Political Discussion part #2 - Let’s go out for 10 Big Macs at the Engadine Maccas!!

[kirky]

Someone needs to get the "gaffe" man Shorten some View attachment 661628
to put over his mouth in public.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/co...s/news-story/5e87cb73474f1c089bd2affa01e078f9

Master of distraction Bill Shorten creating distractions

Yeh, we get it. The Mordor rag is at it again. Very few read it other than right wing nutters like yourself.

One party has an agenda focused on the future, the other has three word slogans and nothing more.

 

[brucetiki]

Anning's candidates not just morally bankrupt, but financially too

https://www.theage.com.au/federal-e...mABTEScl9eL2Ygx3ggQYRPjC-0sMQYz1fbzoo_zl9ipbs

 

[jenny61_99]

It’s really funny watching people argue about politics. Each insisting they are right and the other is wrong. The most hilarious (or saddest?) thing is that the two party system is broken beyond repair and I think you guys seem to have missed that bit.

 

[kirky]

And what do Bicks and Elite have to say about this headline from the Daily Telegraph (Sydneys main paper) on Anzac Day?

Disgraceful but what would one expect from a Mordor paper.

Hope the ALP have a look into media laws should they win office.

 

[Elite Crow]

Yeh, we get it. The Mordor rag is at it again. Very few read it other than right wing nutters like yourself.

One party has an agenda focused on the future, the other has three word slogans and nothing more.

No actually Bill is at it again, gaff lies gaffs and more lies.

But hey as long as voters don’t read the Australian it doesn’t matter does it? Their honesty and competence is irrelevant, after all “it will be alright”

 

[Elite Crow]

Squirming? Jesus you are seriously deluded.

Clowns? Well we have had a bunch of circus clowns running it for the past 6 years and what as I country do we have to show for it? **** all.

Has anyone actually seen anyone other than Morrison and that knob, Barnaby (probably pissed when he did the interview on the ABC or it sounded like it) on the campaign trail? Where is Josh, where is Christian, where is Mathias?

Suppose you also think that inflation at 0.00% for the quarter and probably another cut of interest rates coming shows the economy is in good shape?

Yeah squirming, how else do you explain these pearlers:

Being pounded in the media for not announcing your costings is a good tactic

Followed by:

“Don’t worry about the costings, it will be alright”

Or are they gaffs

 

[Elite Crow]

So what's the left's equivalent of right wing nutters because you sure as hell fit right in there like a hand in glove. Left Wing Extremists?

Left Wing Loonies

 

[1970crow]

It is one of the reasons he has a low approval rating. It will not make a difference in my opinion as the ordinary voter knows what they think of Bill Shorten. And Preferred MP ratings mean nothing in relation to who people vote for - Keating had a higher PPM rating than Howard in 1996, Rudd had a higher PPM rating than Abbott in 2013.

Well if he is doing 60 hours a week and getting $250k for it that is still out of whack. He would be in the top 1% earners in Australia and should be happy with that.

We all make choices in our lives - whether it be having a McMansion, sending kids to private school, driving a Mercedes. Doesn't mean the government should be handing out tax breaks etc to those who actually don't need it. The government financial support is there for those who are less fortunate in our society.

I agree with that but everywhere else society is picking up the tab for people's personal choices. We chose to not have children but we're contributing to other people's child care and schooling. The government's financial support is absolutely not only there for the less fortunate in our society. Do you have the faintest idea?

 

[kirky]

I agree with that but everywhere else society is picking up the tab for people's personal choices. We chose to not have children but we're contributing to other people's child care and schooling. The government's financial support is absolutely not only there for the less fortunate in our society. Do you have the faintest idea?

Yes I do have an idea. I also don't have children (my only regret in life) however children are the next tax paying generation to cover our schools, hospitals and pensions etc.

I should have made it clearer that if you are earning $250k really you have no reason to whinge with the What about me?

 

[kirky]

Another of Shorten's skeleton's rattling in the closet...

"There is strong evidence against this suggestion, the first being ROC executive director Chris Enright has said under oath he commenced a preliminary investigation on the day an article first appeared in The Australian about a $100,000 donation to GetUp made by Shorten."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/co...n/news-story/0e7e8402898cb57c933bc316cacbd5ab

Drop diversions and come clean

Ok we get it, you read The Australian. No-one reads it other than your type.

Please PM when you see a pro-Shorten front page on The Australian. Won't be holding my breath.

 

[kirky]

Not the Australian's fault Billy boy gives them so much fertile ground to keep ploughing...

Missed the point entirely (you can be a bit dimwitted) that The Smeartralian has not had one positive headline for Bill. All been positive headlines for Scott and his happy clapper crew.

 

[kirky]

Interesting articles but hey lets do nothing and all will be good.

http://www.tai.org.au/content/analysis-130-billion-year-benefit-gdp-avoiding-climate-change

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ons-claims-about-labors-climate-change-policy

 

[kirky]

Keep it up....just further evidence of a classic lefty handwringer that thinks he's just bit better and smarter than everyone else.

You made a point? LOL

I am better and smarter than you, thats all that counts.

Now how are those budget assumptions going to go with the economy tanking?

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ction-campaign-needs-to-start-facing-up-to-it

 

[kirky]

LOL at least I don't quote the biased LNP IPA website but you just luuuurrrvvvveeee quoting the ALP/Greens eqivalent The Australia Institute.

But can you can dispute the information given it was quoted also in The Guardian as well.

