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Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 2 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)
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I'd like to believe it, but after Wingard last year I'm just not getting my hopes up. There seems to be a few cases this year of players we have a chance for due to existing relationships, so it would be nice if something pans out. The other one I can think of is the fact we're enquiring about BOTH Hartley and Tippa, who are very close.
A haul of Hill, Hartley, Keath and Tippa would be incredible, since it frees up Naughton as a permanent forward, and Cordy to play forward when required, but I think it's also pretty unlikely. Don't want to go the Hawthorn route and think we're going to land every in-demand player in the competition this trade period.
Being a realist, I think one of Keath or Hartley, plus Smith, is a fairly likely scenario
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Unlikely. Could make throw away comments like that about the defence also.
Even if we improved attack we're not doing any damage in finals with a bottom 6 defence in the league.
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yeah, well I guess there is two possibilities - one is he was a young idiot who is maturing at a new club. The other is that he is on his best behaviour at his new club, but when he gets comfortable hell revert to form
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With Brisbane's ridiculously healthy list, they have a number of decent young players rotting in the NEAFL right now being starved of opportunity. Would love to try get in the ear of some of these younger guys and see if they're interested in coming over.
Cedric Cox is extremely quick and skilful, coming from the Kimberley in WA (meaning no go-home factor since it's miles from Perth) and has only managed 12 senior games since being drafted, with none this year. Turns 22 in a few weeks, and has been doing pretty well in the NEAFL lately
Sam Skinner looks like a decent KPD prospect, who has had a bit of time in the ruck and up forward too. Turned 22 last month.
Corey Lyons is the last one - we already have a few similar types, but this kid is just incredible at state level. Very smart player, averages nearly 30 disposals (this is increasing lately as he keeps getting better), nearly a goal per game so is having scoreboard impact out of the middle, and just looks a class above the rest. This guy is only 21 and will only get better over time.
Cox is out of contract in 2020, while both Skinner and Lyons are out of contract this year. All 3 could be had for a relatively low price, but all have enormous upside. Would hope we're at least enquiring
Cedric Cox is extremely quick and skilful, coming from the Kimberley in WA (meaning no go-home factor since it's miles from Perth) and has only managed 12 senior games since being drafted, with none this year. Turns 22 in a few weeks, and has been doing pretty well in the NEAFL lately
Sam Skinner looks like a decent KPD prospect, who has had a bit of time in the ruck and up forward too. Turned 22 last month.
Corey Lyons is the last one - we already have a few similar types, but this kid is just incredible at state level. Very smart player, averages nearly 30 disposals (this is increasing lately as he keeps getting better), nearly a goal per game so is having scoreboard impact out of the middle, and just looks a class above the rest. This guy is only 21 and will only get better over time.
Cox is out of contract in 2020, while both Skinner and Lyons are out of contract this year. All 3 could be had for a relatively low price, but all have enormous upside. Would hope we're at least enquiring
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The rumored saints offer is pushing close to that extra $200k.
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I looked into these stats. Where did you get these from? Not sure on their accuracy at all. In fact they seem highly dubious.
Just had a quick look at some data pulled from footywire:
We convert i50s to scores at 43%, league average is also 43% so yeah i wouldn't say a 4 goals difference at all.
If you looked at the Demons who have the worst i50 conversion in the league (38.1%) and suddenly gave them the best i50 conversion in the league (Cats 47%), that only increases their scoring by just under 3 goals.
Goal kicking accuracy we are running at 49.4%. League average is 51.8%. If we went at league average we score a mere 3 points per game more.
As I said, our attack is in ok shape. Defence is where the major issues lie.
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Keath is definitely my preference, was just thinking that with Hartigan out of favour (and other sides chasing Keath) he might be a more attainable option. Would easily take Keath or Hartley first
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If that figure is accurate, I'd hope we walk away. $800k is already pushing the "too much" territory, and I'd hate to see us enter a bidding war with the Saints. Would also mean Freo are justified in asking for more than just our 1st rounder, which I wouldn't be at all happy with
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LOL they can have him at a million a year
Keath & Hill would be the more likely ins and they would be my first choices of those mentioned recently.
The other one is Hately as a FA, not sure we need more than this.
IF we retain an earlyish pick (<30), we could draft a speedy small forward option. Rather do that than overpay for another teams mid-range player.
The other one is Hately as a FA, not sure we need more than this.
