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Or can tell him exactly how it is and how he needs to dramatically improve as a leader of the club.
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Rantall did a good job restricting Parish to only 21 disposals, half of what he got on Anzac Day.
A small positive we can take out of this game.
A small positive we can take out of this game.
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Essendon kept possession the whole play, tackles have to force a turnover or stoppage iirc
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The only people happy about Collingwoods season are The Media and that Henrietta lady
Pies have a shit load of positives.
Pies have a shit load of positives.
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Rantall barely touched it, but he was actually really clean when he did. First time I'd seen anything in him.
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8 disposals @ 100% while limiting their best midfielder to 21, his lowest all season I imagine. We'd probably take that.
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I've seen very little of him, but his ball handling looked really sure. Is he usually very clean with his handling?
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In the final game of the 2021 season, Collingwood concluded its tumultuous campaign in the meekest of fashions and manners, as Essendon consigned the Magpies to a losing margin of 38 points. The Bombers set up a defensive grid across half-forward where they were able to take intercept marks when the Woods attempted to generate rebound from the back pocket or half-back with reduced options and easy exits from defence on offer. Essendon were able to create numerous goals from turnovers, due to Collingwood's inability to safely exit D50 through to their midfield or forward arc, or had established players making several skill errors in the midfield that allowed the Dons to dine out on the scoreboard, and were incredibly accurate despite Collingwood having a similar number of scoring shots. The Bombers had 22 scoring shots for 16 majors, while the Pies had 19 scoring shots for just 9 majors. In a nutshell, a combination of simple skill errors and lack of quality rebound from defence under pressure from the Magpies resulted in Essendon bombing Collingwood away with a number of very easy goals that could not be defended. The lack of pressure from Collingwood also meant that they could not match the volume of scoring from turnovers as the Bombers were able to produce, which was extremely decisive in determining the outcome of this game.
Collingwood's statistical categories were won from contested possessions by +4 (116 - 112), hit-outs were won by +3 (27 - 24), clearances had an advantage of +4 (30 - 26), while centre clearances were up by +5 (15 - 10). They were the only categories that the Magpies won, and that was all she wrote for the 2021 season. Essendon took command of the remaining categories ranging from disposals by +42 (392 - 350), to kicks by +27 (233 - 206), +15 for handballs (159 - 144), while uncontested possessions had a differential of +34 (276 - 242), and +5 for intercept possessions (67 - 62). Stoppage clearances were narrowly won by +1 (16 - 15), uncontested marks were up by +6 (107 - 101), +4 for Contested Marks (14 - 10), with Marks Inside 50 won by +4 (17 - 13). Tackles were won by +5 (45 - 40), with a proportionately high number of Tackles Inside 50, which had a margin of +10 (14 - 4). Inside 50s had a differential of +9 (54 - 45), which allowed the Bombers more opportunities to lock the ball in their forward 50 arc with a high level of pressure, and ultimately displayed enough class in front of goal to outclass a depleted and highly inexperienced Collingwood outfit that limped to the finish line without any impetus to compete for a victory.
Taylor Adams (31 disposals @ 64%, 442 metres gained, 15 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 19 kicks, 12 handballs, 6 marks, 6 tackles, 6 score involvements, 10 clearances, 7 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) did everything he could to help his team compete, but he had very little assistance. Adams also struggled to hit simple targets, which proved to be contagious for the whole team. Effort levels from Adams are never questioned, his ball use remains a significant weakness when he is not under pressure, or has time and space to use it.
Jordan De Goey (23 disposals @ 74%, 475 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 16 kicks, 7 handballs, 8 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 2 clearances, 6 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) maximised as much attacking damage from his possessions as possible, but could not impact the contest directly for himself, nor his team.
Steele Sidebottom (22 disposals @ 82%, 229 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 12 kicks, 10 handballs, 8 marks, 3 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) presented as a marking option from the midfield without fail, yet some of his skill execution was well off the mark for a player of his capability.
Josh Daicos (17 disposals @ 71%, 261 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) was serviceable on a wing without being influential. Won enough possessions to give his team an option between the arcs.
Chris Mayne (23 disposals @ 100%, 134 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 11 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 17 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements & 2 Rebound 50s) defended with grit and determination in his last AFL game. Mayne looked to take the safe and easy option on the way out without losing possession of the footy or turning it over.
Jeremy Howe (20 disposals @ 70%, 268 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 8 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 3 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) had a difficult assignment as the club's acting captain, where he and his teammates were under siege at every opportunity, and Howe did what he could do to minimise the damage, despite being guilty of creating clangers that could have been avoided and prevented.
