List Mgmt. List Management 2022

[BrisbaneCFC]

Another one that is 6 odd years in and only shown bare glimpses and one good game against *. The knee clearly has been a nasty one, however there was not a lot to go on before that. Post knee I am not confident we will see much more.

8th season next year. Its time to cut the cord on this one.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Just remember this is the club that has provided 20yrs of mediocrity. The club isn’t always right, in fact it gets it pretty wrong, most of the time.

In those 20 years, we never had:

• the best CEO in the caper
• A president that wasn't a yes man
• A footy director that turns up to the club most days and rolls his sleeves up (not spends his time networking and share trading)
• a board that wasn't divided/incompetent.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Same was said about Tim English at the end of last year.

Fair enough, I wouldn't know what was said about him TBF. I'm just going on what i see with TDK.

 

[Gavstar]

Good or bad

Crazy Voss planning a Fevola like trade?

 

[Jeremias]

Think you're drawing a long bow think Stocker could be the next Kouta

Think you've completely missed the point

 

[katmanblue]

North have not got any picks that we could actually use in the draft this year that’s the problem.

Even a future 3rd is better than nothing.

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[DollarsandSense]

Newnes and Stocker play R22 and R23 and get cut. Fogarty play any senior footy in 2022? But yet he remains listed

You’d have to think Fogarty is such a nothing player that they’ve even forgotten he’s on the list.

 

[Kramer1]

At some stage you might lose the blinkers

You are giving all the inferences of further knowedge of the matter.

Might one shit or get off the pot?

 

[Arr0w]

You are giving all the inferences of further knowedge of the matter.

Might one s**t or get off the pot?

Just for a moment, think about his games this year

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Think you've completely missed the point

Maybe I have? Seems strange to mention Stocker, then a 20 year search for the next Kouta in virtually the same breath.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Feel like we could be in for a surprise in the upcoming trade period ...

Be ready to be surprised by a good amount of kids rolling through the door rather than big trades.

 

[Jeremias]

Maybe I have? Seems strange to mention Stocker, then a 20 year search for the next Kouta in virtually the same breath.

Not that strange if you read it properly. It's pretty obvious that the post wasn't making that comparison.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

For Stocker to go, Fogarty, Dow, Ed Curnow, Philp and possibly Cuningham, Plowman and Owies are close to the edge.

Our list is now down to 32 senior, 7 rookies.

 

[King Cripps]

Be ready to be surprised by a good amount of kids rolling through the door rather than big trades.

You think we are going for rebuild number
Ummm

Sorry what rebuild number are we up to ?

 

[JustaBattler]

Just remember this is the club that has provided 20yrs of mediocrity. The club isn’t always right, in fact it gets it pretty wrong, most of the time.

Ok lets go over the obvious:

I'd be concerned if it was the same recruiting department | VFL 'affiliate' | CEO | Board | Coach(es) and Players...

The Club has made it clear that the list is far from complete
The Coach made it clear that standards are going up (again) this pre-season
The Coach made it clear that there would be 'unpopular' list changes

If nothing else apart from clearly being very unlucky to miss finals - the Club is transparent and clear in its messaging to those who wish to read / remember.

The President has appointed a CEO who has experienced a modicum of organisational success
The Board has appointed a Coach who has experienced a modicum of success

Press on.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

You think we are going for rebuild number
Ummm

Sorry what rebuild number are we up to ?

Rebuild?

 

[Hands On]

 

[ray8182]

Every club would have jumped on Dow after us. He was one of the big 3 that year with Rayner, LDU and Dow. We developed hom badly.

I disagree that it’s all about development.

It seemed there was a top 5 in that draft.

Rayner
Brayshaw
Dow
LDU
Cerra.

Brayshaw was a late riser.

Ldu and Cerra were always more rounded players than Dow, and they should have been preferred over him.

The two key issues with Dow was kicking and endurance. Dows endurance was on display at draft camp. He tested poorly in distance running which is a massive concern for midfielders who need above average endurance. Dows endurance has gone on to be a key issue in his failure to be an afl player to this point.

Did Carlton take an u18 midfielder who never actually had the capacity to be an elite AFL midfielder because of his running capacity?

Carlton then went on to draft stocker the following year, a player with even worse endurance.

The Carlton recruitment team clearly did not understand the running requirements of AFL football.


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[carlton_99]

You think we are going for rebuild number
Ummm

Sorry what rebuild number are we up to ?

Hitting the draft does not equal rebuild. Given our list it's actually the smart thing to do. Do everything we can to keep the top-end talent we have and supplement it with draftees. Will ensure we have the best possible chance of achieving sustained success

 

[Kramer1]

Just for a moment, think about his games this year

I'm aware of his body of work.

Do go on...

 

[Blue since 72]

Short memories in here, Voss was the second coming and now we’re back to crazy Vossy because one player gets delisted.

have no idea why but it could be any number of reasons:

• Others can play his current role better.
• Not fit enough and after 4 years probably never will be.
• Perhaps he’s not very coachable/doesn’t adhere to game plan.
• Maybe there are personality issues.

And i’m sure there’s more I’ve missed.

Comparing Stocker to players like Fog is just incorrect as they don’t play the same position.

Supporters looking at Stocker and seeing him do some things better than others on the list doesn’t equate to he should stay on the list and just improve his areas of deficiency.

If he gets picked up by another club and shines then best of luck to him but it still doesn’t necessarily mean he was right for Carlton.

 

[bmaurizio]

Be ready to be surprised by a good amount of kids rolling through the door rather than big trades.

We need astute, competent drafting, no more no less , no time to squander its been decades of debacles, let’s hope the new kids are made of the right stuff and help us towards success.
Austini‘s role is crucial.

 

[King Cripps]

Hitting the draft does not equal rebuild. Given our list it's actually the smart thing to do. Do everything we can to keep the top-end talent we have and supplement it with draftees. Will ensure we have the best possible chance of achieving sustained success

Totally agree with this. I was just being silly

 

[Percy2257]

Not surprised Stocker is gone.
But extremely disappointed - the guy has something few others have on our list - genuine hurt factor.
We just became softer as a list. And we didn’t even bother trying to get a packet of chips in return.
We are such a shite club sometimes.

Don’t be ridiculous. As if we wouldn’t have traded Stocker if there was genuine interest.
so what if he goes to North. He’s hardly a game changer.
He may end up on a rookie list somewhere.
He is hardly the difference between us being in the 8 or the top 4 or missing out.

 

[Arr0w]

I'm aware of his body of work.

Do go on...

Stocker doesn't respect an opponent nor does he adhere to handing off and or closing down on dangerous space as a defender

Yes, might be due to being a midfielder as a junior, but hasn't worked hard enough on his fitness levels to play as a mid at the next level