Secondary PE jobs aren't that easy to get due to there being a high umber of graduates with that qualification.
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Do you mean in terms of prestige? Some private schools might care - but most schools won't. Studying at ACU might be a benefit for Catholic school jobs.Thank you, this is useful. That fits in well with what I want to do then. Do you think the university studied at matters?
My preference is definitely secondary, it’s more the employability aspect that had me thinking about the Primary/Secondary degree.Do you mean in terms of prestige? Some private schools might care - but most schools won't. Studying at ACU might be a benefit for Catholic school jobs.
In terms of whether to do Secondary at ACU now or wait until next year to Primary/Secondary at Monash, it really depends. If you want to mostly teach in Secondary but only thinking of doing Prim/Sec for employability, I would say just focus on Secondary. If you want to do Prim/Sec because you aren't sure which you would rather teach in, then it might be good to do Prim/Sec.
The people I know who did the Prim/Sec course - and after a few placements of both settings, they knew which setting they wanted to work in - so that, along with the career flexibility, is a benefit. It also depends on what you would be doing for the next six months while waiting for the Prim/Sec course to start. Are you looking at an 18-month accelerated course or a two-year course?
That would be my recommendation then. Finishing at the end of a year is advantageous. There are many more positions available then (although there are more graduates as well). I finished mid-year, and although I got a job, there weren't many positions around at the time. Others had to settle for CRT work - which dries up once VCE exams finish - and no pay over the holidays. As I said, Hums/English would be fairly employable regardless though.My preference is definitely secondary, it’s more the employability aspect that had me thinking about the Primary/Secondary degree.
I’m pretty keen to get qualified as soon as possible so I’m thinking I’ll do the 18 month course. If I can start the secondary degree at ACU in July, I could be done by the end of next year.
Thanks for all the help. Really useful. I reckon I'll do that.That would be my recommendation then. Finishing at the end of a year is advantageous. There are many more positions available then (although there are more graduates as well). I finished mid-year, and although I got a job, there weren't many positions around at the time. Others had to settle for CRT work - which dries up once VCE exams finish - and no pay over the holidays. As I said, Hums/English would be fairly employable regardless though.
Yep. I know of some who have had to go on Centrelink. Not to mention Recruitment Online has slowed up as schools hold off on recruiting until they find out what happened. I know our school has told applicants they have withdrawn the positions until further notice.Supply teachers must be feeling the pinch. Wouldn't be much need for them atm.
Stick with History/English there are a s**t tonne of PE teachers. I'm a Humanities and English teacher (Politics and History are my majors, whilst English is my minor). Walked into my school as a humanities teacher, I'm now solely senior English. English teachers are always in demand.Am almost done (in my last semester) with my Bachelor of Arts and have decided to do teaching. I’m still a bit torn between whether primary or secondary is the way to go. Secondary is my preference as a History and English teacher but I’m worried the job prospects aren’t that great for that. Would doing PE give me a better chance? It’s not my preference to do PE but if it would help then I’d do it.
Have to decide which uni/s to apply for as well. If I went to ACU, I could start straight away in semester 2, but would have to pick between primary/secondary. If I wait for next year, I could to the Primary and Secondary degree at Monash. I like the idea of being qualified for p-12 but would mean I waste the second half of this year. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks for the reply. With regards to History/Humanities, I’m a bit confused. On the ACU application, it lists History and Humanities as separate teaching areas. How does this work in relation to subjects at school that you can teach? If I was to do English and Humanities as my teaching areas, does that mean I couldn’t teach History? And visa versa if I was to do English and History?Stick with History/English there are a s**t tonne of PE teachers. I'm a Humanities and English teacher (Politics and History are my majors, whilst English is my minor). Walked into my school as a humanities teacher, I'm now solely senior English. English teachers are always in demand.
In regards to Primary and Secondary.
What age bracket would you prefer to teach? For me, I can't hack the little kids 'he did this, she said that' and the helicoptering parents who arrive in the classroom in the morning and want to know the ins and outs.
Hums is a 7-10 subject. History is year 11& 12Thanks for the reply. With regards to History/Humanities, I’m a bit confused. On the ACU application, it lists History and Humanities as separate teaching areas. How does this work in relation to subjects at school that you can teach? If I was to do English and Humanities as my teaching areas, does that mean I couldn’t teach History? And visa versa if I was to do English and History?
