Bluemour 'Silly Season' Edition XXXIV

[Sheephead]

I read the post. And the more you post, the more ridiculous you sound.

Took me about 10 seconds, but Taranto's game 46-50 stretch as a developing 21yo:

Averaged 32 touches, 7 tackles, 6 clearances.
Polled 7 votes over the five matches, which is more than Cerra has polled in the last four seasons combined.
Kicked 3 goals, which is almost what Cerra averages in a full season.

But sure, keep telling yourself that Cerra's purple patch is better than anything Taranto has produced....

PS - I am a huge Cerra fan. Not trying to talk him down, just pointing out your claims are wearing blue-coloured glasses....

‘You brokeded our Ferris’

 

[Sheephead]

I forgot Carroll was a WA kid. Like him a lot but just not sure of his fit. I’d trade him for VIC lad Hayden Young

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Hayden Young

Age

24

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.4

3star

CL

0.2

2star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.4

2star

CL

0.2

2star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

. That kid will be special.

 

[BlueJet]

Taranto better than our 3rd best midfielder in Hewett who IIRC averaged some of the highest clearance numbers in the competition? I don’t think so

Apologies on RCD though, I mixed him up with Ralphsmith.

Though, Hopper is not anywhere near as good as Hewett or Cerra. 7 years is ridiculous.

You're taking the piss, surely?

 

[gandaal]

Taranto will be All Australian next year. Lock it in. He’s that good.

Open the other eye people.

 

[Sheephead]

Taranto will be All Australian next year. Lock it in. He’s that good.

Open the other eye people.

Which eye??

 

[Juice030103]

Taranto will be All Australian next year. Lock it in. He’s that good.

Open the other eye people.

He’s not that good. He’s a very good player but all Australians are top 8 or so mids that season. He’s not that

 

[branedotorg]

I forgot Carroll was a WA kid. Like him a lot but just not sure of his fit. I’d trade him for VIC lad Hayden Young. That kid will be special.

Carroll + 2 first rounders maybe

 

[smit_is]

Having inspected Acres again last night, I’m very much keen to see the club put an offer in and add him to our portfolio.

Considering prices in inner city Melbourne, it would be very rare that you’d find an acre(s) going that cheap? Let’s just hope that the agent isn’t underquoting.

In all seriousness, I thought he was one of only a few shining lights in an otherwise dull Fremantle last night, and think he instantly makes us a better team next year.

Sign him up Austin!

 

[Sector 7G]

Kemp is a third tall. His ceiling is solid best 22 player.

What Chris Dorre suggested 3 years ago is irrelevant. He’s not a mid and never was.

Agreed People were saying CC,Francis and Fogarty could play midfield as well. Plenty of big bodied kids in juniors don’t cut it in the AFL due to lack of midfield running ability let alone guys who weren’t doing it in juniors.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

I read the post. And the more you post, the more ridiculous you sound.

Took me about 10 seconds, but Taranto's game 46-50 stretch as a developing 21yo:

Averaged 32 touches, 7 tackles, 6 clearances.
Polled 7 votes over the five matches, which is more than Cerra has polled in the last four seasons combined.
Kicked 3 goals, which is almost what Cerra averages in a full season.

But sure, keep telling yourself that Cerra's purple patch is better than anything Taranto has produced....

PS - I am a huge Cerra fan. Not trying to talk him down, just pointing out your claims are wearing blue-coloured glasses....

You're being way generous with your maths.... noting Cerra's was only a 4 game patch....as quoted again below.

But on averages (for what it's worth), Cerra was ahead on marks, I50s (miles ahead) and goals......

But carry on....

And the bigger point is will he and Hopper make the Tigers a contender again?

I suggest that is unlikely. imo.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Having inspected Acres again last night, I’m very much keen to see the club put an offer in and add him to our portfolio.

Considering prices in inner city Melbourne, it would be very rare that you’d find an acre(s) going that cheap? Let’s just hope that the agent isn’t underquoting.

In all seriousness, I thought he was one of only a few shining lights in an otherwise dull Fremantle last night, and think he instantly makes us a better team next year.

Sign him up Austin!

Yep, all for it.

Heard Longmuir post game saying there’s a few Freo guys unsigned that have to try to lock in.

….& they’ll have to move heaven & earth to get Jackson at the same time.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

You're taking the piss, surely?

Mate, Hewett is 7th for average clearances per game and Cerra 61st

Taranto is 78th and Hopper 43rd

I would take Hewett over Taranto and Cerra over Hopper all day, except for the fact that Taranto is quite a bit younger than Hewett and has a more front half game.

My point is that they are great pick ups but relative to the draft and salary capital they have to surrender versus the duo we picked up last season who are at worst their peers is chalk and cheese.

Of course I’d have them at the Baggers, but you don’t build your club around two decent midfielders. 7 year contracts are for players you build your club around, like Charlie.

 

[BlueJet]

Mate, Hewett is 7th for average clearances per game and Cerra 61st

Taranto is 78th and Hopper 43rd

I would take Hewett over Taranto and Cerra over Hopper all day, except for the fact that Taranto is quite a bit younger than Hewett and has a more front half game.

My point is that they are great pick ups but relative to the draft and salary capital they have to surrender versus the duo we picked up last season who are at worst their peers is chalk and cheese.

Of course I’d have them at the Baggers, but you don’t build your club around two decent midfielders. 7 year contracts are for players you build your club around, like Charlie.

