List Mgmt. 2021 draft pool.

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[Dr Tigris]

Herald Sun, can't read it though...

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I knew it!!

Mr Magic is our list manager.

 

[Disco_Stu]

Herald Sun, can't read it though...

Richmond is open to trading its No.15 pick for a superior draft hand as the Tigers prepare to capitalise on draft night chaos with five picks to help replace premiership stars.
The Tigers will back in their draft order with coach Damien Hardwick giving the list team their head while in America on a fact-finding mission that includes more study in Boston.

Richmond is mindful of having lost three key position players in recent months and will hope to replace them by drafting the stars of the future with selections 7, 15, 26, 27, 28.

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While the Tigers look set to keep pick seven - which will drift back to pick nine after father-son bids - recruiting boss Matthew Clarke said Richmond was open to trading pick 15.

If rival clubs are keen to get up the order the Tigers would be prepared to swap pick 15 with a later pick in the teens as long as the compensation was adequate.

Richmond is open to only taking four picks as they eye stockpiling more selections in a 2022 national draft already laden with key position stocks.

The Tigers are on the hunt to find a replacement’s for their premiership stars. Picture: Getty Images
The Tigers are likely to secure one of intercepting defender Josh Gibcus, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, East Perth key position forward Jye Amiss or Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs with the first pick.

Richmond’s welter of early picks means the Tigers can consider their list priorities or trade some of their later picks to ultimately improve their draft strategy.

“We have talked about moving up from pick seven but given our rankings we think we have some really strong options who will get through to us. Potentially some clubs with picks in the 20s are keen on our pick 15 and we would be reluctant to give it up unless there was a good offer. But if we could get back into pick 19 or 20 the player we select might not be much different.

Josh Gibcus of Vic Country could find his way to Tigerland. Picture: AFL Photos via Getty Images
o could Vic Metro’s Josh Ward. Picture: AFL Photos via Getty Images
“So if someone really wanted pick 15 we could get a future first and potentially flick something back to them later in the draft.

“We are definitely mindful of those key position types. We have lost David Astbury, Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman Jones. But five picks gives us nice flexibility. If there are good players available with our rankings we could use all five picks and if clubs come hard we might get something good for next year.

Clarke said the club believed key defenders Ben Miller and “Biggy” Nyuon could make an impact next year but made clear it was dangerous to select on needs and ignore players with superior talent when taking top 10 picks.

“There will be some players we like. We are just sticking to our ranking. We want to be true to our rankings, we will come up with an order. We are pretty comfortable with where we sit. There will be some good players as there will be right through to 30, we are pretty confident we will get a good player.”

Richmond has always drafted for talent and traded for needs, so is aware if it can secure another selection in next year’s draft it could help restock the club’s midfield with another experienced player through the 2022 trade period.

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[RobsJourney]

Richmond is open to trading its No.15 pick for a superior draft hand as the Tigers prepare to capitalise on draft night chaos with five picks to help replace premiership stars.
The Tigers will back in their draft order with coach Damien Hardwick giving the list team their head while in America on a fact-finding mission that includes more study in Boston.

Richmond is mindful of having lost three key position players in recent months and will hope to replace them by drafting the stars of the future with selections 7, 15, 26, 27, 28.

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While the Tigers look set to keep pick seven - which will drift back to pick nine after father-son bids - recruiting boss Matthew Clarke said Richmond was open to trading pick 15.

If rival clubs are keen to get up the order the Tigers would be prepared to swap pick 15 with a later pick in the teens as long as the compensation was adequate.

Richmond is open to only taking four picks as they eye stockpiling more selections in a 2022 national draft already laden with key position stocks.

The Tigers are on the hunt to find a replacement’s for their premiership stars. Picture: Getty Images
The Tigers are likely to secure one of intercepting defender Josh Gibcus, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, East Perth key position forward Jye Amiss or Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs with the first pick.

