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Which small forwards do you rate better than Papley?

Jade Gresham
Robbie Gray
Charlie Cameron
Michael Walters
Gary Ablett
Chad Wingard
Luke Breust
Izac Rankine (Included in the list as he will be a better player in time)
Toby Greene
Orazio Fantasia (has had a recent form slump but I still rate him)
Daniel Rioli (Would be a more prominent player if he didn't have to share the small forward role with like 10 other players. He's a star!)

You could almost add Brent Daniels to the above list. He's starting to become a serious player. Just doesn't get talked about much because of all the other big names at GWS.

There are probably others you could add to the above list. That's just off the top of my head.

Papley is a very good player, but if given the option, you'd probably choose one of the above.

He's just the best that's potentially gettable. He's only worth a late first as an out of contract player. Might be best to wait it out for a year.
 
Would you rather:

Acquire Brad Crouch with pick 7 and Sam Gray with a Third Rounder (potentially even take pick 7 to the draft)

or

Trade Pick 7 and change for Tom Papley.

That's the sort of scenario you'd be facing. Personally I'd prefer the former.
It’s all about quality now.

If we land Cogs as a free agent, then absolutely I want Papley with pick 7.
 
Exactly Jim. Papley for pick 8 is just incredible overpaying. No from me. Martin absolutely worth 2nd.

If we were to use pick 8 at the draft, we'd be hoping he'd turn out like Papley. We desperately need a forward like him. Why not actually just get Papley who is a known quantity at AFL level and able to have an immediate impact next year?
 

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Clarko on 360 on Cogs
It’s fair that there is no announcement.
We can all wait if it’s GWS, Carlton & Hawthorn if we are all in a triangle to get him.

Robbo- have you spoken to him
Yeah, but not as much as graham wright and our group have

Our preferences as coaches is players stay where there are, we aren’t getting a crowbar to take them out, but if they are going to leave we want to right in the mix
 
Jade Gresham
Robbie Gray
Charlie Cameron
Michael Walters
Gary Ablett
Chad Wingard
Luke Breust
Izac Rankine (Included in the list as he will be a better player in time)
Toby Greene
Orazio Fantasia (has had a recent form slump but I still rate him)
Daniel Rioli (Would be a more prominent player if he didn't have to share the small forward role with like 10 other players. He's a star!)

You could almost add Brent Daniels to the above list. He's starting to become a serious player. Just doesn't get talked about much because of all the other big names at GWS.

There are probably others you could add to the above list. That's just off the top of my head.

Papley is a very good player, but if given the option, you'd probably choose one of the above.

He's just the best that's potentially gettable. He's only worth a late first as an out of contract player. Might be best to wait it out for a year.

Lol cmon you cannot have Rioli ahead of Papley based on current output...and Daniels...lol.
Fantasia can be a matchwinner but also goes completely missing in games and is injured a lot.
Rankine hasn't played a game...in any case we would want someone who can have an immediate impact.
Bresut is on the decline not the right fit.
Wingard has been poor for a few years now and has attitude issues...Papley a better player.
Ablett is again old so why discuss?
Gresham is at best on par with Papley.

Cameron, Walters, Gray & Greene i'll give you probably are a bit better than Papley. But so what?
 
If we were to use pick 8 at the draft, we'd be hoping he'd turn out like Papley. We desperately need a forward like him. Why not actually just get Papley who is a known quantity at AFL level and able to have an immediate impact next year?

It's all relative. Is a Rozee-type player going to be available at pick 7-9 this year? Would seem highly unlikely, last year was an anomaly, ridiculous draft.

Doesn't seem like pick 8 gets a dynamic small forward in this draft. I haven't studied it yet, though, so happy to be informed.
 
Al Clarkson on Cogs: "We're not going to get a crowbar and pull him out of there".

Reckons only wants to entertain bringing him in if he wants to leave. BS.

Anyway, if I'm Cogs, then I'd want to join the Blues. GWS aren't looking like they're going to win a flag. The Hawks haven't got the list for it, they'll finish between 5th-8th for a couple of years and then that's it, back down the pecking order. So Blues definitely would be the more attractive destination. But, I'm obviously not him so let's wait and see...
 
Clarko on 360 on Cogs
It’s fair that there is no announcement.
We can all wait if it’s GWS, Carlton & Hawthorn if we are all in a triangle to get him.

Robbo- have you spoken to him
Yeah, but not as much as graham wright and our group have

Our preferences as coaches is players stay where there are, we aren’t getting a crowbar to take them out, but if they are going to leave we want to right in the mix
Did he also say that we've poached someone else from Hawthorne?
 

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Just watching Clako on 360, he said we've poached someone (off field) from Hawthorn who's already been announced, and then it sounded like we have poached another who will be announced soon? Any ideas?
 
Clarko on 360 on Cogs
It’s fair that there is no announcement.
We can all wait if it’s GWS, Carlton & Hawthorn if we are all in a triangle to get him.

Robbo- have you spoken to him
Yeah, but not as much as graham wright and our group have

Our preferences as coaches is players stay where there are, we aren’t getting a crowbar to take them out, but if they are going to leave we want to right in the mix

He knows how to spin a bit of shysen ol Clarko
 
If we were to use pick 8 at the draft, we'd be hoping he'd turn out like Papley. We desperately need a forward like him. Why not actually just get Papley who is a known quantity at AFL level and able to have an immediate impact next year?

My thinking its too much for a small forward. Rather put that on the table for another midfielder who can rest forward.
Martin and Cogs will play forward and our current crew in who can also in Murphy, Cunners, Fisher, Gibbons, Kennedy, Setters, Dow .... Top ten is way overs.
 
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