You do nothing and it will be an economic risk. That is what the LNP are doing, nothing.

 

[Elite Crow]

I am better and smarter than you, thats all that counts.

Now how are those budget assumptions going to go with the economy tanking?

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ction-campaign-needs-to-start-facing-up-to-it

You are better and smarter?

What with your recent form you’re really going to try and claim that?

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

Interesting articles but hey lets do nothing and all will be good.

http://www.tai.org.au/content/analysis-130-billion-year-benefit-gdp-avoiding-climate-change

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ons-claims-about-labors-climate-change-policy

How Many billion a year to run the weather modification programs? So the global warming damage to our economy is mitigated!?

Would it be 1 billion?

The bremer river flood event was started with a ten million dollar investment into the Australian rain corperation, by the Howard Gov. This is all. A matter of public record.

Watch the loony right go off about this.


But if you think about it, spending 1 billion to offset the damage that 130.billion were making, doing nothing about global warming, is Phuqing a lucrative investment. If the program costs 1 billion, it might be Alot less.

 

[1970crow]

What make me laugh is if he thinks they are just gaffes, he just accepts them, “oh it’s just another gaff, nothing to worry about, the voters won’t care”

Labor will win but seeing them have such a shit campaign and labor lovers squirming has made the election campaign a little enjoyable. But it’s concerning that these clowns will soon be running the country.

One thing that I’ve learned is that what is said to gain government isn’t necessarily policy while in government. I remain hopeful that once in power, Bill will actually wield it and realise he has the ability to say no. At least he’s not Krudd who had no power base and was always swinging in the wind of polling. Bill has a base and can’t be toppled, so I hope he realises his power and wields it for the good of all of us.

 

[1970crow]

Liberals to do a preference deal with Palmer

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...vWSpg92Z27xkGJs7xMTDg87ohufsg6rzZHLw0At5qCk8I

Aligned philosophies, makes sense. In breaking news, Greens do a deal with Labor.

 

[1970crow]

It’s really funny watching people argue about politics. Each insisting they are right and the other is wrong. The most hilarious (or saddest?) thing is that the two party system is broken beyond repair and I think you guys seem to have missed that bit.

It’s just an entertaining discussion Jen. Not as hilarious as you trying to tell us how brilliant Trigg was even after he proved how much of a furkcup he was. Pull your head in, you’ve got no high ground here given the bullshit you continued to peddle despite insurmountable evidence to the contrary.

 

[jenny61_99]

It’s just an entertaining discussion Jen. Not as hilarious as you trying to tell us how brilliant Trigg was even after he proved how much of a furkcup he was. Pull your head in, you’ve got no high ground here given the bullshit you continued to peddle despite insurmountable evidence to the contrary.

What the ****? I’m not taking the high ground at all. And nor am I peddling ANYTHING.... despite what evidence to the contrary? You blokes need a long, hard bloody look at yourselves. Trigg was years ago. I stood up for a mate and I’ve paid for it ever since. Fair enough then, and maybe for a couple of years after. But heck me... I’m no lollipops and rainbow person - haven’t been for years. Reckon you need to cut me some bloody slack. Enough already.

 

[Elite Crow]

What the ****? I’m not taking the high ground at all. And nor am I peddling ANYTHING.... despite what evidence to the contrary? You blokes need a long, hard bloody look at yourselves. Trigg was years ago. I stood up for a mate and I’ve paid for it ever since. Fair enough then, and maybe for a couple of years after. But glory be me... I’m no lollipops and rainbow person - haven’t been for years. Reckon you need to cut me some bloody slack. Enough already.

Cut you some slack? Jenny you bring it upon yourself. Your over the top condemnation of Relapse calling out over Betts is just an example of what annoys posters.

 

[kirky]

Aligned philosophies, makes sense. In breaking news, Greens do a deal with Labor.

It is probably the right move but in saying that most of the preferences that go from Greens to ALP are approx 80% however it historically isn’t been as tight with UAP or One Nation. UAP and One Nation get a larger share of their first preferences from Coalition voters and in previous elections due to the leakage only around 55% of UAP and One Nation preferences went to the Coalition and 45% ALP so if that occurs again it may actually cost the Coalition seats. Will be interesting to see what happens on May 18.

 

[Carmo]

I am better and smarter than you, thats all that counts.

Now how are those budget assumptions going to go with the economy tanking?

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ction-campaign-needs-to-start-facing-up-to-it

Even though I prefer fiscal rather than monetary corrective factors, to stick with the conventional setup, rates should've been cut once at the end of the prev quarter (December). Possibly with what RBA would be privy to, there may have been enough info for them to cut in September last year.

I reckon by they time they cut, the recession will already be here, the damage will be done and it will be all over bar the shouting until someone injects gov money into the system (deficit spends). If these parties play politics and go with the austerity game, it could get real nasty.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

You are better and smarter?

What with your recent form you’re really going to try and claim that?

Kirky doesn't blindly support the ones who have destroyed our economy for 45 years and then say the side that has cleaned up the mess can't manage the economy.

You can't get much dumber than that.

 

[Elite Crow]

Kirky doesn't blindly support the ones who have destroyed our economy for 45 years and then say the side that has cleaned up the mess can't manage the economy.

You can't get much dumber than that.

Given you are considered the biggest nutjob on here, I’ll take your version of events with a grain of salt.

But I reckon anyone who thinks being hammered about your policy costings is a good strategy and then moves onto “Don’t worry about the costings, it will be alright” is right up there with you.