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I would rather a cheap banger like Wills and spend the currency that Wines would cost on a players like Berry, Williams etc

There's just something not right about the notion of Wines to our club.
The need. The cost. Having been a captain and now subordinate to a younger player.

Who knows what our real needs will be in 12 months time? A quality ruckman may be much more important.
 
There's just something not right about the notion of Wines to our club.
The need. The cost. Having been a captain and now subordinate to a younger player.

Who knows what our real needs will be in 12 months time? A quality ruckman may be much more important.

Don't get me started on ruckmen

Couple of raw, project types in this draft that will be there late/rookie
 

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if Ollie Wines ends up at Hawthorn in a trademark Clarko Smash N Crab type recruiting heist. They have cap space opened up, the draft pick(s) assets required to satisfy Port, as well as the Chad Wingard connection.

The Hawks have been suspiciously quite in the trade period too far, if I had to make a guess, I would say Hawthorn would be more keen on Wines than us.
Bloody Hawthorn.
But you're right, it would be typical of them
 
C'mon Dodo. Get off your ego and get Daniher done. He has seen the light and doesn't like you guys anymore! Once again, you are holding up the show to satiate your inflated ego. Appreciate your dogged determination however, get over it and let our (much more significant) dominoes fall where they should.

Bad enough that you sold a lemon to Sheil, don't let history repeat.
 
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Ollie Wines ends up at Hawthorn in a trademark Clarko Smash N Crab type recruiting heist. They have cap space opened up, the draft pick(s) assets required to satisfy Port, as well as the Chad Wingard connection.

The Hawks have been suspiciously quite in the trade period too far, if I had to make a guess, I would say Hawthorn would be more keen on Wines than us.
...... Mitchell omeara wines... very one pace
 
5 and 9 was agreed on for Daniher early last week. Dodoro and co had a change of mind and are asking for more which is holding up all other trades.

We will get Papley and Martin aventually

Phillips will get to Ess tomorrow and we will nab Pittonet for a 3rd rounder

Riley Knight off to Sydney (above poster)
 

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Don't get me started on ruckmen
Couple of raw, project types in this draft that will be there late/rookie

Well, we have one year to see whether we can make a star out of Pittonet.
At least we now have only three legitimate ruck-men on the books, allowing everyone fair opportunity.

Next year though can be a whole different thing and finding the right ruck-man may be the priority.
Pity TDK isn't a year or two older and been able to stay on the park longer than he has been able to.
 
The idea of offering next years first for Wines, take it or leave it, is nice but the reality is our future first is no longer as valuable as it once was. Teams will he operating on the basis that it will be pick 10 or worse, which probably isn’t enough for Wines on its own.

And also that there are a ton of players that have links to team through NGA etc. A massively compromised draft.
 
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