Current Abduction of 4yo Blowholes Shacks WA *Terence Kelly Convicted

[Kurve]

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Current - The Bunker Part 2

 

[BonzaRam]

I feel huge sympathy for the perp

look at his life

this is all assuming he didn’t touch a hair on Cleos body of course

Ummm
He abducted her, he isolated her from her family and friends. he imprisoned her within his house, he has destroyed her innocence when it comes to trusting others and we don't yet know, and may never know, the full extent of any physical harm done to her. Cleo was found clean and tidy - after almost 3 weeks - who do you think bathed her in that time? He has already gone beyond touching a hair on her body.

Cleo, at the age 4 has now been left with mental scars for life. <<< think about that...

How much more do you think he should have done before you realise that millions people have bad/horrific childhoods caused by the actions of other people and don't turn out to be child abductors and abusers?

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I mean, he had her for a while , I’m wondering if at some stage did he bath her? That’s extremely concerning. I hope he stayed his distance.

Well, it's pretty clear he was at least changing nappies so i would assume he bathed her...

He's clearly a very sick individual.

 

[Kurve]

Cleo Smith found: Alleged abductor Terence Darrell Kelly set to be transported to a Perth prison today | PerthNow

Thanks again WA police for finding Cleo.

“What the f... are the media doing here?” he asked.

Magistrate Benjamin White replied: “It’s an open court.”

He also yelled “wipe that smile off your face” while looking across at the gallery.

Mr Kelly was represented by a Geraldton Aboriginal Legal Service lawyer, who appeared via video link, and did not make a bail application on his behalf.

Mr Kelly was guarded by two police officers.

He is due to appear at Perth Magistrates Court next month.

 

[Kurve]

This should be real interesting and might give some tips on how to keep our thread running smoothly and within the legal boundaries so I'll check in.

Cleo case a legal minefield - here's what you need to know

Cleo case a legal minefield - here's what you need to know - The West Live

omny.fm

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

What are you saying, because he was from a large family, hadn't seen his father in years and raised by his grandmother he deserves sympathy? you gotta be joking, that is almost my life, never once have I considered abducting and holding captive a four year old.

Too bloody much sympathy out there for violent perpetrators that end up with reduced sentences because of the sob stories about their bad upbringing. It has to stop and people need to take responsibility for their actions and not blame others.

You can feel sympathy for a person who has clearly had a difficult upbringing (most likely contributing to this behaviour) and still think they’re a grub who needs to be locked up for life.

He’s a sick person who shouldn’t be living amongst society. With some better support earlier in life maybe this never happens. I look forward to seeing him get the maximum. I also hope he gets some help.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

We've all been distracted by some powerfully interesting side-facts.

Still doesn't explain this unbelievable child-heist from the tent. Was he following social media and planned his time to head up there and remove her? Was he already there? How the heck could he have known she was able to be taken without the parents noticing?

Despite knowing the man now, seeing the dolls, having Cleo returned safely - doesn't explain this unbelievable crime. I'd still be surprised if an SAS soldier could manage it.

Having been through Carnarvon and that northern region (Quobba, Red Bluff, Gnarloo) extensively it is nothing but a blissful oasis of peace. The carnarvon residents are warm and genteel.

It sounds dreadful.. but to have been a fly on a rock that night it all went down? Id trade half me super to know.

I still reckon he has been at the campsite a lot, plenty of practice. I agree if he did this ninja act in a one-off it’s too unbelievable

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

This should be real interesting and might give some tips on how to keep our thread running smoothly and within the legal boundaries so I'll check in.

Cleo case a legal minefield - here's what you need to know

Cleo case a legal minefield - here's what you need to know - The West Live

omny.fm

Can someone list the main points? I hate listening to stuff.
TIA

 

[zedx]

I still reckon he has been at the campsite a lot, plenty of practice. I agree if he did this ninja act in a one-off it’s too unbelievable

agree he obviously knew the camp site, but some kids are absolutely 'dead' to the world when they are asleep, you can pick them up and carry them to bed from the lounge and they dont even stir in the slightest, or put them in the car to go home and they ask you in the morning how they got there. The perp 'could' have had plenty of practice sneaking around for what ever reason, so this could have played out quite easily IMO.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

I mean, he had her for a while , I’m wondering if at some stage did he bath her? That’s extremely concerning. I hope he stayed his distance.

