Toast Hawks made finals in 2024! - Hawks finals discussion

[Lawsy]

Me too, not to mention we were two goals up in the VFL game when we arrived. (it's us isn't it?)

It could be me, I have only been in attendance for one win since I came back to Australia in 2019, the last game of 2020 when we beat the Suns at AO. Pies at AO then following week Suns at Metricon on the list this year so hoping for a better result in each.

 

[parsons nose]

It's the tough start that's going to be a bigger issue.

The first few rounds of the season generally throw up some surprising results.

 

[Thrashor]

Nope

 

[hawker79]

i dont think finals is a realistic goal for 2024. Next year yes, if we see strong progress this year and finish anywhere from 10th to 14th, then pushing for finals next year should be a strong possibility. We need to be able to stop teams getting on a roll with us which happened too much last year and as we saw against the dogs yesterday. Forward line is a huge improvement on last year and our midfield is very strong, hopefully we dont see too many injuries and our backline can cope with the outs and if we can recruit possibly via trade a proven KPD then it could go a long way to seeing us really push into a top 8 side next year.

 

[ShoveYourCOLA]

I’d just be happy to avoid the spoon at this point

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[DogDaySonny]

Josh: Do you possibly think Hawthorn can make finals now?

Damo: Well, yes.

 

[KermitJagger]

i dont think finals is a realistic goal for 2024. Next year yes, if we see strong progress this year and finish anywhere from 10th to 14th, then pushing for finals next year should be a strong possibility. We need to be able to stop teams getting on a roll with us which happened too much last year and as we saw against the dogs yesterday. Forward line is a huge improvement on last year and our midfield is very strong, hopefully we dont see too many injuries and our backline can cope with the outs and if we can recruit possibly via trade a proven KPD then it could go a long way to seeing us really push into a top 8 side next year.

Who wants to be realistic?

 

[Dewwwww]

Next 3 games are huge.

Play the way we have been playing and we should account for GWS / tigers and eagles. Should be at worst a game or percentage out of the 8 and then the rest of the season is in our hands

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

It’s just nice to be having these thoughts, to be honest.

 

[Kanga Commando]

It’s just nice to be having these thoughts, to be honest.

true.

The other nice feeling is knowing we have genuinely turned the corner.

 

[Blahsta]

true.

The other nice feeling is knowing we have genuinely turned the corner.

Yep, I've gone from hoping for a good effort each week early in the year, to thinking we're up for the challenge to win each week.

 

[Bardo State]

Can probably only lose 2 (maybe 3) games for the rest of the year to make it work.

Have to win EVERY game we should (Richmond, North, WC, Adelaide) and go 4-2 for the games against GWS, Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong and Freo.

It's a narrow window which starts to look possible if the boys beat the Giants.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Win the next two games (GWS at Tassie and Richmond at the MCG) and we have have the bye and turn into the home stretch at 7/7.

I think we will need thirteen wins to make it which means we need to win 6 out of 9 from the bye on-wards which is difficult but not impossible.

Next weeks game is the one though, we need to beat GWS.

 

[scrim reaper]

If we win the next 3 games (GWS, Richmond, WCE) then I think we are a chance.

Less likely than likely but if we're playing meaningful footy into the last month of the season that would be fantastic for the development of the group experiencing some high pressure games.

Worth noting the last 2 games of the season are vs Richmond and North...

 

[cryptor]

Assuming we don't smack some teams to repair our percentage we'll probably need minimum 13 wins to make the 8.

We've got 5 banked so far.

Tigers x 2, North and Eagles have to be certain wins if we're going to be a top 8 side. +4 = 9 wins.

Giants @ UTAS and Freo @ UTAS are must win as the home team down at the Tassie fortress. +2 = 11 wins.

Then we just need to pick up 2 more from Cats @ GMHBA, Pies @ MCG, Crows @ AO, Giants @ Manuka, Blues @ MCG.

