De Goey and Howe to face match bans for in Game Phone use?

[CheapCharlie]

De Goey and Howe to face game bans for using their phones during the West coast match?

Does it matter f they use their phones, once injured, to inform a few friends and family? Surely all the viewing public can see they are injured

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[Demonic Ascent]

It's not about whether they are telling people they are injured - they could be offering inside info on other aspects of the team as happened with Collingwood I believe a few years back (someone letting their mates in on a player starting forward so putting bets on for 1st goal).

There's a reason phone use is banned in game, regardless of whether a player is injured. Even runners and other club officials are banned from using mobiles.

 

[Handsuper47]

I've got no doubt in my mind they were probably using their phones to contact family/friends, although I do think they should be punished because it opens the door for players to get information on the game they wouldn't have had otherwise - and if any of said players using their phones has a gambling problem there's another can of worms.

 

[Taylor]

If the act of using the phone was banned they will be in trouble, which it is.

That the difference in use of the phone can range from 'calling mum to let her know you're ok' which gets you a fine and 'calling your overseas bookie to let him know the change in team plans now two key players are out of the game' which gets you a life ban - would be messy.

They like their rules easy to enforce, so having degrees between zero and career over is complicated and time consuming, I expect they will side with their gambling partners and protect the integrity of the game by taking a firm stand and giving them a suspended fine with a match suspension equal to the number of games they are expected to miss through injury.

 

[Underarm]

De Goey and Howe to face game bans for using their phones during the West coast match?

Does it matter f they use their phones, once injured, to inform a few friends and family? Surely all the viewing public can see they are injured

BARRETT: Blues' empty promises wear thin, Pies must explain

Another season of empty promises looms for Carlton, while Collingwood has some serious explaining to do

www.afl.com.au

"Hey Jaiden! How's it going! Darce is staying in the forward line, If you're interested. Darling a monty for 5 #loadup #GambleResponsibly"

 

[Morris Major]

With some of the comments around this, you'd think they were the first footy players in history to get injured and need to tell friends and family about it.

 

[kaiserchief13]

How many times in the past has it happened with players but no cameras on them? Did the players honestly not know they aren't allowed?

 

[Taylor]

How many times in the past has it happened with players but no cameras on them? Did the players honestly not know they aren't allowed?

It's on a sign on the door going into the restricted zones. A big circle with a line through it that has a mobile phone inside.

 

[HTT]

Seems a bit pointless to put match bans on players who are already injured, unless we are talking huge suspensions which I doubt will be in order. Surely financial sanctions for whoever is deemed at fault are more appropriate.

 

[kane249]

With some of the comments around this, you'd think they were the first footy players in history to get injured and need to tell friends and family about it.

There is 10 club officials who are permitted to use mobiles during game days.

If they followed protocol, one of them could have passed the message on behalf of DeGoey/Howe

 

[kane249]

Eagles were fined $5k back in 2010 when Dean Cox

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and Nic Naitanui used a mobile on field at 3/4 time to call then ruck coach Simon Eastaugh

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who was back in Perth.

Eagles fined for phone breach

A mobile phone call from ruck coach Simon Eastaugh to West Coast big men Dean Cox and Nic Naitanui has cost the Eagles $5000

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Expect a similar financial sanction for the Pies, talk of missing matches is ludicrous.

 

[74561347]

possibly the worst thing anyone in football has EVER done in the history of the game EVER

absolutely needs the biggest punishment ever handed down

ban these players for life

then take them out the back of AFL HQ put them up against the wall and shoot them

OH NO A PHONE GOT TOUCHED OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG LETS TOTALLY OVERREACT

 

[Dazb86]

I have it on good authority DeGoey was using ubereats at the time. Nothing in it but probably should be a small fine.

 

[Pear1870]

Nothing will happen, for the following two reasons.

1. Collingwood
2. Collingwood

 

[Olian]

Deserve a fine as they would be aware of the phone rules.

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

Each team has a member of staff who will contact the players family in the instance they’re injured during a game. That excuse doesn’t cut it.

 

[Toump Ass]

With some of the comments around this, you'd think they were the first footy players in history to get injured and need to tell friends and family about it.

Why would they need to tell their friends and family about it? It was live on TV.

 

[hawkman]

Probably should be traded to Hawthorn or North as punishment

 

[Toump Ass]

Maybe the players shouldn't be fined. The club is responsible for taking the phones from the players and locking them away so they cannot be accessed.
Someone at the club has given De Goey and Howe their phones.
Collingwood should be investigated to see if they have done this before and be fined a substantial amount.
After the Stepho incident I think draft penalties should be enacted.

Welcome to North Melbourne, Nick Daicos!

 

[Testekill]

I think the club itself will be fined and it'll probably be investigated to see who they'd called and if any information was passed on outside of "yeah doctor says that it's not too bad but I'm not going back on tonight"

 

[Malifice]

Honestly couldn't believe it when I saw it.

The AFL are super strict on this from an integrity standpoint. Screwing this up threatens literally hundreds of millions in betting revenue. All players (and staff) are well aware of the protocols for mobile phones - they get locked away in a box pre game as the players (and staff) enter, and are not allowed to be used till after the game has concluded. Every team has a list of 10 approved people who can have them. There are signs up literally everywhere in the rooms as you enter.

After Stephenson and Shaws gambling indiscretions, no team would know this better than Collingwood.

Only excuse is that the Pies officials must have assumed that as the game was effectively over for both players, that it was OK to give them back their phones (or the boys smuggled in their phones despite the protocols in place).

It's going to be a hefty club fine (5 figures), plus fines for each of the players at least.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

It's on a sign on the door going into the restricted zones. A big circle with a line through it that has a mobile phone inside.

Nobody ever accused Jordan DeGoey of being smart enough to understand a sign, but Howe not getting it too kind of surprises me for some reason.

 

[Pusswah]

They know what the rules are, they can go get ****ed.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I’d ban them for a couple of weeks.

It sends a message but really, doesn’t affect them as they’ll be out injured anyway.

 

[Linda Lovelace]

Another embarrassing incident and the club needs to be fined.

But people need to calm down. If Howe and DeGoey were desperately calling their bookies, then the AFL would be able to bust them pretty easily.

Remember that banning phones is just extra protection against match fixing/gambling. The main deterrents remain the damage to career, reputation and even legal problems. Even under this system, it's clear that all it would take to get around it is have a club official to be in on it. So it's illogical to immediately leap to the conclusion that person on phone = something nefarious.

So if the AFL investigates and there is no reason to suspect they were doing anything nefarious (which an investigation should easily be able to identify), then we are only talking about a breach of protocol, which needs to be treated seriously but not hysterically.