Richmond’s welter of early picks means the Tigers can consider their list priorities or trade some of their later picks to ultimately improve their draft strategy.

“We have talked about moving up from pick seven but given our rankings we think we have some really strong options who will get through to us. Potentially some clubs with picks in the 20s are keen on our pick 15 and we would be reluctant to give it up unless there was a good offer. But if we could get back into pick 19 or 20 the player we select might not be much different.

Josh Gibcus of Vic Country could find his way to Tigerland. Picture: AFL Photos via Getty Images
o could Vic Metro’s Josh Ward. Picture: AFL Photos via Getty Images
“So if someone really wanted pick 15 we could get a future first and potentially flick something back to them later in the draft.

“We are definitely mindful of those key position types. We have lost David Astbury, Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman Jones. But five picks gives us nice flexibility. If there are good players available with our rankings we could use all five picks and if clubs come hard we might get something good for next year.

Clarke said the club believed key defenders Ben Miller and “Biggy” Nyuon could make an impact next year but made clear it was dangerous to select on needs and ignore players with superior talent when taking top 10 picks.

“There will be some players we like. We are just sticking to our ranking. We want to be true to our rankings, we will come up with an order. We are pretty comfortable with where we sit. There will be some good players as there will be right through to 30, we are pretty confident we will get a good player.”

Richmond has always drafted for talent and traded for needs, so is aware if it can secure another selection in next year’s draft it could help restock the club’s midfield with another experienced player through the 2022 trade period.

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Cheers

I guess it doesn't tell us anything we don't know hey

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

I had a dream we took Hobbs with our first pick . We need an inside mid.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I had a dream we took Hobbs with our first pick . We need an inside mid.

Hobbs. Ward. Gibcus. Rachele. Andrew. Callaghan.

Sounds like we will get a decent prospect however it goes down if we hold the first pick.

The like of Johnson. Erasmus. Sound handy too

 

[bc27]

Possible trades:

Hawks 21 future 2nd for tigers 15

Freo future 1st and 19 for tigers 15 and tigers future 2nd

Carlton 25 and future 1st for tigers 15 and norths future 2nd

 

[Noidnadroj]

I hope we don't trade 15 away unless our target really is Sonsie and we still get him.

Would prefer us to be trading up...

It’s a pretty simple equation …. if a player we really want is there at 15 we use it, if not we will trade it out. I’d then expect us to trade out at least one more of 26/27/28, thus taking 3 picks in this draft and heading into 2022 draft with 2 x firsts and 3 x seconds. Gives us flexibility for any trade opportunities that rear up next season. If Callaghan is a star as it looks it’s hard to see all of Taranto, Hopper, Green remaining happy sharing midfield time with Ward, Coniglio, Whitfield, Greene, Callaghan et al…. someone will want out.


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[Marcel Proust]

It’s a pretty simple equation …. if a player we really want is there at 15 we use it, if not we will trade it out. I’d then expect us to trade out at least one more of 26/27/28, thus taking 3 picks in this draft and heading into 2022 draft with 2 x firsts and 3 x seconds. Gives us flexibility for any trade opportunities that rear up next season. If Callaghan is a star as it looks it’s hard to see all of Taranto, Hopper, Green remaining happy sharing midfield time with Ward, Coniglio, Whitfield, Greene, Callaghan et al…. someone will want out.


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Whos trading a future 1st?

Geelong again maybe.

If I were a giants fan I would have no issues adding calla to that group

 

[G String]

Good luck tomorrow Draft team. Get the boys who will help deliver us Flags number 15, 16 and 17.

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and good luck to the draftees too - may you not get drafted by Gold Coast or have to move to a shit hole like Adelaide

 

[Hamsatma]

I had a dream we took Hobbs with our first pick . We need an inside mid.

