Bluemour Melting Pot XXI - Like seriously, the polar ice caps have got nothing on us

[rezzi]

Can somebody with a big brain translate that latest Bluemour for me?

 

[FRUMPY]

Dodo on Sen. We weren't interested in 5&9 we wanted players.

Now denying swans offered 5&9 despite Harley saying they did 10 mins ago.

Essendon said from the top that 5 & 9 wouldn't get it done - so swans didn't offer it because they knew it wouldn't get the job done - how hard is it to follow?

Essendon wanted players - players swans weren't willing to part with (heeney etc)

 

[jd2010]

hahaha eddie now a recruiter/oracle.......FMD

Been spoken about at length in regards to Jack Martin. Eddie is a trusted indigenous football club leader. His word means as much any other at the club when luring new talent in

 

[Navara79]

Can somebody with a big brain translate that latest Bluemour for me?

Harley Bennell

 

[FRUMPY]

Can someone pls confirm.

Does Martin have to nominate for (and get passed over in) the ND before he makes it through to PSD?

Or just go straight to PSD?

Hoping for the latter.

Nope can just nominate PSD if he wants

 

[ferrisb]

Can somebody with a big brain translate that latest Bluemour for me?

Middle aged motorbike = Harley

Problem with baby cows = calves

Ergo Harley Bennell and his calf problems....

As the board needs a bit of cheering up this morning, here's a calf-related joke for all the parents of small kids out there

Knock, knock
Who's there?
Interrupting Cow
Interrupting Cow W...
MOOOOOO!!!!!!

 

[Coops93]

Can someone pls confirm.

Does Martin have to nominate for (and get passed over in) the ND before he makes it through to PSD?

Or just go straight to PSD?

Hoping for the latter.

He can nominate for the PSD without nominating for the ND.

He can also choose to nominate for the ND if he wishes, but I don't know why he would. With the PSD he can set his price for the first 2 years - which by ITK notes seem to suggest will be very high, as we're going to front load it so no-one else can.

 

[BluesPres]

The revisionists are trying their hardest but this was nothing but a terrible outcome for us. It doesn't matter if Daniher didn't get done - Papley nominated us, everyone said it was a done deal, and we didn't get him. We just have to hope it was the Swans that kept him stranded and not us, so he isn't bitter about coming next year. We'll have to wait until November to know if we get Martin or not. The entire basis of the pick swap with Adelaide was that we'd trade this pick for a proven player, and we haven't... that trade can now only be seen as a failure. I don't think anyone should be devastated, but it's very disappointing because I absolutely believe there are list managers out there who could have got these deals done, SOS clearly isn't one of them

Sure some list managers might have gotten them done but would have caved to outrageous demands and severely overpaid.

Disappointing but not a bad outcome.

The short term-ism on here is astounding. The lack of patience and inability to see the long game is a constant issue.

Give up too much and you’ll have no currency next year when arguably there is a greater selection of players coming out of contract and an even more compromised draft. Worst thing would be for us to be sitting here and complaining about overpaying.

There is more than 1 way to skin a cat when they’re uncontracted.

 

[Holy Rioli]

He can nominate for the PSD without nominating for the ND.

He can also choose to nominate for the ND if he wishes, but I don't know why he would. With the PSD he can set his price for the first 2 years - which by ITK notes seem to suggest will be very high, as we're going to front load it so no-one else can.

Apologies for the intrusion, but there is no PSD this year:

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

The AFL Draft, first held in 1986, is the major list management tool for AFL clubs

www.afl.com.au

 

[AleRena]

I have no doubts that the ITK's are in fact ITK's...

IMO, the info they get is correct when they receive it, but we all now that things change.

The question then becomes, who are their sources for info? I highly doubt it's SOS himself or Agresta etc but rather people deep in the club with access to info or media, the info they receive may well and truly be correct - At That Time.

Come on... It's like people here honestly believe that SOS mid discussion with other managers during trade time will shoot off a quick text to our ITK's during negotiations, just to make sure we here at Bigfooty are kept updated. LOL I guess he might be trying to get our thoughts on how to trade too!

