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[faible]

I was just trying to be polite (re "undecided")

I genuinely don't think there's any 'obvious' delistings from the younger cohort at this point, Lord is likely to get squeezed out even if he shows good signs because we have a lot of options in the HBF role.

It's a good position to be in, albeit having a speculative bunch of kids means a lot of them probably won't work out.

 

[Yoda_]

I genuinely don't think there's any 'obvious' delistings from the younger cohort at this point, Lord is likely to get squeezed out even if he shows good signs because we have a lot of options in the HBF role.

It's a good position to be in, albeit having a speculative bunch of kids means a lot of them probably won't work out.

I actually think that Adrian Dodoro has hedged his bets in the last two off seasons that list sizes will expand by over populating the list during the season (LTI's + mid seaso draftees + SSP picks) and hoping he doesn't need to cut nearly as hard as needed. Retirments have helped in 2022 (Smith ,Hurley in particular)

 

[Keystone agony]

If our small forwards dont jump then id like to look at Lohmann for the right price

OOC, away from home

Probably hard to get a gig with brisbane small fwds of Cameron, McCarthy, Rayner, Bailey ect

Although Is hard to move 2nd year players and there value doesnt seem to drop much

 

[Cup_o_Jobe]

Am I reading too much into it by thinking that if we select O'Keeffe with the SSP slot, it's because we know Bryan's papers are stamped to another club (I'm going to say St Kilda, it's always bloody St Kilda) by year's end? Would seem surplus to requirements otherwise.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

If our small forwards dont jump then id like to look at Lohmann for the right price

OOC, away from home

Probably hard to get a gig with brisbane small fwds of Cameron, McCarthy, Rayner, Bailey ect

Although Is hard to move 2nd year players and there value doesnt seem to drop much

I'd love to have a crack at him. He's got everything you want in a small forward. They played him pretty early and McCarthy ain't getting any younger. My guess is he plays a lot this year and they lock him down.

 

[citizen-erased]

Am I reading too much into it by thinking that if we select O'Keeffe with the SSP slot, it's because we know Bryan's papers are stamped to another club (I'm going to say St Kilda, it's always bloody St Kilda) by year's end? Would seem surplus to requirements otherwise.

i'd add it's also potential insurance for a Phillips retirement

Draper + Bryan w/Wright/Weideman as the small cameo support role.
O'Keeffe becomes our developing kid.

Still leaves us quite young though.

 

[Keystone agony]

I'd love to have a crack at him. He's got everything you want in a small forward. They played him pretty early and McCarthy ain't getting any younger. My guess is he plays a lot this year and they lock him down.

Yeh i was impressed

Seems like a taller, more dynamic, agile Cory Weightman

Lets hope for our sake he cant crack the strong 22 and wants home

 

[andleanback]

Am I reading too much into it by thinking that if we select O'Keeffe with the SSP slot, it's because we know Bryan's papers are stamped to another club (I'm going to say St Kilda, it's always bloody St Kilda) by year's end? Would seem surplus to requirements otherwise.

They have Heath coming through. Who is moreorless what byran is, in terms of development.

 

[citizen-erased]

They have Heath coming through. Who is moreorless what byran is, in terms of development.

Pies would be my watchpoint. Have really cut hard on the experienced rucks of late.
Cats could take a look too.

 

[andleanback]

Pies would be my watchpoint. Have really cut hard on the experienced rucks of late.
Cats could take a look too.

Cats took Conway in the 20s ‘21 draft. Wouldn’t be surprised if he plays games this year and is close to their no1 by 2024.

Plenty of clubs could go after Bryan but unless he plays large chunks of the year as a dual ruck for us this year he would only be moving laterally to be a no2 somewhere else. Doubt someone would hand him the keys to he their no1 ruck if he’s not performing at afl level.

With the sub rule change this year and the ability to sub out, you’ll see almost all clubs playing 2 rucks like what happened the first time around. With the ability to sub one off if they aren’t impacting the game.