I've had a very concerning number of dreams about the draft, many of which I've woken up from in a cold sweat because we've picked some scrub - considering getting professional help

 

[Marcel Proust]

I've had a very concerning number of dreams about the draft, many of which I've woken up from in a cold sweat because we've picked some scrub - considering getting professional help

Try doing more yoga pre draft

 

[Del65166]

But I think Balta should play CHF, still the most important position on the ground, and if last year was any evidence, our weakest position.

I like the idea of Balta out of the backline. But I'd be rotating him in the ruck too. Playing permanent forward has its difficulties

 

[Marcel Proust]

I like the idea of Balta out of the backline. But I'd be rotating him in the ruck too. Playing permanent forward has its difficulties

Someone is going to have to do it post riewoldt.

If we pass/don't get amiss. Andrew. Van Rooyen etc. Looks a decent idea imo.

Memes aside

 

[Del65166]

Someone is going to have to do it post riewoldt.

If we pass/don't get amiss. Andrew. Van Rooyen etc. Looks a decent idea imo.

Memes aside

Balta is an obvious talent but I'd be taking a couple of 195 types to replace Jr in a year or 2. Maybe not both this year

 

[Disco_Stu]

I don't follow this very closely - but my inside word suggests we are keen on ' Tyler Sonsie'.


Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro)

The 181cm on-baller possesses talent that warrants a top-five selection, but his inconsistency due to injury and lack of continuity this year has seen him slide down many club draft boards. A midfielder with a high footy IQ, strength at the contest, flair and class on the outside, Sonsie can swing the momentum of a match promptly. Some clubs, though, appear hesitant to use an early pick on him.

Draft Range: 10-30

 

[tiger_tough]

Sounds like we might trade 15 down the order. Not happy. Should be trading it up

Twomey reckons we're looking at moving up the order with 15 and one in the 20s.

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[Cotchy9]

Sonsie would be the steal of the draft at 17.

 

[Little Bit Dusty]

Hoping we take Johnson with pick 7(9), but I'd also be happy with Gibcus.

Ward or Rachele would be great options if they got through, but that seems unlikely.

I like the sounds of Sonsie with pick 15. It's not hard to see him earning a spot early in 2022 as a small forward with bursts in the midfield.

It sounds like we're only taking 4 picks, so hopefully we take a mid with one of our second rounders (Taylor/Butler/Macdonald) and a KPP with the other (Bhazzo/Aleer)

 

[Mr Magic]

If Johnson and Ward are both gone before 7 its interesting to see who we want in that scenario.

Leaning to Sinn then trading to pick up Gibcus. The even trading again to get others with first rounders

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Sonsie would be the steal of the draft at 17.

We are leaning more towards Jake Soligo with a later pick and use 17 on a different type. Soligo is a very similar type to Sonsie.

 

[Marcel Proust]

We are leaning more towards Jake Soligo with a later pick and use 17 on a different type. Soligo is a very similar type to Sonsie.

The trade we made with Collingwood seems weird then.

May have been better to keep picks 38 and 40 in this year’s draft as well as a future third-round selection.?

 

[Cotchy9]

The trade we made with Collingwood seems weird then.

May have been better to keep picks 38 and 40 in this year’s draft as well as a future third-round selection.?

100%. No point reaching at 28 after paying a bit in a trade for it

 

[Marcel Proust]

The hun phantom draft has Hobbs @ 8 now

 

[Grrr]

Tigers need midfielders is a common theme but what happens to Dow. Ross. Stack. Rcd. Bolton. Graham. Baker. (24 and under group) in the short and long term?

No kid in the draft other than Horne-Francis who is a dead set gun and perhaps Daicos although he is very light, will fly past a group of good players who have been in the system for a few years and are ready to go. All of those you mentioned are capable players, some have the potential to be way above that. I think some are expecting a bit too much. Only Delidio, Cotchin, Martin and Vlastuin have come in and played good footy in their first season, but that was a while ago now.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

The trade we made with Collingwood seems weird then.

May have been better to keep picks 38 and 40 in this year’s draft as well as a future third-round selection.?

We were anticipating that Soligo would go before those picks.