Bluemour Discussion Thread XIV - Facts Not Welcome

[Pablito]

Says who exactly?

Gold Coast Sun are far FAR more likely to trade down, not trade up.

Port has pick 6 & 10. Trade Winguard to Dogs and maybe get 7.

Gold Coast give 2 & 3 for 6, 7 & 10.
Gold Coast trade May to Melbourne for pick 5 via Hogan to Freo trade.

So Gold Coast turn 2 & 3 & May into 5, 6, 7 & 10.
Or Gold Coast turn 2 & 3 & May into 1 & 5.

Sorry, I can't see Gold Coast wanting to deal with us just for Sam Walsh. What if in 2 years Walsh gets homesick?

His source which he rightly won't disclose.

Just because you can't see it happening doesn't mean it won't.

 

[Pater44]

2018 1st + 2019 1st to GCS
GCS 2018 2nd & 3rd to Carlton
2nd to Adelaide for their 8 and 13 and change.

GCS get Walsh
Adelaide get Lukosious
Carlton get Smith at 3, and also have another 2 first rounders this year

I love this thought... then maybe we could offer GWS 8 for Shiel... that deal isn’t done yet and I would be surprised if he couldn’t be persuaded to change his mind AGAIN...


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[passmark]

Fagan on SEN sounded genuinely hurt about the Beams news.

To me it sounds like the Pies may be exploiting a person in a vulnerable state.

 

[dlb99]

Adelaide need us they could be desperate. Don't think the suns give 2 and 3 for 6 7 and 10.

Suns gave Freo pick 2 for Weller.

2 & 3 into 6, 7, 10 (and some steak knives swaps) makes sense. Lots of elite talent in this draft.

Gold Coast could end up with 4 top 10 picks.

 

[Arr0w]

Says who exactly?

Gold Coast Sun are far FAR more likely to trade down, not trade up.

Port has pick 6 & 10. Trade Winguard to Dogs and maybe get 7.

Gold Coast give 2 & 3 for 6, 7 & 10.
Gold Coast trade May to Melbourne for pick 5 via Hogan to Freo trade.

So Gold Coast turn 2 & 3 & May into 5, 6, 7 & 10.
Or Gold Coast turn 2 & 3 & May into 1 & 5.

Sorry, I can't see Gold Coast wanting to deal with us just for Sam Walsh. What if in 2 years Walsh gets homesick?

Anyone they draft could get homesick

 

[Psychochook]

Agree Harks

This fascination with adding the best player in the league is staggering.

Bottom 6 players win flags, not one elite player

There's always later draft gems.

If ever there was a recruiting team to find them, we've got it.

I'm buckling in, this ride could take off.

 

[Faz 2000]

You're not on your own with that thought. Some people seem to want to move it on for pennies in the $.

The only reason I could see for moving next year's first would be to take a double or even triple dip in this year's top 10. It'd be absolutely fill the boots with young talent, and that's it, with next year (and probably beyond) all about Free Agents. Ie. Buying in the help.

But I think that'd be at odds with what the club has stated the intent is. First pick next year will be critical in any discussions with big trade targets.

 

[The Grover]

Apparently Crows talking to Brisbane about Pick 5.

Trade period is crazy this year.

 

[dlb99]

His source which he rightly won't disclose.

Just because you can't see it happening doesn't mean it won't.

Gold Coast may want Sam Walsh (might).
What if Sam Walsh doesn't like the Gold Coast (in two years).
Turn 2 picks into one and then see that one walk away in a couple years.

Gold Coast dealing with Adelaide and Port Adelaide via a dutch auction makes sense.

 

[Bobmonkey]

Crows are looking to trade up in the draft with Brisbane's picks.

 

[jimsta10]

Maybe someone in the know can confirm.

 

[Pablito]

Gold Coast may want Sam Walsh (might).
What if Sam Walsh doesn't like the Gold Coast (in two years).
Turn 2 picks into one and then see that one walk away in a couple years.

Gold Coast dealing with Adelaide and Port Adelaide via a dutch auction makes sense.

You could say that about any player in the draft this year who isn't from qld.

I want to take Walsh also btw.

 

[chunkylover53]

I don't think we are in with a shot for Kelly regardless.

Why not? If North miss the 8 again and we can offer equal or more cash then I dare say we are far more attractive. I actually wouldn't mind it if we went all guns blazing for him now. We have cash and currency to burn this year.

 

[Dadda Dave]

So what would we likely accept? 2 of their first rounders?

We need to be in the top 3 to get Smith and onother pick in the top 10 and a desent player just for the giggles ..

 

[dlb99]

Apparently Crows talking to Brisbane about Pick 5.

Trade period is crazy this year.

Except Brizzy needs that pick for Freo B&F winner Lochie Neale.
Freo trades to Melbourne for Hogan.
Melbourne trades to to Gold Coast for May.

If the Bears trade it to Adelaide a whole stack of cards falls down. It would be chaos

 

[The Grover]

Crows are looking to trade up in the draft with Brisbane's picks.

Crows now meeting with Saints Pick 4 . lol

 

[dlb99]

Anyone they draft could get homesick

4 homesick(s) is much less likely to happen than 2.

Gold Coast should aim to get more picks not less, that's all I'm saying.

 

[bigdog43]

Was told this morning and I think it has been mentioned here, but Gold Coast are certainly looking at bringing in pairs of players. This is why Miles and Ellis came together and why they would take Lukoscous and Rozee/ Rankine. Trading up for 1 also makes sense given the hype around Walsh's character.

 

[HBF]

Shiel is the 4th best GWS midfielder.
SOS was correct to not include it for Shiel.

So pleased SOS held firm on #1. Happy bloody days indeed.

 

[ferrisb]

Smith is probably ahead of Walsh in the endurance stakes and has speed

Walsh 2nd in yo-yo with 22.1. Smith not in top 10 (< 21.4)
Walsh 3rd in 2km with 6:07. Smith not in top 10 (>6:15)

 

[TerryWallet]

Admitedly the manouvering mightn't be over with yet, but with the SA clubs targeting Picks 5 and 6, does this mean that GC are going the Sandringham boys instead of the SA boys?

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Fagan on SEN sounded genuinely hurt about the Beams news.

To me it sounds like the Pies may be exploiting a person in a vulnerable state.

Investigation....

 

[dlb99]

Crows now meeting with Saints Pick 4 . lol

Luko and Rankine likely gone by 4.

Port and Crows need to be getting into 2 & 3 spots.

 

[Arr0w]

Walsh 2nd in yo-yo with 22.1. Smith not in top 10 (< 21.4)
Walsh 3rd in 2km with 6:07. Smith not in top 10 (>6:15)

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Smith didn't participate, due to an ankle injury

 

[mochacinolatte]

Maybe someone in the know can confirm.

EP and Barass please help us, we are sorry !