Preview Geelong v Melbourne Sat 30 March at GMHBA

[Landgraft]

You’re very likely to win on the weekend; however, we are the antithesis of an outside team.

No need to talk yourselves down after one game, still plenty of scope to improve.

I wouldn't worry about what ol' mate says, he's just setting up narratives so that he has things to then criticise the club in relation to.

 

[Ratcat]

You’re very likely to win on the weekend; however, we are the antithesis of an outside team.

He wouldn't pay attention but yeah l know it'll be a hard game.

 

[bulletproof]

You’re very likely to win on the weekend; however, we are the antithesis of an outside team.

I would agree with this (the second part), like the Swans of old, I don't think the Geelong ground holds any fear for these really strong contested ball teams. The Demons killed us in this area down there last year, until a freakish last quarter and then we all saw what happened in close in the MCG final. Melbourne's issues seem to be more defending running teams on the outside. We will be looking for big games from Kelly, Duncan etc.

 

[cynical]

You’re very likely to win on the weekend; however, we are the antithesis of an outside team.

what?

you have good ball movement, skills and young inside mids

not as outside as the bombers but compared to us you are very outside

we are as inside as it gets, big and old inside mids, poor ball movement, chip sideways or bomb it down the line

We will win cos Melbourne will turn it over too much and our bigger backs will mop up. Agility, skills and pace also have less of an impact on a small narrow ground.

 

[Max Milburn]

what?

you have good ball movement, skills and young inside mids

not as outside as the bombers but compared to us you are very outside

we are as inside as it gets, big and old inside mids, poor ball movement, chip sideways or bomb it down the line

We will win cos Melbourne will turn it over too much and our bigger backs will mop up. Agility, skills and pace also have less of an impact on a small narrow ground.

So, let's sum this up:
Melbourne, who has good ball movement, skills, agility and pace, will lose by 5 goals to a team with big, old mids with poor ball movement who chip sideways or bomb it down the line.

 

[romeohwho]

what?

you have good ball movement, skills and young inside mids

not as outside as the bombers but compared to us you are very outside

we are as inside as it gets, big and old inside mids, poor ball movement, chip sideways or bomb it down the line

We will win cos Melbourne will turn it over too much and our bigger backs will mop up. Agility, skills and pace also have less of an impact on a small narrow ground.

Che? Were you watching us against the pies?

 

[goyoucatters]

what?

you have good ball movement, skills and young inside mids

not as outside as the bombers but compared to us you are very outside

we are as inside as it gets, big and old inside mids, poor ball movement, chip sideways or bomb it down the line

We will win cos Melbourne will turn it over too much and our bigger backs will mop up. Agility, skills and pace also have less of an impact on a small narrow ground.

This article tells the story of how different the mix looked inside the centre square on Friday night.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-23/how-the-cats-holy-trinity-has-been-put-out-to-pasture

The coach sent a clear message from the start of the contest, sending Tim Kelly and Brandan Parfitt to keep Dangerfield company at the opening bounce.

Selwood and Mitch Duncan watched from the wing, while modern-day great Ablett, two months shy of turning 35, was stationed in the goalsquare.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-23/how-the-cats-holy-trinity-has-been-put-out-to-pasture


Danger, Parf and Kelly as the starters. With Constable also having plenty of looks at it (more than the skipper, in fact) over the course of the night.

So you could level that criticism at last year's inside mid grouping for sure. But Friday indicates we're not trending towards 'big and old' in there for 2019.

 

[goyoucatters]

So, let's sum this up:
Melbourne, who has good ball movement, skills, agility and pace, will lose by 5 goals to a team with big, old mids with poor ball movement who chip sideways or bomb it down the line.

Of course. What other reasonable conclusion could you draw, based on those parameters?

So, if the Dees find some inexplicable means of actually getting close to the Cats (or, God forbid, even managing to win), the Scott thread can again blissfully light up like the Harbour Bridge on NYE.

Happy days.

 

[romeohwho]

This article tells the story of how different the mix looked inside the centre square on Friday night.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-23/how-the-cats-holy-trinity-has-been-put-out-to-pasture




https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-23/how-the-cats-holy-trinity-has-been-put-out-to-pasture


Danger, Parf and Kelly as the starters. With Constable also having plenty of looks at it (more than the skipper, in fact) over the course of the night.

So you could level that criticism at last year's inside mid grouping for sure. But Friday indicates we're not trending towards 'big and old' in there for 2019.

Exactly-good article.
And not much bombing down the line or chipping sideways.

 

[Mr Meow]

Kolo out for a small

We should beat Melbourne it's too early in the season for outside teams to do well as their skills aren't up to it yet. Being at home is a further advantage.

Should win by 5+ goals

So last week wasn't Port running all over Melbourne, it was a tough contested Port team grinding out a win against the outside runners of Melbourne? Not too sure about that.

Hawks were smashed in contested possessions yet won through their outside game.

The bigger factor is as simple as it being at KP.

 

[cynical]

This article tells the story of how different the mix looked inside the centre square on Friday night.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-23/how-the-cats-holy-trinity-has-been-put-out-to-pasture




https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-23/how-the-cats-holy-trinity-has-been-put-out-to-pasture


Danger, Parf and Kelly as the starters. With Constable also having plenty of looks at it (more than the skipper, in fact) over the course of the night.

So you could level that criticism at last year's inside mid grouping for sure. But Friday indicates we're not trending towards 'big and old' in there for 2019.