This post deviates from the points made previously quite significantly.
IMO the best of both of Hopper & Taranto is better than that of Cerra & Hewett - the Tigers obviously see the two as key building blocks for the post Martin/Cotchin years & whilst 7 years is significant, it takes them through to their early 30s.
The question for me is around the structure of the deal & the ease of getting out from under it, if say, Hopper's body doesn't hold up.
Given Charlie's history, there's significant risk in handing out a lengthy contract to him too.

 

[Benaly28]

Taranto will be All Australian next year. Lock it in. He’s that good.

Open the other eye people.

Won’t make top 40 squad.


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[Arr0w]

Tarranto is older than Cerra, but if the trade value was similar, I would take Taranto everyday of the week

 

[Choc Milk]

It really is amazing how much crap people in the media spout about * being on the verge of something special or whatever.

Our list has * covered everywhere and you’d never read articles like that about us in the media. Not that I’d want to. I get the shakes just thinking about outsiders being nice to us.

The media is a business. Essendon potentially making top 4 means clicks, its called content! I can't get over how people don't understand this.

Clicks means advertising revenue

 

[RPCB]

The media is a business. Essendon potentially making top 4 means clicks, its called content! I can't get over how people don't understand this.

Clicks means advertising revenue

I think everyone understands that.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

This post deviates from the points made previously quite significantly.
IMO the best of both of Hopper & Taranto is better than that of Cerra & Hewett - the Tigers obviously see the two as key building blocks for the post Martin/Cotchin years & whilst 7 years is significant, it takes them through to their early 30s.
The question for me is around the structure of the deal & the ease of getting out from under it, if say, Hopper's body doesn't hold up.
Given Charlie's history, there's significant risk in handing out a lengthy contract to him too.

It doesn’t deviate at all, you just can’t interpret context without me elaborating so you’ve extrapolated a made up argument in your own head.

They will be good for the Tigers but it is poor list management in my opinion. I could of course be wrong, I’m not an expert. There are risks to every list management decision including indecision/non-decision.

The intangible factor is the X-factor of Taranto, but will he burst through and hit the ceiling he was expect to hit? Perhaps I’m a little jaded by Tigs supporters who taunted me for suggesting that Taranto could be every bit as good as Shai Bolton in a redraft thread a few months back. So now I’m underrating him given that he’s getting to the Tigers and their supporters are raving as if they’ve just nabbed Chris Judd.

I think Charlie is a responsible risk as he is a 193cm KPF with a Coleman medal under his belt who can turn games in a heartbeat. He is absolutely indispensable to our team and incomparable to Taranto and Hopper.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Tarranto is older than Cerra, but if the trade value was similar, I would take Taranto everyday of the week

Yes and he’s a better player than Cerra too, but it’s a made up scenario as the Tigers will be paying much more for him than we did Cerra - which is essentially the crux of my argument

 

[Red_man2008]

Exit meeting for acres this week (early) nomination will happen straight afterwards (to Carlton).

 

[reubsblues]

Exit meeting for acres this week (early) nomination will happen straight afterwards (to Carlton).

Is this what you've heard or hoping?

 

[Gointocarlton]

Exit meeting for acres this week (early) nomination will happen straight afterwards (to Carlton).

Great, coming to us to get his knee fixed and rehabbed?

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Great, coming to us to get his knee fixed and rehabbed?

Given what AR has achieved with Curnow, Docherty and Marchbank I’d imagine this would be a good outcome for all parties? Not sure there’s any need to be facetious. Acres is a quality pickup that fills a need without giving up too much.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Given what AR has achieved with Curnow, Docherty and Marchbank I’d imagine this would be a good outcome for all parties? Not sure there’s any need to be facetious. Acres is a quality pickup that fills a need without giving up too much.

No doubt he is quality, played a ripper on one leg for most of the night. Just hope its not a serious knee injury. Would be nice to get a player like that in injury free for change.

 

[BlueJet]

It doesn’t deviate at all, you just can’t interpret context without me elaborating so you’ve extrapolated a made up argument in your own head.

They will be good for the Tigers but it is poor list management in my opinion. I could of course be wrong, I’m not an expert. There are risks to every list management decision including indecision/non-decision.

The intangible factor is the X-factor of Taranto, but will he burst through and hit the ceiling he was expect to hit? Perhaps I’m a little jaded by Tigs supporters who taunted me for suggesting that Taranto could be every bit as good as Shai Bolton in a redraft thread a few months back. So now I’m underrating him given that he’s getting to the Tigers and their supporters are raving as if they’ve just nabbed Chris Judd.

I think Charlie is a responsible risk as he is a 193cm KPF with a Coleman medal under his belt who can turn games in a heartbeat. He is absolutely indispensable to our team and incomparable to Taranto and Hopper.

Your inability to concisely communicate a point is most assuredly, not my problem but play on..
Charlie can be a genuine matchwinner but given his price point contrasted with games played, he too does carry a significant amount of risk.
We see it as being worthwhile, the Tigers no doubt see the acquisition of two A/B+ Grade mids as extending their window of contention- the Tigers have their Charlie in Dusty so they don't need them to be regular matchwinners, they will keep him from getting too banged up, however.
The 7 years may be problematic toward the backend of the contracts but if a midfield of Dusty, Prestia, Taranto, Hopper, Cotchin & Baker is able to get them another flag, I doubt that they'd be even remotely worried about it.