Carlton player Liam Jones refusing vax - Update: Jones retires from AFL

[Wosh]

I've had enough bigfooty for one night and probably for awhile. I'm off to do exactly that and wait for the t20 to start.

Smart move

 

[Sir_Loin]

I've had enough bigfooty for one night and probably for awhile. I'm off to do exactly that and wait for the t20 to start.

just raise a glass while you’re at it to the vaccine and the doctors and science and shit that means you‘re still here and you can still do that

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

They just DON'T GET IT.

It's ALL they can fit in their head.

- big pharma is bad
- don't trust scientists
- don't trust big governments
- don't trust MSM
- lockdowns are stupid
- vaccines are dangerous
- Covid isn't

All correct except for the last one. Covid is dangerous for high risk individuals (Elderly and those with pre-existing conditions)

 

[Roby]

You realise it's killed like 5 million people right?

It's probably closer to 20 million. A lot cases were not reported due to lack of knowledge early on in outbreaks around the world.

Then you can add a lack of testing kits or capacity in poorer countries.

I believe there have been roughly an excess of 20 million deaths worldwide since the pandemic began.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Fake News fake statistics vaccine is safe, those players are lucky they got vaccinated otherwise they would have died faster.

Yeah those statistics are fake cause there are people/athletes on the list whose death had nothing to with the vaccine ..... suicide .... gunshot

If your credibility wasn't suspect enough it has been absolutely obliterated now

 

[TheKanga]

They just DON'T GET IT.

It's ALL they can fit in their head.

- big pharma is bad
- don't trust scientists
- don't trust big governments
- don't trust MSM
- lockdowns are stupid
- vaccines are dangerous
- Covid isn't

You don't understand that a one size fits all approach isn't necessarily the right one?
What about people who have already had covid and have the antibodies (natural immunity)
What about people with heart conditions?
What about people that know of someone who had an adverse reaction?

Bullying people isn't the way.
When we view others as sub-human it's a problem and a slippery slope.

 

[carnthedons]

Yeah so what are you so scared of ?

And here comes the bravado. I’m not scared per se, statistically speaking I’ll almost certainly be not dead if I get covid. My immunocompromised wife, young children, older parents and in-laws with history of respiratory illness and random campaigners in the street? Yeah, I’d rather not kill them. This is the difference between you and I and why I’m not against exclusion of those who refuse the vaccine, I give a shit about society and want it to be better, you care about yourself.

 

[Sir_Loin]

All correct except for the last one. Covid is dangerous for high risk individuals (Elderly and those with pre-existing conditions)

this is 100% false. Just ask Freddy

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

Yeah those statistics are fake cause there are people/athletes on the list whose death had nothing to with the vaccine ..... suicide .... gunshot

If your credibility wasn't suspect enough it has been absolutely obliterated now

I always laugh when people like you make the same point we have been making since this all begun.. person with Covid dies in car crash = Covid death... Person has terminal cancer gets Covid = Covid death. Person gets adverse reaction to vaccine = fake news or they already had issue or if they got Covid would have been worse... Can't have it both ways

 

[deck]

Olivia Podmore (NZ cyclist) who is in that list of athletes ...... committed suicide

Cameron Burrell also on the list died of a gunshot wound

And they are the only 2 I checked

So now we have lists of athletes dying or nearly dying in the last year and it is directly inferred that Covid has something to do with it yet a quick check shows .........?

Absolutely disgraceful .......anti vaxxers scraping the bottom of the barrel

Needs to lie on deaths then hides his so called evidence behind a paywall.

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[carnthedons]

So you want a ban on religion?

I’m ok with that

 

[TheKanga]

And here comes the bravado. I’m not scared per se, statistically speaking I’ll almost certainly be not dead if I get covid. My immunocompromised wife, young children, older parents and in-laws with history of respiratory illness and random campaigners in the street? Yeah, I’d rather not kill them. This is the difference between you and I and why I’m not against exclusion of those who refuse the vaccine, I give a sh*t about society and want it to be better, you care about yourself.