 

[Keystone agony]

Cats took Conway in the 20s ‘21 draft. Wouldn’t be surprised if he plays games this year and is close to their no1 by 2024.

Plenty of clubs could go after Bryan but unless he plays large chunks of the year as a dual ruck for us this year he would only be moving laterally to be a no2 somewhere else. Doubt someone would hand him the keys to he their no1 ruck if he’s not performing at afl level.

With the sub rule change this year and the ability to sub out, you’ll see almost all clubs playing 2 rucks like what happened the first time around. With the ability to sub one off if they aren’t impacting the game.

Doubt Conway is the number 1 ruck st cats in 2024

Unless they pack up ship with all the older guys at once and say rebuild time which i dont see happening. Theyll believe they can win the flag in 2024

Theyll want someone more mature than a Conway

Took Tim English whos very talented his 6th year to be giving the reign

 

[andleanback]

Doubt Conway is the number 1 ruck st cats in 2024

Unless they pack up ship with all the older guys at once and say rebuild time which i dont see happening. Theyll believe they can win the flag in 2024

Theyll want someone more mature than a Conway

Took Tim English whos very talented his 6th year to be giving the reign

Tim English was playing full time ruck in his 3rd year?
Ceglar won’t be there in 2024, Stanley will be getting on at that point. Not saying he’ll last the season but high chance Conway would be their starting ruck in round 1. Was more than accomplished ruck as a 19yo in the vfl, can find plenty of the ball and is a presence around the ground.
Who says anything about rebuild? In 2013 cats were one of the best side in the competition and blicavs played as their full time ruck in his first year. Were geelong in rebuild mode starting de koning at full back?

 

[Keystone agony]

Tim English was playing full time ruck in his 3rd year?
Ceglar won’t be there in 2024, Stanley will be getting on at that point. Not saying he’ll last the season but high chance Conway would be their starting ruck in round 1. Was more than accomplished ruck as a 19yo in the vfl, can find plenty of the ball and is a presence around the ground.
Who says anything about rebuild? In 2013 cats were one of the best side in the competition and blicavs played as their full time ruck in his first year. Were geelong in rebuild mode starting de koning at full back?

That isnt true

The cats had Mcintosh, Simpson, Vardy and West on the list

They played 29 games between them. Some times 2 of them played but always 1. Blic was a chop out

I dont disgree that there is very good chance Ceglar and Stanley gone, just think they will do what they usually do and bring someone in

 

[andleanback]

That isnt true

The cats had Mcintosh, Simpson, Vardy and West on the list

They played 29 games between them. Some times 2 of them played but always 1. Blic was a chop out

I dont disgree that there is very good chance Ceglar and Stanley gone, just think they will do what they usually do and bring someone in

Yeah I never said he was the choice but due to circumstances he played as their ruck for a majority of the year. If they were planning on bringing someone in why waste 2 2nd rounders on rucks (Conway and neale). Conway is their future, the same way it was clear draper was ours in 2018.

 

[Keystone agony]

Yeah I never said he was the choice but due to circumstances he played as their ruck for a majority of the year. If they were planning on bringing someone in why waste 2 2nd rounders on rucks (Conway and neale). Conway is their future, the same way it was clear draper was ours in 2018.

Conway is there future....not 2024 imo if theyre not regenerating and still having a crack which i suspect they will be still

Neale is a key fwd 1st

I mean if hes a freak show then he denies history. But havnt heard that

 

[andleanback]

Conway is there future....not 2024 imo if theyre not regenerating and still having a crack which i suspect they will be still

Neale is a key fwd 1st

I mean if hes a freak show then he denies history. But havnt heard that

He played ruck as an u18 he’ll definitely be a fwd ruck, with the ability to play full time if needed

 

[Keystone agony]

He played ruck as an u18 he’ll definitely be a fwd ruck, with the ability to play full time if needed

He was yeh. Theyre playing and training him up as a kpf

 

[Old Campaigner]

Am I reading too much into it by thinking that if we select O'Keeffe with the SSP slot, it's because we know Bryan's papers are stamped to another club (I'm going to say St Kilda, it's always bloody St Kilda) by year's end? Would seem surplus to requirements otherwise.

