List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2018/2019 - Part 2!

[soreplums]

Four way trade :

Pies gain : McGovern
Pies lose : Moore

Sydney gain : Moore
Sydney lose : Lloyd

Adelaide gain : Pick 3
Adelaide lose : McGovern

Gcs gain : Lloyd
Gcs lose : pick 3


Definitely swaps of picks between GCS & Adelaide, but that’s the crux of it.

Would prefer pick 3 over McGovern. Would then look to package 3 for pick 1

 

[si tacuisses]

Aaron Francis contract status? He's a beauty.

We should have bought last year if we wanted him. Too expensive now.

 

[soreplums]

With Dunne, Shaz our for most of the year, it worries me a bit that Moore and Langdon (plus Murray) could be gone as well. Those changes destabilise our back 6.

Goldsack may have just earned himself a new contract

 

[left at home]

With Dunne, Shaz our for most of the year, it worries me a bit that Moore and Langdon (plus Murray) could be gone as well. Those changes destabilise our back 6.

Goldsack may have just earned himself a new contract

Why is Langdon gone.

 

[soreplums]

Why is Langdon gone.

I think he’ll stay, but many here are moving him on. Still, it’s surprising that he hasn’t re-signed yet. Manager must think he is worth more given the LTI to Shaz and Dunne

 

[BEEG]

Don’t think he’d leave Essendon after they’ve persisted with him for so long.

Goes anywhere you would think it's back to SA didn't he try to get back home last year?

 

[left at home]

I think he’ll stay, but many here are moving him on. Still, it’s surprising that he hasn’t re-signed yet. Manager must think he is worth more given the LTI to Shaz and Dunne

Manager could be right

 

[wicksy]

The club went hard to get Murray meaning we have a need for a line breaking HB, who's available?

Crisp stood up and Quaynor will come in.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Crisp stood up and Quaynor will come in.

Super, we'll have the youngest backline of all time then.

 

[soreplums]

Manager could be right

I’d be doing the same for my client.

 

[Matt_352]

Who are the best rebounding defenders on the comp that are gettable? Jake Lloyd would be amazing.

 

[Mongo Ming]

I think he’ll stay, but many here are moving him on. Still, it’s surprising that he hasn’t re-signed yet. Manager must think he is worth more given the LTI to Shaz and Dunne

Langers-o going nowhere-o.

Somehow I think our list management team are smart enough not to consult Bigfooty for player retention advice.

 

[DaicosianMarvels]

All for the Harbrow pick up.

Would be even more interested if his disposal was better but I think he makes us better.

 

[DaicosianMarvels]

What we need is a key defender at all costs and one that at least has 100+ games of experience.

Would love for Hine to get a peak at Stephen Wells draft list and get a gun key back from somewhere around the country. Don't think there has been or well be anyone better than him at finding young talent.

I know May fits that hole but I think he is incredibly overrated and lacks discipline on the field. Don't think he will be worth it for what the asking price will be.

 

[Matt_352]

Harbrow is an unrestricted free agent looking for a flag chance at 30, costs nothing til Quaynor settles

Yes please

 

[ClaytonM]

Yes please

Second that.

 

[Apex36]

Goes anywhere you would think it's back to SA didn't he try to get back home last year?

Yeah, but he’s apparently in a much better head space now and keen to repay the faith.

 

[Shade]

Yes to Harbrow.

good suggestion

 

[Thefly38]

Maybe we should be looking at Harbrow or Dollhouse

 

[lenny20]

Who says no first?

Collingwood get: Pick 1

GWS get: Darcy Moore, Jamie Elliott, Tom Langdon and Carlton 2019 second round pick.

Carlton get: Dylan Shiel, Will Setterfield.
*Alex Fasolo (as free agent).

