Free Agent # 6: Joe Daniher - derp Brisbane player

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Mr Mojo Risin said:
He played 4 games in 3 weeks which is 4 games in a row in a normal season (or close enough if you count 23 days from first to last of the 4 games).

Again, I get why people are hesitant to believe it. My point is there is no evidence that he is not over it.
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All I know is the program he has been on is all about managing the problem and not actually fixing it. They have put together a program that works on strengthening other areas to compensate for the injured area. All the comments from his specialist in Ireland where about management and not cure.
From the outside looking in my opinion is if everything goes okay he should be able to play at a decent level. He will never be the player he looked like he was going to be and I say that on the back of no players in history has ever missed close to 3 years through injury and ended up being as good or as good as the potential they showed.
Given it is a management based program there may well have to be rest weeks and there are chances it may go wrong. OP is not a great injury for anyone but it is worse for players who rely on their spring and pace of the mark. I remember Hird talking about his groin injury in the 2001 GF. He said he just had now power off the mark or in his kicking and he felt like he had lead boots on.
 
Zach Package said:
If you’re Brisbane you surely just bump your offer to band 1 knowing it probably gets it done on day one and get it over with.

If it’s a trade I’d offer to take on any contract they don’t like to help clear space as an add on.
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I can imagine AFL HQ liking the idea of a strong lions team and not wanting them to lose any picks while still getting what could be marquee player if he stays fit. This should be straightforward. Though it might be a case of the unstoppable force (their desire for a team in QLD to do well) vs the immovable object (their love of ****ing us over).
 
ant555 said:
All I know is the program he has been on is all about managing the problem and not actually fixing it. They have put together a program that works on strengthening other areas to compensate for the injured area. All the comments from his specialist in Ireland where about management and not cure.
From the outside looking in my opinion is if everything goes okay he should be able to play at a decent level. He will never be the player he looked like he was going to be and I say that on the back of no players in history has ever missed close to 3 years through injury and ended up being as good or as good as the potential they showed.
Given it is a management based program there may well have to be rest weeks and there are chances it may go wrong. OP is not a great injury for anyone but it is worse for players who rely on their spring and pace of the mark. I remember Hird talking about his groin injury in the 2001 GF. He said he just had now power off the mark or in his kicking and he felt like he had lead boots on.
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Wonder when Woosha said Joe will tell us when he’s ready was part of Joe’s plan to play just last month to show he’s still got something but not enough games to not push it? His field kicking was ok when he got back but never really let go at any stage, probably managing it
 

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ant555 said:
All I know is the program he has been on is all about managing the problem and not actually fixing it. They have put together a program that works on strengthening other areas to compensate for the injured area. All the comments from his specialist in Ireland where about management and not cure.
From the outside looking in my opinion is if everything goes okay he should be able to play at a decent level. He will never be the player he looked like he was going to be and I say that on the back of no players in history has ever missed close to 3 years through injury and ended up being as good or as good as the potential they showed.
Given it is a management based program there may well have to be rest weeks and there are chances it may go wrong. OP is not a great injury for anyone but it is worse for players who rely on their spring and pace of the mark. I remember Hird talking about his groin injury in the 2001 GF. He said he just had now power off the mark or in his kicking and he felt like he had lead boots on.
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Not that it discounts your point but Hird would be close. Only played 22 games between 97-99 compared to Daniher's 15 in the last 3 seasons. Off injured early in at least a couple of those too. Though you could also argue he could have been even better.
 
Darealrath said:
Not that it discounts your point but Hird would be close. Only played 22 games between 97-99 compared to Daniher's 15 in the last 3 seasons. Off injured early in at least a couple of those too. Though you could also argue he could have been even better.
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True.
 
Mikevk123 said:
Take the band 2 and run. Dodoro better not screw this up more than he has..
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On the contrary, I hope AD goes into full jackets mode, scrapes as many good picks for decent departing players as he can, then trades a heap for 2021 picks.

EFC then thanks him for his services and gives the incoming list manager a bounty of early picks to reshape this list.
 
Be interesting to see if the move pays off for him. Can think of a couple of talls that moved to clubs in pretty strong positions that enjoyed premiership success (Lynch and Boyd) and plenty that haven't over the years. I remember thinking Sydney would be a sure thing when they took Franklin and Tippett. Doesn't always turn out that way of course.