Jack Crisp (19 disposals @ 90%, 335 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 4 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) competed well defensively, while having stints in the midfield to give his side some direction which was sorely lacking.
John Noble (18 disposals @ 67%, 297 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 7 handballs, 6 marks, 2 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) had one of his worst games in a while, where he succumbed to the overriding pressure that Essendon put on him by turning the ball over rather frequently, which is not what we've come to expect from him.
Jack Madgen (17 disposals @ 82%, 228 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 7 handballs, 8 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 4 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) was Collingwood's most assured defender on an otherwise grim afternoon for the whole team. Madgen backed himself in confidently to take his marks, and did not turn any of his possessions over in what was his most impressive game at AFL level for the season.
Jamie Elliott (18 disposals @ 67%, 284 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 15 kicks, 3 handballs, 8 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 4 goals) was easily Collingwood's best forward on a day where supply did not arrive or come easily. Elliott was able to display his accuracy in front of goal, but everything fell by the wayside when he went into the midfield, where a number of his possessions in that division did not hit many targets. Additionally, Elliott had an opportunity in the dying seconds of the season to boot his 200th goal. His left foot snap got touched by the man on the mark despite sailing between the big sticks, which would've also been his 5th goal. Looking forward to watching you get to 200 goals in 2022, Billy!
Trent Bianco (17 disposals @ 59%, 231 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 6 handballs, 5 marks, 4 score involvements & 2 Inside 50s) stayed relatively active and busy across half-forward, where he pushed higher up the ground just to win his possessions and create scoring opportunities.
Josh Thomas (16 disposals @ 62%, 202 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 7 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 4 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) did not have the greatest of games. His marking was adequate, but there was one inexcusable moment from Thomas which left me livid. His shot for his second goal went through but got touched by the man on the mark at the point of impact. Thomas may have played his last AFL game for the Magpies.
Darcy Cameron (14 disposals @ 71%, 136 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 4 hit-outs, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 9 marks, 3 Contested Marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) provided a marking target up forward where he had periods of success aerially without being a dominant scoring threat.
There we have it for another season! Collingwood's worst ranking ever in its history by finishing 17th, an occurrence that I don't want to read ever again. Plenty of list management discussions will be had, the coaching position will hopefully be decided next month, and all of the club's energy and planning will be on ensuring the arrival of Nick Daicos in November. From there, the Magpies will look at making immediate inroads towards returning to finals action as soon as possible. 2022 will be about planning for a resurgent charge towards contention for finals. Only from that point forward, will the Magpies ask themselves how far away from premiership contention they will be in the coming years.
Collingwood's statistical categories were won from contested possessions by +4 (116 - 112), hit-outs were won by +3 (27 - 24), clearances had an advantage of +4 (30 - 26), while centre clearances were up by +5 (15 - 10). They were the only categories that the Magpies won, and that was all she wrote for the 2021 season. Essendon took command of the remaining categories ranging from disposals by +42 (392 - 350), to kicks by +27 (233 - 206), +15 for handballs (159 - 144), while uncontested possessions had a differential of +34 (276 - 242), and +5 for intercept possessions (67 - 62). Stoppage clearances were narrowly won by +1 (16 - 15), uncontested marks were up by +6 (107 - 101), +4 for Contested Marks (14 - 10), with Marks Inside 50 won by +4 (17 - 13). Tackles were won by +5 (45 - 40), with a proportionately high number of Tackles Inside 50, which had a margin of +10 (14 - 4). Inside 50s had a differential of +9 (54 - 45), which allowed the Bombers more opportunities to lock the ball in their forward 50 arc with a high level of pressure, and ultimately displayed enough class in front of goal to outclass a depleted and highly inexperienced Collingwood outfit that limped to the finish line without any impetus to compete for a victory.
Taylor Adams (31 disposals @ 64%, 442 metres gained, 15 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 19 kicks, 12 handballs, 6 marks, 6 tackles, 6 score involvements, 10 clearances, 7 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) did everything he could to help his team compete, but he had very little assistance. Adams also struggled to hit simple targets, which proved to be contagious for the whole team. Effort levels from Adams are never questioned, his ball use remains a significant weakness when he is not under pressure, or has time and space to use it.
Jordan De Goey (23 disposals @ 74%, 475 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 16 kicks, 7 handballs, 8 marks, 4 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 2 clearances, 6 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) maximised as much attacking damage from his possessions as possible, but could not impact the contest directly for himself, nor his team.