I think Cats are pretty gettable on their recent form and I'll back us to pick up 1 or 2 of the others if we continue on our current trajectory.

Challenge is that I don't think many sides will sleep on us now.

 

[scrim reaper]

Assuming we don't smack some teams to repair our percentage we'll probably need minimum 13 wins to make the 8.

We've got 5 banked so far.

Tigers x 2, North and Eagles have to be certain wins if we're going to be a top 8 side. +4 = 9 wins.

Giants @ UTAS and Freo @ UTAS are must win as the home team down at the Tassie fortress. +2 = 11 wins.

Then we just need to pick up 2 more from Cats @ GMHBA, Pies @ MCG, Crows @ AO, Giants @ Manuka, Blues @ MCG.

I think Cats are pretty gettable on their recent form and I'll back us to pick up 1 or 2 of the others if we continue on our current trajectory.

Challenge is that I don't think many sides will sleep on us now.

Great summary. From this I think we will just miss out, ending up anywhere from 9th-12th.

Hopefully I am wrong!

 

[cryptor]

Great summary. From this I think we will just miss out, ending up anywhere from 9th-12th.

Hopefully I am wrong!

It will be heart breaking if that Port loss costs us.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Challenge is that I don't think many sides will sleep on us now.

It’s one of the biggest myths in Footy, that clubs take it easy in planning for their opponents, depending on where they are sitting on the ladder or their form line.

 

[TylerDurden]

Assuming we don't smack some teams to repair our percentage we'll probably need minimum 13 wins to make the 8.

We've got 5 banked so far.

Tigers x 2, North and Eagles have to be certain wins if we're going to be a top 8 side. +4 = 9 wins.

Giants @ UTAS and Freo @ UTAS are must win as the home team down at the Tassie fortress. +2 = 11 wins.

Then we just need to pick up 2 more from Cats @ GMHBA, Pies @ MCG, Crows @ AO, Giants @ Manuka, Blues @ MCG.

I think Cats are pretty gettable on their recent form and I'll back us to pick up 1 or 2 of the others if we continue on our current trajectory.

Challenge is that I don't think many sides will sleep on us now.

We win the next 4 and we'll make it.

That Cats game will be epic. I've already told my son we're going.

 

[peetoo]

Can probably only lose 2 (maybe 3) games for the rest of the year to make it work.

Have to win EVERY game we should (Richmond, North, WC, Adelaide) and go 4-2 for the games against GWS, Carlton, Collingwood, Geelong and Freo.

It's a narrow window which starts to look possible if the boys beat the Giants.

That’s 3 in a row v supposedly good opponents so a threshold in itself

I say supposedly cos the footy world is harsh on the teams after we beat them

 

[Sixpence]

It will be heart breaking if that Port loss costs us.

It'll be hard to say if it does or not. Worpel made a comment on the Footy Show that had we not lost that game, we may not have won against Brisbane or Adelaide. It's an interesting comment, I think that loss taught us a very valuable lesson in how to hold our lead in the last quarter, which we clearly learned from in the next two games, whilst still giving us the belief we can match it with top teams.

Same can be said for losing the 2012 GF, would we still have three-peated without the pain and drive coming from that loss?

Real sliding doors moments! (Take note of what sliding doors means Damo, you purple headed ****wit!)

 

[Argy]

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I think that loss taught us a very valuable lesson in how to hold our lead in the last quarter, which we clearly learned from in the next two games, whilst still giving us the belief we can match it with top teams.

Same can be said for losing the 2012 GF, would we still have three-peated without the pain and drive coming from that loss?

Real sliding doors moments! (Take note of what sliding doors means Damo, you purple headed ****wit!)

Can't agree more.

 

[peetoo]

Getting 80% winning over the next 5 games would do wonders. Next test is 3 wins in a row. Harder as GWS had a longer break.

 

[Sixpence]

Getting 80% winning over the next 5 games would do wonders. Next test is 3 wins in a row. Harder as GWS had a longer break.

Teams coming off a bye typically do worse.