What does that exclusion from society accomplish exactly?
Also how long should unvaxxed be shunned from cafes and shops.
When vaccinated can spread it as well it makes no sense.

 

[TheKanga]

Ah. Yes we do.

You used strawman argument and even that sucked.

The topic at hand is Liam Jones and i think he's a legend for not giving in
It's his body and it's his choice.

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

And here comes the bravado. I’m not scared per se, statistically speaking I’ll almost certainly be not dead if I get covid. My immunocompromised wife, young children, older parents and in-laws with history of respiratory illness and random campaigners in the street? Yeah, I’d rather not kill them. This is the difference between you and I and why I’m not against exclusion of those who refuse the vaccine, I give a sh*t about society and want it to be better, you care about yourself.

I assume they are vaccinated? Given the fact we know the vaccine doesn't stop transmission how can you ever feel safe with them leaving the house? You have no idea what interactions or group gatherings the people they will see have been doing. It's all a risk my friend - there are no guarantees in this life.

 

[Roby]

I can't wait for the reactions when AFLW and AFL players start collapsing on the field

The data is behind a paywall.

 

[Sir_Loin]

I always laugh when people like you make the same point we have been making since this all begun.. person with Covid dies in car crash = Covid death... Person has terminal cancer gets Covid = Covid death. Person gets adverse reaction to vaccine = fake news or they already had issue or if they got Covid would have been worse... Can't have it both ways

If a tree fell on you while you had a terminal illness and it killed you, what was your cause of death?

Can you see the absurdity of your post?

 

[Registered User]

Any wilfully unvaccinated person who has no legitimate medical reason for being so is a social pariah. End of.
Not sure why you decided to weaponise a female footballer but it’s pretty gormless. And irrelevant.
And yes, Varnhagen is a parasite.

ha ha! Totally different? No worries. Ya see, folks, this is how the political shills on here spin bullshit.
I've missed your commie comedy in the Dan Andrews thread. Were you ordered by your pinko overlords to stand down from that thread for doing more harm than good? I KNEW IT.,

 

[TheKanga]

I never knew how many weird leftist pro totalitarian government would frequent a footy forum.
Strange times.

 

[TheKanga]

And there you go proving my point.

I take you will be paying for his vaccine injury, champion

 

[Roby]

If there's no scheme: "THEY'VE PREVENTED YOU BEING ABLE TO CLAIM IF YOU HAVE A BAD REACTION TO THE VACCINE"

If there is a scheme "THEY HAD TO DEVELOP A SCHEME BECAUSE THE VACCINES ARE UNSAFE"

I'm confused to what you are even debating right now.

 

[Roby]

Did I? When?

Oh dear.

Do you remember what date you attended hospital?

 

[Sarcoidevo]

say it: 'Darni
That's 2 (I haven't checked); what about the other jazillion? How do you feel about the ALF players that will be killed by the jab next?
And WTF is an ant-vaxxer? I've had more tetanus shots in my life that lattes. You're a pro-jabber who thinks infants should be pumped full of mRNA-based poison. How do you like them apples?

Hahaha - you post an article that supposedly fits your agenda and then with a quick 10 second check I totally smashed it out of the park

My apples are a lot sweeter than yours

Thinks its time to deregister yourself

 

[PTizzle]

I'm confused to what you are even debating right now.

I'm just saying you can't win. If there's no scheme, apparently it's because all the pharmaceutical companies and the government are colluding. When it was shown that there was a scheme, apparently it's proof that there are harmful side effects of the vaccines. It's just constant goalpost shifting and is an incredibly tiresome and common move from the anti-science playbook.

 

[Roby]

Soooo hows it going in here?
Should I read the last few pages or take my eyes out with a hot poker?

You know you'll end up doing both.

 

[Toump Ass]

He has officially retired.

Jones announces his retirement

Defender Liam Jones announces retirement effective immediately.

www.carltonfc.com.au

We should all be grateful. An intellectual giant like Liam Jones is wasting his considerable far-reaching talents playing sport for Carlton football club. I cannot wait to see what his brilliant mind tackles next.

Good luck Liam!