Steele Sidebottom (22 disposals @ 82%, 229 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 12 kicks, 10 handballs, 8 marks, 3 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) presented as a marking option from the midfield without fail, yet some of his skill execution was well off the mark for a player of his capability.
Josh Daicos (17 disposals @ 71%, 261 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) was serviceable on a wing without being influential. Won enough possessions to give his team an option between the arcs.
Chris Mayne (23 disposals @ 100%, 134 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 11 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 17 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements & 2 Rebound 50s) defended with grit and determination in his last AFL game. Mayne looked to take the safe and easy option on the way out without losing possession of the footy or turning it over.
Jeremy Howe (20 disposals @ 70%, 268 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 8 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 3 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) had a difficult assignment as the club's acting captain, where he and his teammates were under siege at every opportunity, and Howe did what he could do to minimise the damage, despite being guilty of creating clangers that could have been avoided and prevented.
Jack Crisp (19 disposals @ 90%, 335 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 4 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) competed well defensively, while having stints in the midfield to give his side some direction which was sorely lacking.
John Noble (18 disposals @ 67%, 297 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 7 handballs, 6 marks, 2 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) had one of his worst games in a while, where he succumbed to the overriding pressure that Essendon put on him by turning the ball over rather frequently, which is not what we've come to expect from him.
Jack Madgen (17 disposals @ 82%, 228 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 7 handballs, 8 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 4 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) was Collingwood's most assured defender on an otherwise grim afternoon for the whole team. Madgen backed himself in confidently to take his marks, and did not turn any of his possessions over in what was his most impressive game at AFL level for the season.
Jamie Elliott (18 disposals @ 67%, 284 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 15 kicks, 3 handballs, 8 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s & 4 goals) was easily Collingwood's best forward on a day where supply did not arrive or come easily. Elliott was able to display his accuracy in front of goal, but everything fell by the wayside when he went into the midfield, where a number of his possessions in that division did not hit many targets. Additionally, Elliott had an opportunity in the dying seconds of the season to boot his 200th goal. His left foot snap got touched by the man on the mark despite sailing between the big sticks, which would've also been his 5th goal. Looking forward to watching you get to 200 goals in 2022, Billy!
Trent Bianco (17 disposals @ 59%, 231 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 6 handballs, 5 marks, 4 score involvements & 2 Inside 50s) stayed relatively active and busy across half-forward, where he pushed higher up the ground just to win his possessions and create scoring opportunities.
Josh Thomas (16 disposals @ 62%, 202 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 7 handballs, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 4 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) did not have the greatest of games. His marking was adequate, but there was one inexcusable moment from Thomas which left me livid. His shot for his second goal went through but got touched by the man on the mark at the point of impact. Thomas may have played his last AFL game for the Magpies.
Darcy Cameron (14 disposals @ 71%, 136 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 4 hit-outs, 9 kicks, 5 handballs, 9 marks, 3 Contested Marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) provided a marking target up forward where he had periods of success aerially without being a dominant scoring threat.
There we have it for another season! Collingwood's worst ranking ever in its history by finishing 17th, an occurrence that I don't want to read ever again. Plenty of list management discussions will be had, the coaching position will hopefully be decided next month, and all of the club's energy and planning will be on ensuring the arrival of Nick Daicos in November. From there, the Magpies will look at making immediate inroads towards returning to finals action as soon as possible. 2022 will be about planning for a resurgent charge towards contention for finals. Only from that point forward, will the Magpies ask themselves how far away from premiership contention they will be in the coming years.
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He is known to have good and clean hands. I think this was quite evident in his games in the VFL this season.
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Nope, it’s *checks notes* definitely finished for us.
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Hasn’t been mentioned but Wilson is a positive for me. Probably our best vfl player by the end of the season and looked clean and composed when he go it yesterday. From where he started the season I think he improved out of site and one I’d persist with
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For the entire season, we managed to score 100 points once. That’s right once when we managed 106 points against Carlton.
So for all Harvey’s more attacking ball movement, using the corridor, it did not translate to the scoreboard during his brief tenure.
That is the first area that needs to be addressed. The only marking forwards that know what they are doing are Elliott and Henry. The lack of key forwards on our list should be enough to say bye bye to Derek Hine.
Sidebottom should be no where near the leadership group (If he is lucky to stay). He thinks he is better than what he actually is. The new coach needs to hit him with a dose of reality. You are an average player now a days that picks and chooses when they want to compete.
