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[gouki88]

Just regurgitating one liners like victim
Blaming so you don’t have to think critically

You think you're a critical thinker because you don't believe bad things happen to marginalised groups?

No, you're just bigoted. Or at least you are when North is adversely impacted.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Or at least you are when North is adversely impacted.

Bingo

 

[the big lebowski]

You think you're a critical thinker because you don't believe bad things happen to marginalised groups?

No, you're just bigoted. Or at least you are when North is adversely impacted.

And now you’re a bigot and prejudice

You said “you don’t believe bad things happen to marginalised people”

WRONG WRONG WRONG

Erroneous on all counts.

I know bad things happen to marginalised people. For a fact.

But in that sentence you’ve just

A) shown you believe an allegations of wrongdoing against marginalised people and a complete lack of being able to independently analyse a specific set of circumstances

B) personally accused me of bigotry becuase I don’t automatically believe every accusation and take each issue on its merits. The irony of your prejudice is mind blowing

Absolutely cooked and a sad reflection on society you are

 

[joey_jo_jo]

And now you’re a bigot and prejudice

You said “you don’t believe bad things happen to marginalised people”

WRONG WRONG WRONG

Erroneous on all counts.

I know bad things happen to marginalised people. For a fact.

But in that sentence you’ve just

A) shown you believe an allegations of wrongdoing against marginalised people and a complete lack of being able to independently analyse a specific set of circumstances

B) personally accused me of bigotry becuase I don’t automatically believe every accusation and take each issue on its merits. The irony of your prejudice is mind blowing

Absolutely cooked and a sad reflection on society you are

Breaking news: Bigots think being called bigot is the greatest offense of all

 

[the big lebowski]

Bingo

Do you think players were physically restrained and unable to use a phone, email, social media etc?

Do you believe that the players association that were made aware of the situation thought there was an issue. Never mind the police.

Do you think accusers are going to get paid lots of money without ever being formally identified in some kind of settlement?

Do you believe one non medical professional can tell definitively why another woman had a miscarriage?

Do you think it’s makes sense that an offical coerced a man into telling his GF to get an abortion, they didn’t, and then 12 months later they do get an abortion, without ever discussing it with said offical again?

Please tell me what you think about these points

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

Lol had his phone taken off him. Was he locked in a room as well. My god what some of you clearly want to believe…….

Was it years of forced separation? It blows my mind how people can’t think for themselves at all.

These are adults. Not captive children. They can and did make decisions for themselves.

Wake up to reality

This is a really poor take. You clearly have a privilege blind spot if you can't see the power imbalance at play.

 

[the big lebowski]

Breaking news: Bigots think being called bigot is the greatest offense of all

Breaking news. Everyone is different and you can’t lump everyone into the same boat.

 

[the big lebowski]

This is a really poor take. You clearly have a privilege blind spot if you can't see the power imbalance at play.

So there is a power imbalance? And?

That stopped a player from writing an email? Bizarre

 

[gouki88]

And now you’re a bigot and prejudice

You said “you don’t believe bad things happen to marginalised people”

WRONG WRONG WRONG

Erroneous on all counts.

I know bad things happen to marginalised people. For a fact.

But in that sentence you’ve just

A) shown you believe an allegations of wrongdoing against marginalised people and a complete lack of being able to independently analyse a specific set of circumstances

B) personally accused me of bigotry becuase I don’t automatically believe every accusation and take each issue on its merits. The irony of your prejudice is mind blowing

Absolutely cooked and a sad reflection on society you are

More mad ramblings of a bigot

 

[the big lebowski]

This is a really poor take. You clearly have a privilege blind spot if you can't see the power imbalance at play.

Incidentally that power imbalance allegedly resulted in a player not getting an abortion they were allegedly told to get.

So which is it? The player didn’t do what they were told? Or they did do what they were told?

 

[gouki88]

Incidentally that power imbalance allegedly resulted in a player not getting an abortion they were allegedly told to get.

So which is it? The player didn’t do what they were told? Or they did do what they were told?

Are you all there?

 

[the big lebowski]

More mad ramblings of a bigot

Address the points

Or try to

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Breaking news. Everyone is different and you can’t lump everyone into the same boat.

You mean like a coach shouldn't treat an indigenous player like luke hodge because theyre from different backgrounds and something thats ok with hodge can be a traumatic event for indigenous player?

 

[the big lebowski]

You mean like a coach shouldn't treat an indigenous player like luke hodge because theyre from different backgrounds and something thats ok with hodge can be a traumatic event for indigenous player?

Anything can be traumatic to a stranger. Regardless of background. Indigenous people don’t own trauma.

 

[gouki88]

Address the points

Or try to

What points? You don't make sense

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Anything can be traumatic to a stranger. Regardless of background. Indigenous people don’t own trauma.

Completely missed my point didnt you...

 

[the big lebowski]

What points? You don't make sense

1: do you think to players were physically made to move and cut off contact? Or was it suggested?

If it was a physical barrier, do you think they could use a land line, an email, social
Media to contact whoever they wanted?

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

Anything can be traumatic to a stranger. Regardless of background. Indigenous people don’t own trauma.

You're embarrassing yourself and our club

 

[the big lebowski]

Completely missed my point didnt you...

I got it. What might not be traumatic for one person, could cause trauma to another.

 

[Laphroaig]

Yeah, no surprise you don’t get it.

Keep yelling at clouds.

Ahh.

You don't understand. The first point of resort for people with only one idea and no ability to question it.

So simplistic formulaic insults are the only way to go, I guess..

 

[gouki88]

1: do you think to players were physically made to move and cut off contact? Or was it suggested?

If it was a physical barrier, do you think they could use a land line, an email, social
Media to contact whoever they wanted?

Read the article and the subsequent reporting. Not sure why you're commenting on this despite not having done so.

 

[the big lebowski]

Ahh.

You don't understand. The first point of resort for people with only one idea and no ability to question it.

So simplistic formulaic insults are the only way to go, I guess..

Ironically no one is willing to discuss any of the points I’ve raised other than to abuse me or spit one line catch phrases.

 

[gouki88]

Ahh.

You don't understand. The first point of resort for people with only one idea and no ability to question it.

So simplistic formulaic insults are the only way to go, I guess..

Given your displays in this thread, it's all that was really needed.

 

[gouki88]

Ironically no one is willing to discuss any of the points I’ve raised other than to abuse me or spit one line catch phrases.

Your "points" are the incoherent ramblings of someone who has paid no attention to how the story has unfolded

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

Only a person with an agenda would cite club wide embarrassment with one person opinion on an Internet forum.

You got me, my agenda is to call out bigoted views.