For me to come home, its nearly 3K for a one way flight, and another 3K for hotel quarantine, even though I'm fully vaccinated. Not even remotely worth considering.
Victorian Covid Outbreak 2021
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Maybe 'you' instead of 'we' as I have an inkling Dan and Brett will be just fine.
The Chairman pushing for zero cases before lockdown lifts
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Andrews' salary is $452K ++. He is the highest paid state leader in Australia. Not bad for someone who is a career politician who has never held a job in the commercial sector
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Once having told us lockdown is extended, as very little as possible. He's probably still banging on...
You should be in comms.
So give me a number of deaths from Covid you will accept.
Obviously 800 influenza deaths a year was acceptable to you because I didn’t see anyone calling for lockdowns.
So we know the number is greater than 800 a year, how much greater?
Better question is why are you unable to grasp the concept of exponential growth after 18 months of a pandemic?
R of delta variant is 5
4 cases in one generation is 20 in the next. 100 in the third. 500 in the fourth. I can keep going if you want?
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easy to say when you havent lost a loved one
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I’m not an epidemiologist or a health expert.
By asking questions of someone’s judgement on BigFooty, it’s not going to change the situation.
I have faith that the health experts have our health in their best interest, whatever that number may be.
So critical thinking is left at the door and you take direction from career bureaucrats and university professors. Awesome.
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If your definition of “critical thinking” is listening to Sky News, reading Facebook posts & YouTube videos and repeating the same straw man arguments repeatedly—- then I’d trust Health officers who have spent their lives understanding health issues than conspiracy theory loonies on BigFooty
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So when Brett Sutton flippantly said last night that "we will probably never beat the Delta strain" you're happy with the implications of that statement? i.e., recurring lockdowns until we reach, what is it, 80% vaccinated? I don't know what aspect of health you are talking about, but there is one that Sutton is completely ignoring and that is mental health. I have a relative who is a psychologist and is completely swept off her feet and fully expects things to get worse before they get better.
Lol. You’re still arguing with the flu guys.
Senor M
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What did I say above about the "same straw man arguments repeatedly"
You've mentioned this a dozen times now between multiple threads, despite evidence being provided to you repeatedly that the Victorian government has invested over $800 million into mental health support in the past 12 months. Mental health issues have increased in the past 18 months and the government is supporting those people.
But I've said above & I'll say it again-- I trust Brett Sutton more than I trust the conspiracy theories on BigFooty.
The alternative is allowing BigFooty to become a hive for these alternative conspiracy theory views. The views of these fools are dangerous if people listen to them. If mods won't remove these views, I need to point out how inaccurate they are.
Senor M
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Nope.
I'm in lockdown--- I've got spare time.
If conspiracy theorists are allowed to rant, aren't I allowed to correct them?
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i agree with this statement. personally i feel my degree in design makes me fully qualified to contradict the advice from medical professionals with decades of experience.
Correct away. I’ll just warn you they are a persistent bunch.
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As I said-- I'm in lockdown & got the spare time.
I'd prefer that readers of BigFooty see both sides.
Ok cool. Both sides as in conspiracy theories vs …….
Senor M
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Understanding & following expert health advice.
How difficult is it to trust the experts rather than rant repeatedly about the flu, Florida, Trump, PCR tests, etc.
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yeah theres not really 2 sides. just having an opinion doesnt make it valid for consideration.
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Adelaide and Port on the next plane out of Adelaide. Both games will now be in Melbourne.
Sorry, but you're not putting together a decent argument at all.
Firstly, the WHO's stats on flu deaths are for 'flu related deaths'. So of the estimated 300,000 - 650,000 'flu deaths' every year, it's probable that many 'died with the flu' rather than from it, as such.
Secondly, are you seriously not clear on why states are locking down?
They're locking down because their belief is that our economy and health system can't function whilst COVID is rampant in the community. Also, people lots of people will get sick and die.
You can't manage case numbers without lockdowns. They go up exponentially. And then very quickly, it's rampant in the community.
You can't argue against lockdowns as the only way to prevent the virus from taking over. You just can't. There is no other way.
The only thing that you can argue, is whether you want it running rampant and all of the implications of that - or if you dont. If you don't, then periodic lockdowns is the only way.