Re the age bracket, I’m pretty sure I’m going to do secondary. Was tossing up a bit but have settled on secondary over the past week or so.
What deliverance said.Thanks for the reply. With regards to History/Humanities, I’m a bit confused. On the ACU application, it lists History and Humanities as separate teaching areas. How does this work in relation to subjects at school that you can teach? If I was to do English and Humanities as my teaching areas, does that mean I couldn’t teach History? And visa versa if I was to do English and History?
Re the age bracket, I’m pretty sure I’m going to do secondary. Was tossing up a bit but have settled on secondary over the past week or so.
In short, it doesn't have much weight, internal to schools.How does this work in relation to subjects at school that you can teach?
Finish you teaching course and consider the following.Am almost done (in my last semester) with my Bachelor of Arts and have decided to do teaching. I’m still a bit torn between whether primary or secondary is the way to go. Secondary is my preference as a History and English teacher but I’m worried the job prospects aren’t that great for that. Would doing PE give me a better chance? It’s not my preference to do PE but if it would help then I’d do it.
Have to decide which uni/s to apply for as well. If I went to ACU, I could start straight away in semester 2, but would have to pick between primary/secondary. If I wait for next year, I could to the Primary and Secondary degree at Monash. I like the idea of being qualified for p-12 but would mean I waste the second half of this year. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Same can be said for career politicians & education department workers. They're bred for those job, straight into the public sector from uni, rarely have experience elsewhere. From their experience, university is a job factory. "It worked for me and people I know." Survivorship bias is still the basis of careers education. Teachers breed more teachers, farmers breed farmers, builders builders etc.To be honest I can’t understand why so many careers teachers continually recommend students to continue on to Uni when you can earn a hell of a lot more doing a trade. It can only be that their narrow view of education and careers is because that’s all they have experienced. School, school, school and school.
You have two "sets" of curriculum - The Vic Curriculum (Foundation - Year 10) and VCE (Years 11 and 12).I’m a bit confused about the difference between History and Humanities in terms of what they qualify you to teach. I’ve got an offer to do the postgrad saying I can do two of History, Humanities or Media Studies.
If I do History as a teaching area, does that only qualify my to teach VCE history or is there some overlap between the two teaching areas?
Sorry for the dumb question.
Thanks for that. I’ll definitely do Humanities then, with the extra VCE options it gives.You have two "sets" of curriculum - The Vic Curriculum (Foundation - Year 10) and VCE (Years 11 and 12).
These are the study areas for The Vic Curriculum for Humanities:
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Schools will have their own approach to teaching these study areas. With either History or Humanities as a method, you would be qualified to teach any of these study areas at Years 7-10.
These are the study areas for VCE for Humanities:
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With a History method, you would be "qualified" to teach 21st Century History and Global Empires (the two History VCE subjects) - however you may be asked to teach some of the other subjects - assuming you had had some exposure to them in your undergrad.
With a Humanities method, you would be "qualified" to teach any of these subjects - a dedicated 'History' teacher may be preferred by some schools to teach VCE History over a teacher with a generalist Humanities method - however - it depends on other factors such as timetabling and other subject loads.
Media Studies is a totally different domain (arts). Assuming this is something you want to teach, it can be advantageous to have two different methods - particularly as you could then teach across multiple domains - which is good for job flexibility etc.
However, I would recommend this only in the situation where you would enjoy teaching both methods, as you may find yourself losing classes in humanities to teach Media classes - if required by the school.
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Not really imo. You may give you more of a chance of VCE History position early on. But eventually, it doesn't really matter in the long run. Experience and timetabling take priority.Thanks for that. I’ll definitely do Humanities then, with the extra VCE options it gives.
I’m not that keen on Media Studies but is there that much point in doing History?
It would mean that you could apply for Media Studies / VCE Media positions - so yes. However, as mentioned, depending on the school, it could result in you also losing some Hums/History classes if the school needs you to teach Media.If Humanities allows me to teach VCE history anyway (even if it takes some time to get a VCE spot), would having Media as one of my two areas improve my job prospects initially?