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Club Mgmt. Board of Directors as led by President Dave Barham - Statement from Barham addressing Merrett etc - 12/9

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Call Me Cake said:
I was clearly using a figure of speech.

Nevertheless, if we had sacked Rutten mid-year, we could have afforded being without him while looking for a possible replacement. The fact that we didn't pull a North/Noble and gave him the rest of the year to show signs of consistency and reasons for sticking with him beyond 2022 was what has forced our hand to hold out and get a feel for what's available for a quicker transition in the less time left. It is due to our courtesy to Rutten that we're in this position, not the other way around.

Also to quote Hardwick recently,

thewest



We've done the smart thing. The hooplah is the media's doing, not ours.
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F*ck that's a ballsy call that the club is doing Rutten a courtesy! I agree that this is a performance-based industry and the stakes are high, no-ones job is guaranteed regardless of contracts. The big difference between Ess and North here is that North made the call that they need a new coach, and let Noble know he wasn't their man. They then began their process of seeking a replacement. WTF Rutten has been told nobody knows, but letting rumours fester in the public domain is no courtesy to anyone.
 
ghostdog said:
I think I read somewhere that Clarkson thinks it disrespectful to announce before the end of the round. Given Adams is only a caretaker, that comment seemed to me to be more Rutten considered, so I agree. It looks like Essendon.

For the life of me I don't see why. He would have to be confident that the administrative and structural stuff can be fixed fairly quickly. The whole place looks dysfunctional to me.

If we don't sign Clarko now and Hird is parachuted in, that will be the joke of the year. If any of our players have their doubts about the club now, imagine how they'll feel if that happened.
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Here's another reason it seems Clarkson is coming; Clarkson did say he didn't think it respectful to the current coach to say until after the round had been completed, but Adams has already said openly that he thinks it would be great for North if Clarko chooses them.

So, disrespecting Adams is clearly not the issue, but disrespecting Truck is. Logic tells me, then, that it appears the messiah cometh.
 
Call Me Cake said:
The club has done nothing to Rutten. It's been all media.
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The media treating Rutten poorly and the club treating Rutten poorly are not mutually exclusive.

They’re essentially giving him no option but to front up every day (given the potential salary payout) like nothing is happening while approaching Clarkson for the job. Essentially saying he’s the fallback option if Clarkson doesn’t select Essendon.

There’s a reason why clubs select an interim coach when they make the decision that he isn’t the one. If he wasn’t the fallback option, then they would have already sacked him.
 
ghostdog said:
Here's another reason it seems Clarkson is coming; Clarkson did say he didn't think it respectful to the current coach to say until after the round had been completed, but Adams has already said openly that he thinks it would be great for North if Clarko chooses them.

So, disrespecting Adams is clearly not the issue, but disrespecting Truck is. Logic tells me, then, that it appears the messiah cometh.
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Clarko wore Golden Station Warriors shirt in Adelaide, Bogut played for GSW and wants Clarko, who visited GSW on his development trip. All lines up to me.
 

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Call Me Cake said:
I just find it funny how we keep Woosha on the seat while orchestrating a replacement with the last year of his contract still to run yet the moment the same sort of scenario seems a possibility with Rutten all hell breaks loose, "the humanity!", etc; etc;

And what's extra funny is Rutten was the direct beneficiary of that, but you didn't hear a peep come from him or his supporters then.

Double standards.
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The two situations are nothing alike.
 
Call Me Cake said:
I was clearly using a figure of speech.

Nevertheless, if we had sacked Rutten mid-year, we could have afforded being without him while looking for a possible replacement. The fact that we didn't pull a North/Noble and gave him the rest of the year to show signs of consistency and reasons for sticking with him beyond 2022 was what has forced our hand to hold out and get a feel for what's available for a quicker transition in the less time left. It is due to our courtesy to Rutten that we're in this position, not the other way around.

Also to quote Hardwick recently,

thewest



We've done the smart thing. The hooplah is the media's doing, not ours.
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That's if you want to understate the role of people within the club leaking to the media, sure, otherwise the hooplah was obviously spurred by numerous leaks.
 
Ever since the news of the board meeting broke I've been of the view that regardless of what happens next, Rutten's position as coach is untenable.

I know there are stories out there of other coaches who have nearly been given the flick by a split board, but end up staying on and achieving success (Hardwick and Goodwin come to mind). Is there a difference in this situation other than the fact the media got hold of the situation as it was happening (you'd have to assume a leak from a board member or some such) and actually publicly announced his sacking?
 
ghostdog said:
You're missing the point; if Adams is totally okay with hiring Clarko, then Clarko doesn't have to worry about stepping on his toes by saying he's going to coach North.
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Nah, got your point. I just thought lining up those wild speculations was funnier. I'm also leaning heavily towards him choosing Essendon due to what you said.
 
JayJ20 said:
The media treating Rutten poorly and the club treating Rutten poorly are not mutually exclusive.

They’re essentially giving him no option but to front up every day (given the potential salary payout) like nothing is happening while approaching Clarkson for the job. Essentially saying he’s the fallback option if Clarkson doesn’t select Essendon.

There’s a reason why clubs select an interim coach when they make the decision that he isn’t the one. If he wasn’t the fallback option, then they would have already sacked him.
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If you were Truck and Clarkson got the gig but wanted to keep you, would you stay?
 
