Women's Footy 2022 AFLW Season Discussion (now Player Movement)

[Dalions]

Not a great sign if we had to resort to whining in the media to hold on to our players and sets us up as a target given we’ve gone through close to unscathed

Should be close to favourites given we’ve kept our list together

Couple of other have too though I think.
Melbourne didn’t get hit too hard, did they, and Freo either.

 

[Dalions]

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Not a great sign if we had to resort to whining in the media to hold on to our players and sets us up as a target given we’ve gone through close to unscathed

Should be close to favourites given we’ve kept our list together

What? By suggesting he sick of losing good players?

 

[Nathan Barley]

What? By suggesting he sick of losing good players?

We havent been losing good players

 

[jonnobackpocket]

We havent been losing good players

We havent been losing good players

Virgo, kasler, Randall, Harris, Traub, Ashmore, Gibson, McCarthy and there are more.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Virgo, kasler, Randall, Harris, Traub, Ashmore, Gibson, McCarthy and there are more.

They we’re all at least 3 years ago and of course we were going to lose players in the initial expansion when we drafted from the Gold Coast and players with ties to VFLW clubs

 

[Gadzorks]

They we’re all at least 3 years ago and of course we were going to lose players in the initial expansion when we drafted from the Gold Coast and players with ties to VFLW clubs

I think that's the point. Over the past five years Starc has watched a lot of talent walk away. His comments weren't just about this year, he's just such of being a feeder club.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

They we’re all at least 3 years ago and of course we were going to lose players in the initial expansion when we drafted from the Gold Coast and players with ties to VFLW clubs

You said we hadn’t lose any good players? Then you say of course we will?

 

[Nathan Barley]

You said we hadn’t lose any good players? Then you say of course we will?

I said we weren’t losing good players and we really haven’t for a while now

 

[Nathan Barley]

I think that's the point. Over the past five years Starc has watched a lot of talent walk away. His comments weren't just about this year, he's just such of being a feeder club.

We were a foundation club and seen 10 clubs added. Of course we were going to lose players. this time we’ve benefited from the expansion with the crows being weakened

 

[jonnobackpocket]

We were a foundation club and seen 10 clubs added. Of course we were going to lose players. this time we’ve benefited from the expansion with the crows being weakened

Irrelevant to what you said, you said Starce was ‘whining’ about losing players, according to you without reason. The fact he has lost a truck load of players was the reason.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Irrelevant to what you said, you said Starce was ‘whining’ about losing players, according to you without reason. The fact he has lost a truck load of players was the reason.

He was whining about being raided this off season. Real victim mentality. And it didn’t happen so now he looks stupid

 

[Jeremiah001]

He was whining about being raided this off season. Real victim mentality. And it didn’t happen so now he looks stupid

He wasn't whining. He did what he had to do to keep his team together. He doesnt look stupid. Great premiership coach and we are lucky to have him.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

He was whining about being raided this off season. Real victim mentality. And it didn’t happen so now he looks stupid

Looks stupid to you and you only.

 

[Nathan Barley]

He wasn't whining. He did what he had to do to keep his team together. He doesnt look stupid. Great premiership coach and we are lucky to have him.

I can't see how that had any influence on players making a decision.

Maybe Fagan should have a whinge about free agency to stop McStay leaving

 

[BRAB]

He was whining about being raided this off season. Real victim mentality. And it didn’t happen so now he looks stupid

It perhaps does look a bit silly but I imagine contract situations like this are quite fluid and Starc was operating off the best information he had at the time. I'd rather he advocate for the club.

I do understand your point though. If a coach complains every year about players leaving and then players never leave than that coach can look a bit silly.

 

[LongLion]

He was whining about being raided this off season. Real victim mentality. And it didn’t happen so now he looks stupid

Never entered my mind. Amusing suggestion. You forget we play in a non VFL state and have to continually fight for relevancy and if we don't take a stand they just do everything they can to run all over us.

 

[mpal6]

I can't see how that had any influence on players making a decision.

Maybe Fagan should have a whinge about free agency to stop McStay leaving

He had 2 options - keep quiet, keep his opinions to himself and let players decide. Or just be out there, shout from the roof tops about his displeasure and what we had to go through during last rebuild, how its unfair. Whether his opinion would influence player decision is a different matter, we won't know how strong his relationships are with individual players to make a difference on their decision making.

I'm glad he chose the second option - we need someone to give our AFLW team a voice on this matter. I'm glad he did.

 

[Nathan Barley]

He had 2 options - keep quiet, keep his opinions to himself and let players decide. Or just be out there, shout from the roof tops about his displeasure and what we had to go through during last rebuild, how its unfair. Whether his opinion would influence player decision is a different matter, we won't know how strong his relationships are with individual players to make a difference on their decision making.

I'm glad he chose the second option - we need someone to give our AFLW team a voice on this matter. I'm glad he did.

How is it unfair?

Its a rapidly expanding competition and these new teams need to be competitive. Does he not want the competition to be as strong as it can be?

 

[mpal6]

How is it unfair?

Its a rapidly expanding competition and these new teams need to be competitive. Does he not want the competition to be as strong as it can be?

Are you prepared to have Lions at the bottom of the ladder as a feeder club ?
After all, it seems you're more concerned about the greater good of the competition?

We lost 8 and by some miracle the players we got out of QAFLW gelled really well for us to pinch that 2021 premiership. Don't tell me we need to keep doing this crap while other clubs can come and cherry pick off our list.

 

[dlanod]

How is it unfair?

Its a rapidly expanding competition and these new teams need to be competitive. Does he not want the competition to be as strong as it can be?

Please. Come on. He's not being paid to ensure a strong competition, he's being paid to win games as coach of the Brisbane Lions.

 

[mpal6]

How is it unfair?

Its a rapidly expanding competition and these new teams need to be competitive. Does he not want the competition to be as strong as it can be?

May be we should've encouraged Emily Bates to take the best offer from Victoria, Orla to take the best offer from Blues and few others to take the best offer from Sydney etc.

Then all muppets will come out of woodwork wailing "oh we are so poorly run? why can't we retain our players? why is no one complaining about this? Kulcha !!!!"

 

[Nathan Barley]

Are you prepared to have Lions at the bottom of the ladder as a feeder club ?
After all, it seems you're more concerned about the greater good of the competition?

We lost 8 and by some miracle the players we got out of QAFLW gelled really well for us to pinch that 2021 premiership. Don't tell me we need to keep doing this crap while other clubs can come and cherry pick off our list.

May be we should've encouraged Emily Bates to take the best offer from Victoria, Orla to take the best offer from Blues and few others to take the best offer from Sydney etc.

Then all muppets will come out of woodwork wailing "oh we are so poorly run? why can't we retain our players? why is no one complaining about this? Kulcha !!!!"

Jesus......

 

[mpal6]

Jesus......

Well you needed the awakening after all. Good that you're seeing the light now.

 

[dlanod]

Jesus......

It was a really dumb question.

It's no difference from asking whether Fagan should be concerned about boosting the strength of other clubs. Should he be fine with Neale going to Fremantle, because after all we've had more success recently than them so the AFL as a whole can seem stronger? Or McStay to Collingwood?

If any Lions supporter answers "yes" to any of that, they're full of crap - the aim of the club is ultimately to win premierships, not ensure Gold Coast or Collingwood or Fremantle do. Managing equality is the AFL's role, not the individual clubs'.