Scape Goat Alleged SPP incident/broken curfew + malicious and exploitative reporting by Channel 7 news

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Is she the one that made the accusation????

If she was the media would have run with it hard. The legs on the woman interviewed looked thicker.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Just asking if she made the accusation???? If so, it looks very plausible what happened.

You have nothing of value to add but scurrilous innuendo which we have had enough of. Begone.

 

[PAFC66]

Amusing that while she tried to hang onto her inheritance by advancing the cause of $2 wages as the future of her workplace, her own kids seemed more than a little impatient to inherit the business themselves. Maybe they weren't looking forward to working for Mum, I don't know.



If so he wouldn't be the first high profile financially independent employee to take an employer to court.

To do so for the sake of your "side business" in sport and for the sake of taking a stand in it's escalating conflict with your current employer would definitely be a gutsy "leaving the plantation" move.

wouldn't we be taking a specific reporter to court?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Caro knows about sport. She doesn't know about the law.

No she knows about spolitics - sports politics. She knows very little about what happens on the field.

 

[1954]

Not a lot of support from Caro on FC tonight. Discussion was mostly around why would the AFL be trying to negotiate with us, just announce the decision.

Yeah the fat bloke just said the AFL should announce their decision, apparently whether SPP is innocent or not has SFA to do with it, how do these campaigners get paid to talk about football?

 

[yepits2020]

AFL probably needs SPPs agreement to the report to avoid being sued or further action taken. Channel 7 would hope SPP agrees to any wording around their allegations to avoid being sued. No natural justice from the AFL here and have dug themselves in a hole. I hope SPP holds his ground and accordingly sues.

 

[zakus]

Carol said it.

I have gone backwards and forwards to post the dot points above I don't remember that comment. Could be wrong but ain't listening again.

 

[WHOME]

So if we are prepared to accept 3 weeks but want the wording changed to remove any reference to sexual misconduct, what did he actually do to deserve 3 weeks? Does he receive a reduction for time already served or have I been watching too much crime channel?

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[RussellEbertHandball]

AFL probably needs SPPs agreement to the report to avoid being sued or further action taken. Channel 7 would hope SPP agrees to any wording around their allegations to avoid being sued. No natural justice from the AFL here and have dug themselves in a hole. I hope SPP holds his ground and accordingly sues.

We need SPP's manager, foster parents and the club to strongly advise him because it's a tough thing to expect a 20 year old to fight the AFL head on. Plus get a couple of good QC's to talk to him and explain to him his options and how they are going to defend him.

If this ends up in court - this will be a denial of natural justice case - and if he was to win this would completely **** over the AFL's veneer of a just organisation. Then they just make sure the MRO gives him a 2 week penalty ever 4 or 5 games.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

 

[CharlieKelly]

I think she's reasonably hot. Is that okay?

Sure, whatever.

 

[jakey]

Nice to see us windmilling the Koch on this one.

Really though, we need root and branch reform of the governance of the game. There is no natural justice. Is there anything in the vein of public scandal that AFL hasn't mishandled in recent years?

We need an independent body at arm's length from the AFL to handle basically anything beyond the purely administrative.

They're much too caught up in the optics and commercial impact of everything to work in a manner which is best for the game. Let them focus on turning a buck from the show.

Rules of the game, tribunal, sanctions, redistribution, trade rules, fixturing and long term strategy should all be taken out of their hands.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

"Port didn't read the tea leaves"...code for get ready the AFL is going to do a number on you?

 

[Magus]

So if we are prepared to accept 3 weeks but want the wording changed to remove any reference to sexual misconduct, what did he actually do to deserve 3 weeks? Does he receive a reduction for time already served or have I been watching too much crime channel?

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They'll do what they always do when they want to penalize someone but not use any specific language - they'll use the word "disrepute."

 

[RossFC]

Looks like this will drag out and SPP will miss another week. Expect him to be playing SANFL in 2 weeks.

 

[Magus]

Looks like this will drag out and SPP will miss another week. Expect him to be playing SANFL in 2 weeks.

The longer this goes on, the more of a case Sam has against those who sought to **** him over.

 

[RossFC]

The longer this goes on, the more of a case Sam has against those who sought to **** him over.

Either way this has screwed him around a fair bit.

His last game was in the AFL vs Brisbane 7th of April.

Next SANFL game after the one on Wednesday is Norwood 4th of May.

Pretty much will get a month out. AFL gets what they want.

 

[rogerjames]

Nice to see us windmilling the Koch on this one.

Really though, we need root and branch reform of the governance of the game. There is no natural justice. Is there anything in the vein of public scandal that AFL hasn't mishandled in recent years?

We need an independent body at arm's length from the AFL to handle basically anything beyond the purely administrative.

They're much too caught up in the optics and commercial impact of everything to work in a manner which is best for the game. Let them focus on turning a buck from the show.

Rules of the game, tribunal, sanctions, redistribution, trade rules, fixturing and long term strategy should all be taken out of their hands.

Spot on. They have become way to powerful and it will drive me from the game. So sick of the continual conflicts of interest.

 

[rogerjames]

And then in 2017, he did it again, once again, silence from the AFL

Afl=corruption

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Either way this has screwed him around a fair bit.

His last game was in the AFL vs Brisbane 7th of April.

Next SANFL game after the one on Wednesday is Norwood 4th of May.

Pretty much will get a month out. AFL gets what they want.

What a bizarre way to get the 2nd year blues.

 

[portly]

Don't think his role as president of PAFC and employee of 7 should interfere with one another

Eddie Everywhere never worried about crossing boundaries.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

If this had of been reported to the cops it would have taken 6 months to get processed - innocent till proven guilty - and the AFL couldnt have imposed any penalty until a court case gave a decision. What a ****ing bizzario world we live in that its not even serious enough to be reported, yet if it was he would have likely only got a one week club suspension for being pissed after a curfew. The world is going mad with nanny state rules and regulations.

 

[FPPF]

If this had of been reported to the cops it would have taken 6 months to get processed - innocent till proven guilty - and the AFL couldnt have imposed any penalty until a court case gave a decision. What a ******* bizzario world we live in that its not even serious enough to be reported, yet if it was he would have likely only got a one week club suspension for being pissed after a curfew. The world is going mad with nanny state rules and regulations.

I wonder if the club or Sam have a strong enough case to take this the international Court of Arbitration for Sport?

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Because all its going to do is reinforce the stereotypes view she already has of port fans

Why would anybody give a shit what a piece of scum like that thinks? She should be locked up with the rest of her team.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Also Caro and Footy Classified were good there I thought.

They are correct, there shouldn't be any negotiation. He is either guilty and there is evidence to come to that decision, or he isn't/there is no evidence. Either charge him, or charge 7.

The only part they got completely wrong was the "vision". Wtf is going on there... that's clearly not the girl in question, my understanding was that it's his mate's gf and they are mucking around after a night out.

Honestly I wish Port would just release their vision of the whole night which Kochie claims to have. Will never happen of course.