Maynard - GW hopefully will not overpay to keep him. Might be a good time to cash him in with Adelaide. Really butchered the ball a few times yesterday.
Darcy Cameron. His half ok game for the month.
De Goey - Would love him to demand to be in the leadership group. Has the most natural talent and needs to build on this mini platform he has built.
Noble - disposal not good enough. Bye bye.
Grundy - 3 disposals in the second half with 1 mark for the whole game. People want to compare stats with Gawn and Grundy. What the stats won’t show is that one is a leader that inspires others. No further comments.
Tom Wilson - bye bye. Wasted enough time with him.
WHE - should be embarrassed. Bye bye. No further comment.
Taylor Adams - Plays with purpose and urgency but wow he slaughtered the ball by foot. Interestingly it doesn’t seem to phase him lol - he still keeps going. He often bypasses the easier option. Reckon his poor kicking might cost him the captaincy.
Mayne - Sad to see him go. Seems to be a smart footballer. On at least once occasion he was in discussions with Maynard. Our structures break down a fair bit it seems. Shame they did not move him forward and let him kick a goal.
Murphy - Was a fan as believed in his intercept marking and his courage. I have changed my mind. He lacks composure, disposal is poor. Bye bye.
Elliott - bravo. Very good game with little or no support. Unlucky not to kick a couple more goals.
So for all Harvey’s more attacking ball movement, using the corridor, it did not translate to the scoreboard during his brief tenure.
That is the first area that needs to be addressed. The only marking forwards that know what they are doing are Elliott and Henry. The lack of key forwards on our list should be enough to say bye bye to Derek Hine.
Sidebottom should be no where near the leadership group (If he is lucky to stay). He thinks he is better than what he actually is. The new coach needs to hit him with a dose of reality. You are an average player now a days that picks and chooses when they want to compete.
Maynard - GW hopefully will not overpay to keep him. Might be a good time to cash him in with Adelaide. Really butchered the ball a few times yesterday.
Darcy Cameron. His half ok game for the month.
De Goey - Would love him to demand to be in the leadership group. Has the most natural talent and needs to build on this mini platform he has built.
Noble - disposal not good enough. Bye bye.
Grundy - 3 disposals in the second half with 1 mark for the whole game. People want to compare stats with Gawn and Grundy. What the stats won’t show is that one is a leader that inspires others. No further comments.
Tom Wilson - bye bye. Wasted enough time with him.
WHE - should be embarrassed. Bye bye. No further comment.
Taylor Adams - Plays with purpose and urgency but wow he slaughtered the ball by foot. Interestingly it doesn’t seem to phase him lol - he still keeps going. He often bypasses the easier option. Reckon his poor kicking might cost him the captaincy.
Mayne - Sad to see him go. Seems to be a smart footballer. On at least once occasion he was in discussions with Maynard. Our structures break down a fair bit it seems. Shame they did not move him forward and let him kick a goal.
Murphy - Was a fan as believed in his intercept marking and his courage. I have changed my mind. He lacks composure, disposal is poor. Bye bye.
Elliott - bravo. Very good game with little or no support. Unlucky not to kick a couple more goals.
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I'd be shipping Sidebottom off for nix just to get his money off the books and banishing Adams to the back pocket (for Maynard) like we did early in his career, neither of them can be near the midfield going forward if we are going to build a classy midfield unit for the next window when Adams will be 30+ and Sidebottom retired.
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I would keep Wilson, he showed a bit of composure yesterday. Mayne, Greenwood (true warriors) Cox (was fun and frustrating at the same time) Murphy, WHE, JT, Rantall, Sier all gone. The Browns are lucky to have contracts so will be interesting to see how they go next year, the draftees this year have already shown more than those 2 have in 5 years. Hope we turn our fortunes around next season.
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I also don't how Daicos made the best players list. I thought he was pretty ordinary and rarely spotted him, though I can't say that my eyes were fixed on the game much in the second half.
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I think he is one of those players we have been to quick to overrate at this stage of his career.
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Yeah, it's one of those calls where I can't see him making any progress. I get why people hold out hope for him as he did a good job shutting down Parish. T Brown needs to turn himself into an attacking Defender or Mid sized forward, the inside mid calls never happened for him but agree if he had shoulders like Cripps he may make it. Our problem for years though has been keeping average players on our list for way too long.
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Beau is a joy to watch and should not have been the medi-sub. He is the rare pressure forward who, by setting the tone for the whole team, justifies his selection before you even look at the scoresheet.