Danger, Selwood and Menegola are still in the team. Constable is also pretty big.

Compared to Melbourne our midfield is much bigger and more mature.

I wouldn't base everything on round 1.

 

[cynical]

So last week wasn't Port running all over Melbourne, it was a tough contested Port team grinding out a win against the outside runners of Melbourne? Not too sure about that.

Hawks were smashed in contested possessions yet won through their outside game.

The bigger factor is as simple as it being at KP.

Port nullified Gawn in the ruck and Tom Rockliff had 44 disposals. Where did you think their run came from?

Hawks have always been an outside team.

 

[STPer18]

Tuouy said himself he'll be looking to return to the seniors at some point between rounds 4-6.

 

[Vdubs]

Kolo out for a small

We should beat Melbourne it's too early in the season for outside teams to do well as their skills aren't up to it yet. Being at home is a further advantage.

Should win by 5+ goals

Do you really believe that?
May will be back.
Gawn will be fired up.
They nearly beat us at home last year.

 

[Vdubs]

You could say that about any team

I hope Geel come out with a big 1st qtr and pile on the goals - and Melb ( where going to be fired up blah blah ) that will disintegrate pretty quickly

I wouldnt mind it pretty windy as well - opposition teams really struggle kicking goals when it is windy at Geel

We used to be good enough to overcome that being hunted. We could just power away.
No longer.

Are you going on Saturday pm?

 

[cynical]

Do you really believe that?
May will be back.
Gawn will be fired up.
They nearly beat us at home last year.

If it was round 7 then id say they could beat us.

It's round 2 they will turn it over too often, skills aren't up to par at this time of the year so the more outside teams dont do as well.

Henry will probably have 10 marks.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Do you really believe that?
May will be back.
Gawn will be fired up.
They nearly beat us at home last year.

I watched Gawn closely on the weekend and he looks injured. He just couldn't influence the contest and he couldn't jump to compete in the air. It looked groin related from the naked eye.

 

[romeohwho]

Do you really believe that?
May will be back.
Gawn will be fired up.
They nearly beat us at home last year.

I actually think we are getting them at a good time.
Dees seem to still not quite have their mindset right. If you contrast our approach and resolve with theirs from week 1-you’d have to be more pleased with us.
They lasted longer in 2018, but had, like us, an ordinary exit from the finals. And as one would expect, teams are usually keen to atone for that- we came out firing whereas they chucked it it last week. If we can go on from round 1’s second half, we are a very good chance to roll them. Viney is underdone and he monstered us. Dees may well get their heads right during the year, and will be very hard to beat, but they seem gettable to me at this point in the year.

 

[Vdubs]

I watched Gawn closely on the weekend and he looks injured. He just couldn't influence the contest and he couldn't jump to compete in the air. It looked groin related from the naked eye.

Say no more.

But you could be right.

 

[MacStradbroke]

Stanley will beat Gawn on Saturday, the same way he beat Grundy.
He will compete, he will wear him down, he will finish the game running.
Gawn will win a few hitouts, but when the ball hits the ground he will look like a T-Rex up against Velociraptor.
Preuss is the same. Good at stoppages but gets less touches than a goal post.

The same way he took Gawn down last year at KP.

 

[Spearman]

I watched Gawn closely on the weekend and he looks injured. He just couldn't influence the contest and he couldn't jump to compete in the air. It looked groin related from the naked eye.

that highlight from the game made it look like his ribs would be pretty sore. he we down fairly easily.

 

[Willo_]

I wouldnt mind it pretty windy as well - opposition teams really struggle kicking goals when it is windy at Geel

Likely to be a traditional Geelong in Geelong type game.. Cold and wet I believe.

 

[goyoucatters]

Danger, Selwood and Menegola are still in the team. Constable is also pretty big.

Compared to Melbourne our midfield is much bigger and more mature.

Of the players you raise here, only Danger and Constable were in the top four for centre bounce attendance on Friday night (Selsy was equal-fifth).

Constable is tallish but no heavier than Jones and Brayshaw, with Oliver and Viney both within a few kilograms. And clearly Chook has far less experience than any of that group as well.

With Kelly and Parf then being lighter than all the other players named here. And Parf along with Chook being the youngest of them all.

So overall there's not a great deal to support your assertion around our mids being much bigger and more mature.

I wouldn't base everything on round 1.

Fair enough. But the evidence of the two JLT matches and Round 1 all points towards this revised approach being prevalent this year. As well as the coach's declaration about the club's desire to specifically move forward with this transition of the mids group in 2019.

So all signs at this stage at least point to them persevering with this method in the middle for the time being.

 

[Willo_]

I watched Gawn closely on the weekend and he looks injured. He just couldn't influence the contest and he couldn't jump to compete in the air. It looked groin related from the naked eye.

I wasn't paying much attention to their off season but apparently plenty are underdone/coming back from surgery... I really rate the Dees so I'm not overly upset and this is the case, and we are getting them at the right time. We have a rough start to the year. I'm all for us banking as many wins as we can, regardless of if the teams we play are up to speed yet

 

[Chinacats]

Operation 'beat the crap out of Gawn' to commence at 7:25PM sharp next Saturday

Let’s hope they do it. Scott might even avoid it as a tactic altogether. Can’t see Stanley bullying Gawn. Expect Dees to get on the front foot and start roughing up Stanley and the kids! Stand up cats!