You can reasonably expect a 4-5 year lead time for rucks to develop into genuinely effective, impactful players so it's more likely to be just ensuring we have continuity in that part of the ground.

 

[Keystone agony]

You can reasonably expect a 4-5 year lead time for rucks to develop into genuinely effective, impactful players so it's more likely to be just ensuring we have continuity in that part of the ground.

Also dont really want a developing 19/20 yr old in 3rd season as your 2nd ruck unless they show alot in there first 2 years for you to be confident in doing so

 

[eth-dog]

Can see any of Adelaide, Collingwood, Port, Richmond, St Kilda or the Dogs going after Bryan.

We should be looking at players like Flynn/Briggs, Lynch, Xerri/CCJ, Hayes, Soldo or Sweet as back up rucks if Phillips retired and Bryan leaves. Flynn is probably my preference right now

 

[ghostdog]

Can see any of Adelaide, Collingwood, Port, Richmond, St Kilda or the Dogs going after Bryan.

We should be looking at players like Flynn/Briggs, Lynch, Xerri/CCJ, Hayes, Soldo or Sweet as back up rucks if Phillips retired and Bryan leaves. Flynn is probably my preference right now

If the sub rule change means we play two rucks, I hope Bryan stays. Phillips surely won't play after this season. Bryan apparently outplayed Draper in the intraclub the other day. They need to be our 1-2 punch.

 

[eth-dog]

If the sub rule change means we play two rucks, I hope Bryan stays. Phillips surely won't play after this season. Bryan apparently outplayed Draper in the intraclub the other day. They need to be our 1-2 punch.

I think he needs to work on his forward craft still. Would rather play the extra forward early whilst he does that then bring him in as that second ruck.

 

[ghostdog]

I think he needs to work on his forward craft still. Would rather play the extra forward early whilst he does that then bring him in as that second ruck.

Yeah I wish he'd hurry up already. More specialist coaches now. Hopefully he's not being timid and has also put on a little bit more size.

 

[ant555]

I think he needs to work on his forward craft still. Would rather play the extra forward early whilst he does that then bring him in as that second ruck.

When he is the number one ruck by the end of the year we will want to be keeping him

 

[Keystone agony]

Jack Cleaver (East Fremantle) has come over to train on as an SPP or VFL if he misses out

This is what i said when asked about him and Darcy Jones before draft

Ive watched far more of D.Jones than Cleaver

With Cleaver hes a great size already and his stat lines are super impressive for League level. Im surprised hes not being mentioned more and holding your spot in a side that probably couldve been in the WAFL GF is also nothing to be sneezed about. From memory a few thought his game vs SA was also quite decent. Seems an honest half back. I havnt seen enough maybe his knock not having any outstanding traits

Anyway im a big fan of D.Jones. The query as to where he gets picked will be whether he is considered capable as a small forward. I actually think hes very capable as a small forward. Think hes better than Motlop from last year who went at 24, just hes so good as a midfielder that he hasnt been given the chance fwd much. He performed very well in the league in a small fwd role.

His obvious knock and only knock is really his size.

Someone could well be getting an elite small forward later in the draft 30^. He has the speed for it, goal sense and he seems a very disciplined character who will have the mentality to apply defensive pressure that is needed from small forwards

Its just whether hes a Zac Fisher or can turn into a genuine small forward

Wont surprise me if eagles look hard at him with pick ~26 if thats what they get in exchange for Rioli

Hes a robust half back flanker, no thrills type

Performed very well against men in WAFL aide that was unlucky not to make a grandfinal. Not to be sneezed out as a 17yr old

Is ready to go type. Without thinking too much of a player comparison id say Vlastuin without maybe the intercept marking for now