2020 Non-Crows AFL Discussion

[AmericanCrow]

The Crows squad that will genuinely compete for our next flag, will have barely less than 10 current players.

Agreed

 

[ABAB]

Port 14 v 1 inside 50's last qtr.

Enjoy the asterisk premiership if you win it (I bet you Hinkley will be asking for 5 years contract if he win it), as we will enjoy our asterisk spoon.

 

[1970crow]

How come Port players that are 70kg dripping wet don't need to build their bodies in the 2s for 2 years.

 

[pjcrows]

Hilarious watching Vic teams having to do a heap of travel and then dying in the arse in last quarters.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I got kicked out. Had to reset password to get in.

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Kayo knows you hate the Power...

 

[FR0GGY]

It's the canary in the coal mine for how bad our coaching staff is, though, changing the names would just change who is struggling.

Would it though?
We performed similarly last year and the performances were stark.

 

[cleanhands]

Ken heading down to get a bit of me time

 

[jackster83]

Hilarious watching Vic teams having to do a heap of travel and then dying in the arse in last quarters.

Except against us.

 

[GROTTO]

Ken heading down to get a bit of me time

Leave Kenny alone, I like Drunk Kenny.

 

[jenny61_99]

There has to be more to the story, the lowest of scum wouldn’t do that surely.

He was drunk after a game. My mate was on walking sticks so couldn’t retaliate. (I would have hit him with the crutches!) I think Brisbane had just lost to Carlton up here? And my mate was in a Carlton kit. Some people are just arseholes.

 

[Geoffa32]

Kayo knows you hate the Power...

Enjoyed that game.

Dislike Richmond even more.

This is the first time I have thought all year they may win the Premiership.

And good on em.


We had our chance, our players choked. No point being bitter about Port having a crack.


Would rather them than Richmond.

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[hey shorty]

This could be the worst year on record.

 

[hey shorty]

Enjoyed that game.

Dislike Richmond even more.

This is the first time I have thought all year they may win the Premiership.

And good on em.


We had our chance, our players choked. No point being bitter about Port having a crack.


Would rather them than Richmond.

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That's probably the worst post you've ever written lol

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Enjoyed that game.

Dislike Richmond even more.

This is the first time I have thought all year they may win the Premiership.

And good on em.


We had our chance, our players choked. No point being bitter about Port having a crack.


Would rather them than Richmond.

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Agree it was a cracking game.

West Coast from Brisbane for me...

 

[GROTTO]

Enjoyed that game.

Dislike Richmond even more.

This is the first time I have thought all year they may win the Premiership.

Stay the course champ. This kind of talk will get you banned from here.

The Tigers in September (Ok October in Corona Year) will tear them a new one, esp in QLD. Then there is the Lions and also the Eagles.

But if they do go all the way and win the Lightning Carnival, then kudos to them, I won a few in u10s. Its a terrific feeling regardless of it being a compromised and cheap flag like our NAB Cup flags.

 

[GROTTO]

Agree it was a cracking game.

West Coast from Brisbane for me...

+1

Dry sunny conditions in October. Eagles midfield and power forwards will tear them apart, we know that the Lions can and will too.

Finals are not played in August ( would have been a game in May all things perfect).

 

[Golumless]

You are not watching the same team as me. The young players you identify have done nothing to suggest they would play with a top 8 team, let alone top 4.

Absolutely you are over rating each and every youngster you identified.

Fogerty?? He can’t even play a full half let alone 4 quarters.

Not at all. It's all pretty basic stuff. If a kid flashes high end potential, or if he can fit into a role, he'll end up in the best 22 of a side whether he's playing for 1st or 18th. After all, why persist with an average 22-23 year old when a 19 year old can come in, give similar performance and potentially would be better, a cardinal sin of sport would be ignoring that, as there always needs to be an eye to the future. Not only that, but by virtue of being in a much better system, every single player listed would be better by proxy. Sport becomes a lot easier when more important players are doing their job.

Did you miss the part where I said if Fogarty was drafted by another team? The key words were another team because that means Fogarty would have been managed by a competent fitness group and not the hacks we currently have.

Flashes? When your defense of players is they show flashes, that sort of makes my point.

All the vast majority of kids show is flashes. That's the point of developing talent. You put a kid in your squad and you hold them in your best 22 for as long as you can, if they show they have the tools to become a top player in the future. Very few 19-20 year old are a complete package and every side has plenty of positions where you do not need four quarter, consistent performance from. After all, football does not support 22 week in week out performers.

The reason 50 game mark is so heavily fetishied over is due to that point, you should have enough preseasons under your belt to become consistent. On top of having enough time to truly get comfortable with the game.