Hey guys. Just trying to find who conducted the internal review at Essendon. I read Wellman was going to run it, with input from Sheeds and Madden, but in the end, mahoney had a bit to do with it.

Anyone recall who ran it?
 

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ghostdog said:
Here's another reason it seems Clarkson is coming; Clarkson did say he didn't think it respectful to the current coach to say until after the round had been completed, but Adams has already said openly that he thinks it would be great for North if Clarko chooses them.

So, disrespecting Adams is clearly not the issue, but disrespecting Truck is. Logic tells me, then, that it appears the messiah cometh.
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I think you underestimate the respect that Clarkson shows to coaches in general, regardless of whether Adams is an interim coach or not, he will not do him the disservice of taking the shine off his time as senior coach of the club, similarly it would be staggering for him to consider Essendon while Rutten sits in the chair.

As a player he was limited by size but an excellent leader (captained Vic Metro U18), a bit like Clarko himself. While he may have a 1-4 coaching record, it has been a big effort for a 34 year old to take on the bottom side mid-year and he has handled himself with aplomb in the past 5 weeks.
 
Handsome.B.Wonderful said:
I think you underestimate the respect that Clarkson shows to coaches in general, regardless of whether Adams is an interim coach or not, he will not do him the disservice of taking the shine off his time as senior coach of the club, similarly it would be staggering for him to consider Essendon while Rutten sits in the chair.

As a player he was limited by size but an excellent leader (captained Vic Metro U18), a bit like Clarko himself. While he may have a 1-4 coaching record, it has been a big effort for a 34 year old to take on the bottom side mid-year and he has handled himself with aplomb in the past 5 weeks.
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Hire him then
 
Handsome.B.Wonderful said:
I think you underestimate the respect that Clarkson shows to coaches in general, regardless of whether Adams is an interim coach or not, he will not do him the disservice of taking the shine off his time as senior coach of the club, similarly it would be staggering for him to consider Essendon while Rutten sits in the chair.

As a player he was limited by size but an excellent leader (captained Vic Metro U18), a bit like Clarko himself. While he may have a 1-4 coaching record, it has been a big effort for a 34 year old to take on the bottom side mid-year and he has handled himself with aplomb in the past 5 weeks.
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Yeah I like Adams. I watched the vid of him speaking with the players about getting out there and enjoying their footy, which I thought was a good circuit breaker for the mindset.

Still leaning to Clarko choosing Essendon though.
 
Call Me Cake said:
I just find it funny how we keep Woosha on the seat while orchestrating a replacement with the last year of his contract still to run yet the moment the same sort of scenario seems a possibility with Rutten all hell breaks loose, "the humanity!", etc; etc;

And what's extra funny is Rutten was the direct beneficiary of that, but you didn't hear a peep come from him or his supporters then.

Double standards.
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How is this the same sort of scenario? You think Trucks going to do a handover?
 

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Call Me Cake said:
I just find it funny how we keep Woosha on the seat while orchestrating a replacement with the last year of his contract still to run yet the moment the same sort of scenario seems a possibility with Rutten all hell breaks loose, "the humanity!", etc; etc;

And what's extra funny is Rutten was the direct beneficiary of that, but you didn't hear a peep come from him or his supporters then.

Double standards.
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Sounds like you had the wrong subtitles on
 
P Money said:
Ever since the news of the board meeting broke I've been of the view that regardless of what happens next, Rutten's position as coach is untenable.

I know there are stories out there of other coaches who have nearly been given the flick by a split board, but end up staying on and achieving success (Hardwick and Goodwin come to mind). Is there a difference in this situation other than the fact the media got hold of the situation as it was happening (you'd have to assume a leak from a board member or some such) and actually publicly announced his sacking?
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If Clarkson doesn't come to EFC, I hope Rutten stays, gets wins on the board and sticks it up 'em. It would be great for Barham and co. to have to look him in the eye each day under those circumstances. I'd love that.
 
Norf supporters claiming Clarko is a shinboner for life, despite having more of an impact at Melb as a player and at a Haw as a coach. Love Norf supporters.

So far we've had Ponting, Carey, Adams all give emotional passionate verbal and written pleas for Clarko to join the Kangas. Who's up tomorrow? Jason McCartney :tearsofjoy:
 
ghostdog said:
Here's another reason it seems Clarkson is coming; Clarkson did say he didn't think it respectful to the current coach to say until after the round had been completed, but Adams has already said openly that he thinks it would be great for North if Clarko chooses them.

So, disrespecting Adams is clearly not the issue, but disrespecting Truck is. Logic tells me, then, that it appears the messiah cometh.
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I think you're reading into this exactly what you want to read. Tinfoil hat stuff. There really is zero indication on which way Clarko will go, but it'd have to be a one in a million shot to poach him from NM's grasp at the absolute last second with the Hail Mary desperation attempt from Essendon.

I'd be over the moon if Clarko comes to the Bombers, if for no other reason than the club can no longer blame a coach for poor on-field performances and the 'leadership' will finally have to accept that they are the only common denominator left of two decades of utter utter shite.
 
ghostdog said:
If you were Truck and Clarkson got the gig but wanted to keep you, would you stay?
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I’m not sure I’d want to work for the club given the circumstances. I’d rather work for a more stable club. Why would I willingly deal with so much politics?

To be honest, if I was a player, I’d probably request for a trade to give me a fresh start so that I can avoid all the drama.
 
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This just about sums up everything wrong with the club imo
 
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