Either way I'm looking forward to seeing how he plays in front of his old home crowd. Will he get Smokey's welcome home or not that level?
 
CBombers17 said:
Be interesting to see if the move pays off for him. Can think of a couple of talls that moved to clubs in pretty strong positions that enjoyed premiership success (Lynch and Boyd) and plenty that haven't over the years. I remember thinking Sydney would be a sure thing when they took Franklin and Tippett. Doesn't always turn out that way of course.

Either way I'm looking forward to seeing how he plays in front of his old home crowd. Will he get Smokey's welcome home or not that level?
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He will be booed for sure.
 
Cant say id be happy to see him winning finals with Brisbane. Prefer he sees no future success. I wont be booing him though. If he does get a flag with Brissy it'll mean little to me apart from him jumping on the bandwagon of a good side. He was given the responsibility and cash to be the man at Essendon and he folded. Didn't put the work in on his body or his goal kicking, and you could argue but never prove that he doesn't have the mental strength to make a side great. Made a pact with his best mate and then bailed when it looked like it was going to be hard work. Has all the talent in the world though.
 
DallasCrane316 said:
With the talk about Witherden potentially wanting to come to us, it may be as simple as a late first rounder plus him for Joey.
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What talk? Any sources to this?

Also, our club has stated that we won't trade for him. I don't know why anyone in here would believe in the contrary. Either take the band 2 pick, or lose him in the draft. We're already a top 4 club, and we don't need him as much as you think we do.
 

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youneverknow22 said:
What talk? Any sources to this?

Also, our club has stated that we won't trade for him. I don't know why anyone in here would believe in the contrary. Either take the band 2 pick, or lose him in the draft. We're already a top 4 club, and we don't need him as much as you think we do.
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Thanks mate.
Glad you stopped by.
 
youneverknow22 said:
What talk? Any sources to this?

Also, our club has stated that we won't trade for him. I don't know why anyone in here would believe in the contrary. Either take the band 2 pick, or lose him in the draft. We're already a top 4 club, and we don't need him as much as you think we do.
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We dont think you need him. Your club wants him. A lot is said by clubs in the lead up to trade week that doesnt eventuate. No way Brisbane have committed to Joe without considering a matched bid. As you said, you're a top 4 team, a chance for a flag. If you want to top up with another gun key forward, i wouldnt think a late 1st and fringe player will mean much to your teams list management.
 
Bjchan13 said:
We dont think you need him. Your club wants him. A lot is said by clubs in the lead up to trade week that doesnt eventuate. No way Brisbane have committed to Joe without considering a matched bid. As you said, you're a top 4 team, a chance for a flag. If you want to top up with another gun key forward, i wouldnt think a late 1st and fringe player will mean much to your teams list management.
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The problem with that is our club wants daniher if no trade or wage increase are involved. If Essendon insists on us raising his wage to net you a band 1 compensation, or asks us to trade for him, then his value would likely be diminished.
 
youneverknow22 said:
The problem with that is our club wants daniher if no trade or wage increase are involved. If Essendon insists on us raising his wage to net you a band 1 compensation, or asks us to trade for him, then his value would likely be diminished.
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Thanks for stopping by.
 
Will only have to watch him once a year and if it’s at the Gabba it won’t be live anyway. I can handle that
 
youneverknow22 said:
What talk? Any sources to this?

Also, our club has stated that we won't trade for him. I don't know why anyone in here would believe in the contrary. Either take the band 2 pick, or lose him in the draft. We're already a top 4 club, and we don't need him as much as you think we do.
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imagine courting a player, meeting him, selling the hope of the club to a player and then not getting it done?


This isn't 2004 anymore. Joe will get to where he wants to go
 
Bjchan13 said:
Id be fine with this. Would like Ely Smith to be involved somehow. Wonder if we've approached his management.
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Brisbane posters previously said that Ely was a bust.
 
youneverknow22 said:
I'm not trying being antogonist. I'm only stating the truth. Our club is on record stating they won't trade for daniher, so I don't know why you guys keep suggesting it will happen.
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I mean it's not like clubs posture regarding player trades/FA......
 
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