IF we retain an earlyish pick (<30), we could draft a speedy small forward option. Rather do that than overpay for another teams mid-range player.
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Our 1st, one of our 3rds and Williams should collectively pay for Hill and Keath, so I'd imagine we still have Pick ~28. I'd hope this is enough for Taylor or Weightman, or even McAsey as a KPP if he miraculously slides as some draft watchers seem to be predicting
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Yep , if he had to go , he had to go !
Still not looking forward to him in those colours in the coming years.
I pray you are right about the next flag !
If we still had Stringer we would have finished higher last year and wouldn't have been able to draft Bailey Smith. Just trying to find some positives..
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Good work Contador -- veeerrrryyyy happy with BSmith
A lot of talk on this thread about who we'd like to get. Not too much about who we'd give up.
Personally I think Bailey Williams is best 22 when firing. I was over B.Dale, but two weeks is a long time in football...
With Dickson and Morris likely to finish up, Picken and Boyd gone, Porter probably on the way out and Jong and Suckling uncertain, who does that leave as potential trades?
Lewis Young?
Webb?
Sweet?
I don't think we've got much to play with.
Personally I think Bailey Williams is best 22 when firing. I was over B.Dale, but two weeks is a long time in football...
With Dickson and Morris likely to finish up, Picken and Boyd gone, Porter probably on the way out and Jong and Suckling uncertain, who does that leave as potential trades?
Lewis Young?
Webb?
Sweet?
I don't think we've got much to play with.
Look at expected goal stats. We miss many easy shots compared to other teams. There was an article about that on afl.com.au recently.
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Sweet will be retained, and Lewis Young extended for a further two years recently. Webb could be traded/delisted, but I would expect a 1 year extension. Teams in our position (young and rebuilding) don't tend to trade out players unless they are approaching the end of their careers (and therefore won't be of value when the window opens). In our case, we don't really have anyone who fits that description. If Suckling or Dickson leave, we get nothing for them, and otherwise the only players I can see us losing willingly would be the fringe guys struggling for games (Webb, Jong, Porter) or homesick players (basically just Bailey Williams).
I wouldn't trade Williams if given the choice, but there's not much we can do if he requests a trade. More likely we give up picks.
On this topic though, I think people need to be prepared for the potential scenario that a side makes a huge play at one of our midfielders or half backs. Even if they are contracted, I would not be surprised to see any of, for example, Macrae, McLean or JJ targeted by other sides who are desperate for these types. Losing one of these guys is a legitimate possibility, but I'd hope if it did happen that we're able to use that to obtain some serious names.
Who would do a Keath for Williams trade? Keath is 27, Williams 21.
I think Williams will have the better career and have no doubt Williams will provide many more good games than Keath will over the next 10 years (perhaps not necessarily over the next 2 years) but do we need a KPD so badly that we are prepared to sacrifice a better player to get one?
Doesn't this make a mockery of the best available drafting philosophy?
I think Williams will have the better career and have no doubt Williams will provide many more good games than Keath will over the next 10 years (perhaps not necessarily over the next 2 years) but do we need a KPD so badly that we are prepared to sacrifice a better player to get one?
Doesn't this make a mockery of the best available drafting philosophy?
I see no reason we have to trade any off our current list considering we already have retirements and players coming out of contract to open up some spots on the list.
Young is going nowhere, his missus is from Melbourne and he’s in the middle of a focused development program (which is why he’s been playing out of position and can’t get out of the 2s). He’ll stick around, work on his deficiencies and hopefully be finding his place in the first team next year.
Webb is OOC and seems likely to be delisted. Wouldn’t be surprise to see a team take a punt as a rookie but probably just as likely to be signing for a VFL side and having another go at it at the end of the year. Has very little trade value.
We have a strong draft hand for both this year and next, giving us plenty of trade currency without the need to start shopping players around, particularly when we’d be lucky to get anything more than an early 3rd for any of our potentially tradable players.
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What's the thinking about B Lynch?
Ensure that they stay outside of finals, with a large portion of of their Cap tied up in Hanners and Hill if they get him
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Keath is being undervalued a bit here. Gonna cost more than a second rounder and I don’t think Bailey Williams has that much value right now unfortunately.
Any more than $800k for Hill and I hope we walk away. Adding a good key defender is my first priority. Another avenue to goal would be second.
Any more than $800k for Hill and I hope we walk away. Adding a good key defender is my first priority. Another avenue to goal would be second.
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