What is lazy is the narrative that professional players can’t get themselves game fit without proper coaching.

These are allegedly professionals. If a professional is unable to discern what type of fitness is necessary to compete at this level, “good coaches” or not, they best find another line of work.

And they would be following the program given by their fitness/high performance staff to the letter, as per their job requirements. After all, it's the job of the fitness/high performance staff to make sure they gear a program so players are fit and not ruined by injury. Pre-seasons exist and they would be controlled by our coaches, and more importantly, our fitness manager (and AFL has one of the longest pre-seasons in world sport, making this even more vital).

A program goes too hard and will cook players who follow it. A program goes too light and it'll mess up the fitness base. Is it surprising the players who are the least impacted play in some of the least taxing positions, i.e. defence?

If it's one or two players. It's random and you question work ethic. Half the squad, and especially focused around the more taxing positions on the field (i.e. midfield) are struggling and its on the person managing the program.

Take a garner at any squad who has managed to get out of the malaise of be perpetual bottom four. You'll always see at some point in the couple of years prior, the club dismantles their current off-field, gets better people in and within 1-2 years, results follow. Brisbane with Noble, Austin and Fagan (2015-2016, looking good come 2019, though they probably should have had a better 2018). Saints are looking good now after an upheaval. Gold Coast too and they've been through it in the last few years etc. Even look at the other way, there are a lot of questionable hires and a talent drain off-field with sides in the lead-up with a collapse. Adelaide have it with Burton and Hass.

The team I watched is 0-10 and got absolutely boat raced by squads in the bottom 4.

Three years ago appears to have aged some of the vets in dog years.

The overvaluation of draft picks is apparent this year...and you do not need to be a Brownlow medalist to see it.

So we definitely will disagree on the current squads talent level—all day

Yup. It did and it did by having a much more talented squad then a lot of the dross around us (except Sydney). After all, you either have talent or you don't and there are a lot of proven players there.

Naturally, a bad system will do that to players. After all, if you cook a fitness program, that 26 should be a blue chip midfielder will end up looking like a geriatric, the skills of a 28 who has a history of excellent skills will falter due to fatigue etc.

Though, I do agree, draft picks are overrated. It only takes a quick look at how number 1 picks fare to know there is a real disconnect between the hope it generates and reality.

Remember, Gold Coast for all its riches of talent (on top of having the best player in the league) failed a rebuild to the point they were only in the top 8 for six weeks. If you ever wanted a smoking gun for how little talent actually matters at the bottom end of the table, they really are it. We are well on our way to joining them as another sobering reminder of that, after all, you'd be hard-pressed to find such a rapid fall from a lost grand final to non-competitive.

 

[cleanhands]

Enjoyed that game.

Dislike Richmond even more.

This is the first time I have thought all year they may win the Premiership.

And good on em.


We had our chance, our players choked. No point being bitter about Port having a crack.


Would rather them than Richmond.

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Should have stopped at least he first sentence

 

[ABAB]

Will be hilarious to watch the backflips (on both boards) if they happen to win it this year

Seriously, Hinkley can't coach, he is doing well this year because he has competent senior assistance coach around him. If he win this asterisk premiership, he will want more than 2 years contract extension you would think......

 

[Geoffa32]

Agree it was a cracking game.

West Coast from Brisbane for me...

Oh yeah those two also contenders.

Would love Brisbane to win. Them and Hawthorn my "second" teams.

As far as such a thing exists....

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[ABAB]

Enjoyed that game.

Dislike Richmond even more.

This is the first time I have thought all year they may win the Premiership.

And good on em.


We had our chance, our players choked. No point being bitter about Port having a crack.


Would rather them than Richmond.

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3 days break and ran out of legs in the last quarter, they have a handful of very important players out so they are my bet to win the premiership this year.....but who cares about 2020, this year will be remember for only one thing and that ain't footbal.

 

[ABAB]

This could be the worst year on record.

I think you mean worst year* on record.

 

[FR0GGY]

3 days break and ran out of legs in the last quarter, they have a handful of very important players out so they are my bet to win the premiership this year.....but who cares about 2020, this year will be remember for only one thing and that ain't footbal.

You can say that all you like, but it will be in the books and no one will know any different in 20 years time

 

[eathb]

Richmond's reserve side really pushed the Power hard tonight. At least 6 of the Tigers players out there today, will never see a final bar injury.

Well done Port you deserve to be sipping the toilet water of Alberton tonight and getting drunk.

Port are missing a fair chunk of their best 22 as well?

 

[ABAB]

You can say that all you like, but it will be in the books and no one will know any different in 20 years time

Why not, they will see a 17 game regular season and say WTF and Port Power's Home Showdown only had less than 2000 crowd.