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Carlton player Liam Jones refusing vax - Update: Jones retires from AFL

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If I wasn't threatened into getting vaccinated and losing my house, my children suffering, I wouldn't get vaccinated.

Liam is lucky, he's in a position where he can make these decisions, good on him!

You own your house outright like I do? If you don't take the vaccine the government just takes our houses away? Monsters!
 
what do you think of the fact that you were actually able to get care in the first place? Do you realise it was because we have capacity in our hospitals due to the unusually high levels of vax rates? The vax saved your life either directly, indirectly and/or most probably both.
Of course we do.
 

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my god…….the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting COVID. it was never meant to do that.

what it does do it it minimizes the risk of you having to be hospitalized and or dying from it.
And you are also infectious for a shorter period of time compared to an unvaxxed simpleton as you body already has the means to fight the virus from the get go whereas the unvaxxed don't as their bodies are not prepared hence they are infectious for a longer period and hence more likely to infect a lot more people
 
Playing AFL football with pericarditis, yes excellent idea, I'm sure doctors would agree. I'm not surprised a Dan sycophant is this uneducated and out of touch.

What gave you the indication I'm a Dan sycophant? It's almost like you've already made up your mind on things without making an attempt to look into them, which is unsurprising.

My understanding was that pericarditis is (mostly) treatable unless it is a particularly severe case and you would only have to stay away from physical exercise if you were in an acute phase of it. I am not a doctor and do not have pericarditis. My point was more if your non-existent AFL playing friend had a bad reaction to the first vaccine dose they'd be able to get an exemption from the second.
 
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Why do vaccine obsessed people always quote Polio vaccine as some sort of perfection created by science? You might want to read up on the development of it, which started in 1930 and was introduced in early 1950's and subsequently "perfected" over the next 30 years.

Oh and only just recently, oral version was actually giving children the virus.

Obviously these scientists and big pharma aren't out there to kill us on purpose, but we still don't to just blindly trust them.

They have fuc*** us MANY times and the next big drug or vaccine that kills thousands is only just around the corner.
The Bigpharma cheerleaders are an extraordinary lot. Mainly from the socialist Left.

One wonders whether they realise that in 2009 Pfizer had the biggest fine for fraud in corporate America's history - $2.3bil.

One also wonders whether they realise that this vaccine is the first product Moderna has ever brought to market. It's the first time they've been given the green light on any product since 2010. Extraordinarily they were Fauci's preferred vaccine supplier even though they'd never had a single success. Extraordinary until you realise that Fauci was financially involved in Moderna's patents.
 

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what do you think of the fact that you were actually able to get care in the first place? Do you realise it was because we have capacity in our hospitals due to the unusually high levels of vax rates? The vax saved your life either directly, indirectly and/or most probably both.

You are just gaslighting at this point.
 
Interesting they had to develop a scheme for vaccines that you all keep telling us are completely safe.. let's see how many payouts they make by this time next year

If there's no scheme: "THEY'VE PREVENTED YOU BEING ABLE TO CLAIM IF YOU HAVE A BAD REACTION TO THE VACCINE"

If there is a scheme "THEY HAD TO DEVELOP A SCHEME BECAUSE THE VACCINES ARE UNSAFE"

:drunk:
 
Really. Out of the 1% of people who have had the virus in Victoria with the vast majority of cases being unvaccinated you happen to know a ton of them?

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All the anti-vaxxers know dozens with Covid who are all perfectly fine. Just read back in the threads on this board.

Oddly, they also know many people very sick from vaccination.
 

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Carlton player Liam Jones refusing vax - Update: Jones retires from AFL

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