*GWS it's a trade that completes their best 22 three automatic additions in their positions of greatest need. Moore would be an ideal ruck solution, allowing him to play arguably what would be his best position, while also having the flexibility to play KPP to a high standard. Elliott helps a weak front half lacking a quality small and he can be a 35+ goal, 100+ mark a year forward per 20 games if he can get healthy. Langdon adds quality to an ageing backline that also lacks quality. They also take the pick to further their flexibility of assets and they're all young enough to allow for an extended premiership run. Losing Shiel and Setterfield would barely dint their midfield with all the quality already there and developing and able to take up greater midfield responsibility + they have Thomas Green developing (something like Patrick Cripps and a genuine number one pick change for 2019) - he looks like the best prospect to come through any of the Academies yet, already looking like the best player in the NEAFL as an underager.

*Carlton get a significant midfield upgrade with Shiel and Setterfield ideal compliments for Cripps and Matthew Kennedy who can come good. Their front half also gets an upgrade with Fasolo who slots straight into their best 22 and can be a 30 goal a year forward. A trade that makes Carlton more competitive more quickly and gives them more good players inside their best 22 which has been other than their midfield their other major issue.

*Collingwood get Lukosius. And don't have a lot to cry about with Moore, Elliott and Fasolo playing a combined 8 senior games this year and while Langdon has been terrific he is replaceable. Even if Sam Murray who would be my replacement gets done with the ASADA business, I'd be looking to swing James Aish to half-back anyway where I feel he would look most at home with his intercept marking - with strong hands overhead and impressive ability to read the ball in flight his greatest strengths.

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Pretty easy from there for Collingwood then to snag the likes of Jarryd Roughead for a late pick and Scott Thompson among other cheap veterans who along with mature agers and players through the draft can pretty easily with correct talent ID fill out the rest of the list and see things improve.

In a thread where 90% of the posters overrate their own, you've gone strongly in the other direction, Knight!

If either of Moore or Elliott stay fit, then you'd be looking at a top ten pick for either, individually. Will they stay fit? No idea. But at the current point in time, they carry the least currency they ever have in their careers. You couldn't sell lower than right now. It's bad business.

Add in Tom Langdon, who has been immense for us in the back half of this year, and we're down three best 22 players (best 15 players really, all with potential to be best 10).

All for a guy who, while looking amazing, isn't a shoe in to be elite. Bizarrely enough, you've gotta go all the way back to Roughead in 2003 to find a top 3 KPP who actually turned out good. Since then, we've had Tom Boyd, McCartin, Weitering, Schache, Plowman, Patton, Day, Watts, Kreuzer, Gumbleton, Hansen. All top 3 picks. All with big wraps. All incredibly underwhelming.

I get that Lukosius is meant to be a next level talent... but to be honest, I see a lot of young Jack Watts in how he plays. I'm just not sure selling three good-to-very-good-to-potentially-elite players for an unproven talent is good business.

 

[partypie]

All for the Harbrow pick up.

Would be even more interested if his disposal was better but I think he makes us better.

I suspect being in a better team might improve his disposal numbers - I seem to recall it was pretty good last year and maybe the year before.

 

[Go Pies!!!!!]

With Dunne, Shaz our for most of the year, it worries me a bit that Moore and Langdon (plus Murray) could be gone as well. Those changes destabilise our back 6.

Goldsack may have just earned himself a new contract

Dunn will be ready for Rnd 1 next year he did is knee in Round 7 it will be nearly 10 months since his surgery when round 1 kicks off next year

 

[BigPie23]

Dunn was hurt round 17?

Being a huge man would make the timing for a come back even longer.

Dont think we will see him next year unfortunately.

 

[BEEG]

Harbrow would be a nice get considering Murray won't be playing next year.

 

[Jasper84]

What we need is a key defender at all costs and one that at least has 100+ games of experience.

Would love for Hine to get a peak at Stephen Wells draft list and get a gun key back from somewhere around the country. Don't think there has been or well be anyone better than him at finding young talent.

I know May fits that hole but I think he is incredibly overrated and lacks discipline on the field. Don't think he will be worth it for what the asking price will be.

So we should get a KPD at all costs but not if they cost too much?