Leaving aside the illegality and the sheer bizarreness of it all, I honestly think he wanted to look after her to the best of his ability. She was his live doll. He kept her clean and fed. But he must have known he'd done the wrong thing and would have been scared too.

It would be hard for the parents not to speak of it to her. They must have a thousand questions they'd like answers to.

The child seems happy to be back and not traumatised (although we've only seen her briefly).

So much to unpack.

 

[Kurve]

Might be a clue as to how they did it.

 

[Kurve]

He's already been transported to hospital twice. I think this guy might know a few tricks.


The man accused of abducting little Cleo Smith has caused more issues in custody overnight - as trained riot squad prison guards prepare to take him to a Perth prison.

Terry Kelly, 36, appeared in court late Thursday charged over the alleged crime which has shocked Australia.

In a brief court appearance, Mr Kelly was belligerent and at times abusive towards gathered media.

And having already been transported to hospital twice since his arrest - after self harming why hitting his head against a wall in his cell - Mr Kelly was again disruptive on Thursday night.

That will mean there will be extra protective measures during his transport by plane today.

That plane, a charter Cessna 441, brought four Special Operations Group officers to Carnarvon on Friday morning.

Their job will be to escort Kelly onto the plane at one end and then into prison at the other.

How the escort of Cleo’s kidnap accused played out

‘Thank God he’s gone.’ That was the reaction of one senior police officer as Terence Darrell Kelly – the man accused of abducting little Cleo Smith – flew out of Carnarvon on Friday.

thewest.com.au

 

[Collie_wobbles]

Being taken and removed from one's family is a significantly traumatic event for any child. It disrupts their entire world.

Children are dependent on their families and attachment figures for their sense of security and support. Sudden loss of these important relationships can result in fear, a sense of abandonment and confusion. Children left alone can become withdrawn and depressed and have little understanding of why this has happened to them.

In the wake of Cleo Smith's rescue, we all need to be careful not to add to her trauma

The miraculous rescue of four-year-old Cleo Smith prompted a nationwide sigh of relief this week. Now it's time to ensure the aftermath of the ordeal doesn't add to her trauma, writes Louise Newman.

www.abc.net.au

 

[BFew]

He kept her clean and fed

We just don't know that she was kept clean and fed for all of the 18 days.

 

[BFew]

Lead story in the West online now.
Having issues with his left eye, or winking at the photographer?

 

[Torree]

He's already been transported to hospital twice. I think this guy might know a few tricks.


The man accused of abducting little Cleo Smith has caused more issues in custody overnight - as trained riot squad prison guards prepare to take him to a Perth prison.

Terry Kelly, 36, appeared in court late Thursday charged over the alleged crime which has shocked Australia.

In a brief court appearance, Mr Kelly was belligerent and at times abusive towards gathered media.

And having already been transported to hospital twice since his arrest - after self harming why hitting his head against a wall in his cell - Mr Kelly was again disruptive on Thursday night.

That will mean there will be extra protective measures during his transport by plane today.

That plane, a charter Cessna 441, brought four Special Operations Group officers to Carnarvon on Friday morning.

Their job will be to escort Kelly onto the plane at one end and then into prison at the other.

How the escort of Cleo’s kidnap accused played out

‘Thank God he’s gone.’ That was the reaction of one senior police officer as Terence Darrell Kelly – the man accused of abducting little Cleo Smith – flew out of Carnarvon on Friday.

thewest.com.au

The plane’s halfway down the coast now. Seems they’ll have a tough time keeping him safe and well enough to face trial.

 

[Eaglette01]

The plane’s halfway down the coast now. Seems they’ll have a tough time keeping him safe and well enough to face trial.