Right or wrong, I for one appreciate the ITK's sharing info they have, would much rather read/discuss that than reading page after page of dribble.

 

[Coops93]

With regards to the SEN worker saying it's smoke and mirrors - is that suggesting we're not really interested in him and are just pretending to be?

 

[Arr0w]

Thats what my source said as well. Smoke and mirrors. Eddie expecting to meet with the target in the coming week and give a recommendation on if it's worth the risk

So which one is it?

Your rumour states his calves are the concern, not his off field

Is Eddie doing a medical on Harley's calves?

 

[Broadside]

I don't think we can judge this trade period until we find out if we can secure Martin, and the cost (if any).

 

[Bluez Rule]

So is everyone over there little tanty's now... finished tossing the toys out of the pram?

Good... SOS has responded well to what was basically an attempted strong arm effort from GC17, and by extension the AFL, to hand over another top 10 pick to good old Gold Coast.

SOS offered up a number of good deals to GC17, who was apparently under instructions from the AFL to be harder at the negotiating table. But it helps to be tough at the negotiating table when you are in a position of strength. Unfortunately for them, they were trying to be tough negotiators from a position of weakness. Martin is uncontracted and will now be pi**ed off with GC17 because of the stupid stance that they took... especially after trading Ah Chee for two 2020 picks... I'm sure you all know which rounds they are in. SOS looked at their final offer and told them to pound sand before walking out of the room laughing at their weak efforts.

Mind you, he came across as a bit perturbed with both GC17's list manager and that stupid twat from * who basically wasted the whole trade period for us and pretty much for Shitney. Mind you, he did screw Dodoro over when he got pick 57 and 70 for Phillips and 61 and 72. Shit, I would have taken pick 70 on it's own for Phillips after doing a Grigg on us.

As for the deal with Shitney for Papley, it was always going to be dependent on the Daniher trade and when that collapsed, Shitney no longer needed pick 9 so the Papley deal died in the arse. What sort of deadshit a-hole wants 2 first round picks for a guy who has hardly got on the field in the last 2 years... oh that's right... it's Dodoro. I'm certain that the guy cooks his own bread at home every day... a bit of a master baker if you will.

Now, I've heard a whole lot of "what about plan B" on Farcebook and on Twitter... we should have taken Butler... or Cutler... why didn't we look at some other small forward? Scak SOS... this has been a failure of a trade period!

Why?

Butler has played 22 games in the last 2 years... and has only played 45 games over the course of his 5 season career so far! Butler kicked 53 goals from his 45 games at Premiershipmond... massive!
Cutler has played a whopping 66 games in 6 seasons at the paddlepops and only played 3 games this year. He has kicked a whopping 32 goals... in 66 matches.

Lewis Taylor... 112 games, 88 goals, 5 games this year.
Callum Ah Chee... 45 games, 24 goals. 1 game this year.

There is a reason why all 4 of those guys went for late picks and played bugger all games this year... they are not A grade small forwards.

Eddie had a poor year by his standards... he played 21 games and kicked 37 goals. If we want an experienced depth small forward... we could always pick up Jeffy as a DFA.

Now... I don't know about you lot, but I am actually pretty happy that we walked out of the trade period with a good backup to Kreuzer for bugger all, and we also got back Eddie for 12 months to act as a player/mentor. I'm also happy that GC17 have managed to screw themselves with Martin because he is out of contract and will walk into the PSD and probably as for a 12 month 1.2 million dollar contract. Out of GC17, the Dees and us... Carlton are the only team that can afford that sort of contract. I'm not saying that we would be so crass as to tamper with the PSD and get Martin to screw his old club... but fu** it... they have 4 top 20 picks. If they can't pick up some serious talent with that lot, they need to offer SOS 2 million a year to go to the Gold Coast for 3 years and rebuild their entire list.

well said.

