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Bluemour Melting Pot XIX - Give Me Ed Baby - Return of the Prodigal Son
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Gawn wasn't his current shape when drafted, but was a couple inches taller and had circa 7kgs on TDK at draft time. Grundy on the other hand was 3kgs heavier (they're practically the same height).
TDK bulking to Gawn size would be detrimental to his playing style IMO
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Yeah, that's only like $50 for each one of his kids....
Flip is still TBC isn’t he?
Out of interest, where did the Geelong/Flip apparent interest/noise come from?
If they are the ones holding out a juicier contract for him, and that they’re missing out on Goldy + Sauce, perhaps that is still an option to prise him down the highway...which means there’s still a lot to play out on our ruck front.
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My point is people should not be getting ahead of themselves thinking TDK going to be playing seniors all of a sudden or close to stepping up as a senior ruckman. As one of two others alluded to, rucks take quite some time to be ready to play against the big boys in senior football and even have impact. Maybe 2023 to 2025 is more a time line for him. I am conservative with my expectations on developing rucks.
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We thought it was Brett.....
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I think he gave Warnock an absolute touch-up in 2014, was the first time I thought the Dees have got one here.
But it probably took until 2015 for him to be regarded as A grade.
So maybe 5 years.
If we extrapolate- 2021/22 seems a reasonable expectation for TDK to blossom/ really show signs. footyfan78 ’s view 2023 is probably more likely.
Man we need a quality option in the meantime
Yeah we have the one-year deal on the table, but I cannot see how/why the Cats would be looking at him. They have 14 average-decent ruckmen and - much as I love Flip - he hasn't proven himself to be much better than Rhys Stanley. So I reckon he stays.
Did he have 2 knee reco’s prior to then too?
Let TDK develop naturally, whether that warrants early games next year or in 18 months time.
If form warrants selection and that is against less seasoned ruckmen, so be it
Personally unless he is taking his game to an extrodanairy high level next year, he would probably only play if either MK or Levi were out, along with one of our key forwards (resonable chance ), then he could play as a forward/relief ruckman
Again, let's not dictate a timeframe, he has plenty of time
If form warrants selection and that is against less seasoned ruckmen, so be it
Personally unless he is taking his game to an extrodanairy high level next year, he would probably only play if either MK or Levi were out, along with one of our key forwards (resonable chance ), then he could play as a forward/relief ruckman
Again, let's not dictate a timeframe, he has plenty of time
Nope, locked and loaded!!!!HUN just reported that Eddie has stated that his preference is a return to the Blues rather than the Suns.
Probably something we probably already suspected, but it's now been reported.
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Finally saw the first Grundy to Crows rumor this morning. So it may be happening and it does impact us as Crows will be looking for draft picks and also to clear cap space. Wonder who can be shaken loose that we want?
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You'd think Betts coming back would make the Club even more palatable for other players on the fence about coming to Princes Park?
English was drafted in 2016 at 19yrs although he was physically underdeveloped at the time he had a year in age difference giving him a bit of a head start which at that young age which makes a big difference to a kid coming into the afl system, super talent coming along beautifully who imo will be an absolute gun.
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Sounds like the perfect list manager then. I don't want a list manager that is easy going and is too afraid to make the tough decisions.
The whole Grundy to SA thing is ridiculous really. They won't be letting him go for anything, and the Crows have their own top-shelf young ruck now in O'Brien.
I still reckon we'd be chatting to BG about the chance to come to us, but would be such low odds that it wouldn't really be worth discussing beyond pipe dreams.
EDIT: The Grundy quote with Jon Ralph does - at first glance - leave the door wide open. But still stand by my above comments. Would go for Reilly O'Brien if this was going to happen.
Wikileaks of mis-information...
Born in Aug 1997, drafted in Nov 2016.
Only just turned 22.
He's 2 years older than TDK...And the point isn't really whether someone can fill the role in a literal sense, its about whether someone can give you the output that allows you to be a top 4 side. And I wouldn't really be arguing that Tim English does that yet.
Look, I'm not arguing that you need a superstar ruck to be a premiership contender. But you do need someone who can physically go with a Grundy or Gawn. They need to be able to crash and bash. And I think it's enormously optimistic to be pencilling TDK in for that in the next 2-3 years.
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TDK Will be AFL ready around the age of 21 or 22 give or take a bit. 23 at the latest. In saying that he may well play a few games filling in here and there as a forward who rucks in 2020.
He's athletic with good football skills and abilities which puts him ahead. His body is not underdeveloped for his age.
He's athletic with good football skills and abilities which puts him ahead. His body is not underdeveloped for his age.
Simmered.
Cats are the new North?
Goldstein and now Higgins, don't want to join them..
Goldstein and now Higgins, don't want to join them..
21yo next season in July. Season# 3 though. Interesting times ahead.
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