Just coming up to Cervantes

Here is the live link:

https://www.flightradar24.com/NSA/29c0a47c

Being shadowed by a Royal Flying Doctors plane.......

 

[Flash of power]

There's issues around the suppression of a minor's identity as they relate to charges of a sexual nature but given we already know who Cleo is that will be difficult to navigate through. My guess on this is that there may be attempts to keep the actual charges quiet and from the public instead. (which they may have already done)

There's the same issues of right to fair trial and trying to select a fair and impartial jury, which would be just about impossible with this case it has an even higher profile than the Claremont murders. My guess is if it goes to trial, same as with the Claremont murders, it will likely be judge only.

Is that the defendant's choice though to be tried by judge or jury? A defence lawyer would probably recommend it but I think it comes down to the defendant, any verdict by jury could be challenged as being an unfair verdict due to the publicity and huge public sentiment in this case. Will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

 

[Awakening]

Lead story in the West online now.
Having issues with his left eye, or winking at the photographer?

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Doesn't look remorseful. Doesn't look like some insipid harmless oddball to me.

 

[Torree]

Just coming up to Cervantes

Here is the live link:

https://www.flightradar24.com/NSA/29c0a47c

Being shadowed by a Royal Flying Doctors plane.......

Thanks. I’ll keep my eye out for it. Looks like it’s moving pretty fast.

 

[deanc]

Leaving aside the illegality and the sheer bizarreness of it all, I honestly think he wanted to look after her to the best of his ability. She was his live doll. He kept her clean and fed. But he must have known he'd done the wrong thing and would have been scared too.

It would be hard for the parents not to speak of it to her. They must have a thousand questions they'd like answers to.

The child seems happy to be back and not traumatised (although we've only seen her briefly).

So much to unpack.

Just to add to this - I assume the child police phycologist/s interviewing her will be very careful not to portray what she has experienced with the assumption it was ALL a terrifying and traumatic one..!

In that she's maybe too young to actually comprehend the danger she was in and although a strange environment if 'uncle Terry' told her every day that he was taking care of her because that's what Mummy and Daddy wanted - one should proceed with extreme caution.
I mean uncle Terry gave her 100 dolls to play with, probably served her favourite food, bedtime was whenever she wanted etc.

Suddenly telling her that uncle Terry was actually a 'very bad man/monster' may not be the best strategy and I'm sure those suitably qualified and experienced in this area are actually portraying this to her more as; 'silly uncle Terry made a mistake'...

In the meantime, of course the media are promoting the dramatic adult perspective with their 'she'll be mentally scarred for life' narratives - whereas I'm suggesting there is very good chance this won't be the case...

Also note, from an adult perspective - if 'uncle Terry' does top himself prior to facing trial, which is more than likely, I won't lose any sleep over it..!

 

[Sweet Jesus]

People do strange things.

The dolls is like a cliche from a TV show or a movie where the bad guy has a collection of children's shoes.

 

[JWS2019]

Do they normally shackle like that before a plane ride

 

[broken paradigm]

Just because he had the location on his post doesn't mean he was there at all. I can post a pic now on Facebook and say I'm in the North Pole as my location. The so called Cronulla pic was a video wasn't it of kid's swimming in a pool? To me that was just a stolen video he used claiming they were his kid's. The pic of him in Sydney and his doll, with a beach in the background looks like pretty dry WA country to me

The puc with the doll was him sitting in a vehicle. No beach in sight. It was Bfew that posted about the cronulla photo they had found.

 

[BFew]

Cleo's alleged abductor flown to Perth as police focus on his movements in days before 4yo found

The man accused of taking Cleo Smith from her family's tent at a WA campsite is flown to Perth as police try to track his movements in the days before the four-year-old girl was found in Carnarvon.

www.abc.net.au

Is the ABC redacting his face voluntarily in this article this afternoon?

 

[BFew]

It was Bfew that posted about the cronulla photo they had found.

And I've since clarified in multiple posts in this thread (including my original ones) that my faulty memory had me thinking that the one that was of a Cronulla beach sea pool and Bay coastline had the accused in the picture as well (which it clearly did not).