering your own question here. Some people believe that native culture is important, others don’t. You don’t and they do, hence you will never agree. They are trying to protect something that is unimportant to you.

I do enjoy your posts, Jello_B. But I'm a bit confused with this one.

I'm not saying native culture isn't important. I think it's very important and I'm sad that so much of it is being lost forever, around the world.

The_Snake was talking about a 'white genocide' as an agenda of 'the left'.
And his point was that native born Germans are becoming a minority.
I tried to get some clarity as to what native born meant. You must be born in Germany to be a native born? Or both of your parents must be born in Germany? Or both of your parents and both of their parents?

So I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

 

[Jello_B]

I do enjoy your posts, Jello_B. But I'm a bit confused with this one.

I'm not saying native culture isn't important. I think it's very important and I'm sad that so much of it is being lost forever, around the world.

The_Snake was talking about a 'white genocide' as an agenda of 'the left'.
And his point was that native born Germans are becoming a minority.
I tried to get some clarity as to what native born meant. You must be born in Germany to be a native born? Or both of your parents must be born in Germany? Or both of your parents and both of their parents?

So I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

I love you too mate, I’m on the G&T now so I’m not going to be able to respond in any meaningful way for another 24 hours. Have a fantastic day.

 

[The Delusionist]

I love you too mate, I’m on the G&T now so I’m not going to be able to respond in any meaningful way for another 24 hours. Have a fantastic day.

Even intoxicated I believe you'd be able to easily keep up with me.
Happy Australia day.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I do enjoy your posts, Jello_B. But I'm a bit confused with this one.

I'm not saying native culture isn't important. I think it's very important and I'm sad that so much of it is being lost forever, around the world.

The_Snake was talking about a 'white genocide' as an agenda of 'the left'.
And his point was that native born Germans are becoming a minority.
I tried to get some clarity as to what native born meant. You must be born in Germany to be a native born? Or both of your parents must be born in Germany? Or both of your parents and both of their parents?

So I'm not really sure what you're talking about.

Interesting question you have there, the validity of nativity - for example I'm a 2nd gen Australian i:e I have 1 parent born in Australia and 1 born overseas. How valid does that make me?

What I believe is more important is the bolded, native culture I gather you mean the identity of the nation itself i:e Germany's is about drinking beer; being super efficient in what they do, wear lederhosen, eat christmas schtollen and the like. That may sound sterotypical but they are examples of what you could identify as being a German, right?

So whoever makes their way there with a different cultural identity for example a staunch muslim would have a difficult and resistful time in assimilating or for want of a better term "joining in with the locals". And I think that's where the issue lies - it's not the ethnicity that's an issue it's mixture of cultures that cause the issue.

You're going to have a real hard time convincing a devout muslim to embrace the culture of westernised country such as Germany, however if they don't and oppose the cultures of the new land they've adopted well then there's a problem isn't there. To me that is excluding yourself and being part of the problem

I believe this is the crux of so called "right wing bigots" fear of losing their identity, for example in Australia there's been a push to ban christmas carols at schools to appease a minority. On face value that seems unfair to the majority and it is.

It seems that if you're a native or not but "do as the romans do when in Rome" and request that everyone else in the land "join in" you're are deemed a racist or bigot even though that is simply not true for obvious reasons.

 

[The Delusionist]

Interesting question you have there, the validity of nativity - for example I'm a 2nd gen Australian i:e I have 1 parent born in Australia and 1 born overseas. How valid does that make me?

What I believe is more important is the bolded, native culture I gather you mean the identity of the nation itself i:e Germany's is about drinking beer; being super efficient in what they do, wear lederhosen, eat christmas schtollen and the like. That may sound sterotypical but they are examples of what you could identify as being a German, right?

So whoever makes their way there with a different cultural identity for example a staunch muslim would have a difficult and resistful time in assimilating or for want of a better term "joining in with the locals". And I think that's where the issue lies - it's not the ethnicity that's an issue it's mixture of cultures that cause the issue.

You're going to have a real hard time convincing a devout muslim to embrace the culture of westernised country such as Germany, however if they don't and oppose the cultures of the new land they've adopted well then there's a problem isn't there. To me that is excluding yourself and being part of the problem

I believe this is the crux of so called "right wing bigots" fear of losing their identity, for example in Australia there's been a push to ban christmas carols at schools to appease a minority. On face value that seems unfair to the majority and it is.

It seems that if you're a native or not but "do as the romans do when in Rome" and request that everyone else in the land "join in" you're are deemed a racist or bigot even though that is simply not true for obvious reasons.

From the limited information, I'd consider you Australian.
Do you consider yourself Australian?
Do you feel you know and abide by every Australian "cultural identity"?

What is native culture and how long does it need to be known of and practised, for it to be considered native culture? When did Christmas carols become a part of our native culture?

Is the native culture of Berlin identical to Munich?
Does Germany have an all encompassing native culture that every 5th generation German adheres to religiously?

On top of that, I've noticed a very big difference in the 'integration' of parents who moved to Australia compared to their children who grew up in Australia.

 

[Jello_B]

Even intoxicated I believe you'd be able to easily keep up with me.
Happy Australia day.

Haha maybe you underestimate yourself friend. But I have been speaking to someone tonight from a position of knowledge so looking forward to sharing.

 

[Carringbush2010]

From the limited information, I'd consider you Australian.
Do you consider yourself Australian?
Do you feel you know and abide by every Australian "cultural identity"?

What is native culture and how long does it need to be known of and practised, for it to be considered native culture? When did Christmas carols become a part of our native culture?

Is the native culture of Berlin identical to Munich?
Does Germany have an all encompassing native culture that every 5th generation German adheres to religiously?

On top of that, I've noticed a very big difference in the 'integration' of parents who moved to Australia compared to their children who grew up in Australia.

Of course I consider myself Australian, I have the flag tattooed on my left pec. Others may see me differently because I'm not born of two Australians or moreso I am not of any indigenous descent as I'm of Irish descent

Cultural identity? That will obviously have different perceptions; for me? I have a V8 holden ute, an LJ Torana, I work FIFO, have played and love spectating Australian Football, am partial to a meat pie as well as cooking on the bbq and having a beer or dozen.

To me that is quintessential Australian; however others would disagree and some would want that to change. Some may Identify "Australian" as something else; what that is/are I don't know and some may see me as ignorant for that but that is not by design it's just how I identify