 

[Opine]

Apologies for the intrusion, but there is no PSD this year:

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

The AFL Draft, first held in 1986, is the major list management tool for AFL clubs

www.afl.com.au

You‘re mistaken. The reason why the date isn’t specified in that correspondence is because it’s not a mandatory fixture . But, if you read the AFL rules for 2019 there may be a PSD if a club/s chooses to participate; and, as zeggie has rightfully pointed out, the AFL activates it’s discretion accordingly.

 

[jd2010]

So which one is it?

Your rumour states his calves are the concern, not his off field

Is Eddie doing a medical on Harley's calves?

The source has said that the belief is that he has his off field sorted. The club still is likely to do it's due diligence on that matter of course

 

[zeggie]

Apologies for the intrusion, but there is no PSD this year:

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

The AFL Draft, first held in 1986, is the major list management tool for AFL clubs

www.afl.com.au

Things have changed rather dramatically in the last few days. AFL just canned the introduction of the pre season supplementary selection period until early 2021 at the earliest.

Andrew Dillion might dust out the Rule book and enact Rule 7.1

Might.

You‘re mistaken. The reason why the date isn’t specified in that correspondence is because it’s not a mandatory fixture . But, if you read the AFL rules for 2019 there is PSD if a club/s chooses to participate.

Clubs choose to participate IF the AFL GC announces it. We don't get a say in whether it is held. Martin has to nominate and we now cross our fingers that the AFL enact it.

AFL can decide not to and Martin is forced into the National Draft.

 

[Zlatan]

I love how all of a sudden a pick almost everyone was happy to move on without hesitation in what everyone is calling a very average draft year is now all of a sudden getting us a gun player.

Have seen the word "gun" used several times now.

It's still the bog average pick it was when everyone wanted to trade it away.

We were happy to move it on, and were unable to.

Next step, use pick 9 in the draft to pick the best player for our club.

Orrrrrr...do we shut the club down because we couldn’t get Papley?

 

[juzz88]

Glad I'm not the only one who is happy SOS didn't pay overs to force the deals through.

I feel for him, he was damned if he did and damned if be didn't. But in my opinion, I'd much rather he walk away than start giving in to unrealistic demands.

We'll be right.

Go Blues!

 

[Coops93]

I don't think we can judge this trade period until we find out if we can secure Martin, and the cost (if any).

I think if we do end up getting him for free this period is a massive win.

 

[jimsta10]

People who pot ITK's have to be people who:

1: Are jealous that they are not considered ITK
2: Use ITK comments to their mates claiming they are ITK and therefore feel stupid to their mates when things don't come off
3: Are members of some non existing betting site where they have plunged on ITK info and lost their house

If not the above I really have no idea why they get so angry lol
Sure be disappointed things didn't come off but looking for scapegoats is bizarre.

People who pot ITK posters know jack shit and big sookie la la’s.

Don’t shoot the messenger.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Apologies for the intrusion, but there is no PSD this year:

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

The AFL Draft, first held in 1986, is the major list management tool for AFL clubs

www.afl.com.au

https://nabafldraftnom.com.au/images/form/booklet_mens.pdf

If you're going to intrude with definitive statements, you'd wanna make sure you're well informed. The dates haven't been announced as there will not be a PSD unless a player nominates for it.

 

[BrownDog20]

Apologies for the intrusion, but there is no PSD this year:

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

The AFL Draft, first held in 1986, is the major list management tool for AFL clubs

www.afl.com.au

Incorrect

It is same day as rookie draft if required

 

[windows1]

No, Papley is left stranded....and he can blame his current club for that who quite clearly didn’t want him to go and have the leverage of 3 more contracted years.

Martin will get to us, absolutely, put your house on it, take it to the bank, guaranteed. That’s a win, and will be seen as so when it happens.

Keep our draft hand and still get a very talented player, GC have essentially pi**ed one of their handouts down the toilet. f*n idiots

Papley can blame himself and his Management. He signed a contract.

It’s Martin who has been left stranded. He has given GC 6-7 years and is out of contract and STILL can’t find a new home. Feel sorry for him.

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

Some of you are the common clay of the new west.