Where the AFL learned to rig its games

[Tiger Toffee]

cant believe people seriously think this

Do you think people don't cheat or is that you think it never happens in clean cut all above board Australia.

 

[Achilles Heel]

Do you think people don't cheat or is that you think it never happens in clean cut all above board Australia.

Come on Toffee , you know it only happens in (insert country here)

 

[Achilles Heel]

cant believe people seriously think this

Exhibit A

 

[Ralll]

I don't think the people in charge have the competency to execute such a conspiracy even if they wanted to.

 

[Achilles Heel]

I don't think the people in charge have the competency to execute such a conspiracy even if they wanted to.

Exhibit B

 

[RJK Tiger]

First time I noticed something was up was that game v swans in early 21 , like we re playing against an extra 4 , we were dead set cornholed that day frees 15-25 , and it soon became a theme
I’d love a QC to review that game , other noticeable rorts
2017 shai goal overturned by a blurred image arc said oh we can’t be convinced he didn’t touch it , rules since changed
V GC at marvel jack kicks a blinder from boundary post height , overturned coz lynch had a push and shove on goal line , like when that ever happen
V GC no one in our F50 we kick a long bomb in , GC defender on his own punches it thru from like 10m out , no tiger within 50m ,,,simply cheating
22 elim ARC decision , do I need to say anymore
I could go on and on and on

i don't really recall the 2021 Swans game, but the 2022 one where they denied Prestia the 50 after the siren i definitely do.

That moment legit looked like there could have been a revolution on the field. The players looked jacked. This was coming off a couple of years of us getting 4-8 50m penatlies a game & they legit just let a Swans player kick the ball 50m into the crowd when it was our free and Prestia had a kick after the siren from 60

FOUND IT!

Here.

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How many free kicks should we get in just this 2 minutes? Keep in mind, this was a game where there was SIXTY-ONE (!!!!) free kicks

1:32 mark - McCartin literally sits on the ball while Bolton lays a tackle with zero effort to get it out.

1:18 - a 50/50 call on a deliberate which you could easily see get called. Swans player gets the ball around 15-20m from the boundary facing the centre of the ground, does a full 180degree turn & somehow over handballs it out of bounds despite to swans players literally being 1m away from him

1:05 - Rowbottom gets a fairly soft high call that he dropped the head and leant into, while also diving on the ball with no intent to clear it out.

0:38 - Rioli is clearly bowled over in the back as the Swans player desperately tries to make contact with a Parker kick that was 100% a deliberate out of bounds. If he doesn't push Rioli into the ball, that is 100% a deliberate call.

0.00 - Free kick to Prestia. Swans kick it out of bounds. The Tiger players & BT instantly recognize that is a 100% a 50m penalty. Now this is the part that is interesting i find......

Why does the umpire who called the free-kick and was literally 1m from the play, go to his headphone to ask "rusco/Ozco?" what to do?

Why is this a play that requires a OFF-FIELD umpire(?) or someone else NOT on the ground in a officiating role, to rule on the decision? Is this even in the definition of how they are meant to be used? Was this not a umpire only called upon in scoring situations between a goal, point etc?


Rasheed Wallace in his videos talks, at length, about how the refs were given "secret email addresses" before each game to tell them how to officiate the match to the result they intended & that this was common knowledge. Well, when you have a mic directly into the umps ear - do you need a secret email address ? There is absolutely no reason i see why the onfield umpire needs to refer to an off-field person on this call. How is a person, not even on the ground, in a better position to make this decision..... Vs the guy who literally just umpired 61 free kicks in the match without this mystery persons input

Smoking. Guns. Everywhere.


I IMPLORE Tiger fans who have an archive of our games from 2021-2023 to re-watch, or make available, these games for others to re-watch. There are smoking guns EVERYWHERE. We just need to put them together.

If someone has the games, then PM me. I will do it on my own if i have to. I just need the games to break down.

Legit - what was the purpose or reason that the field umpire needed to refer with someone off-field on what call to make in that moment?

 

[RJK Tiger]

I don't think the people in charge have the competency to execute such a conspiracy even if they wanted to.

read my post above. They clearly do.

What purpose is the field umpire going to the off-field umpire to make a call on a 50m decision that is not directly related to a score? Are off-field umpires meant to be assisting in "around the ground" decisions?

The only people here that are incompetent.... is us. For not getting off our arse and doing our homework and building the case. There is a swell of momentum around the umpiring and its stinkyness atm - if we ever wanted some level of justice on what has occured, its now.

Someone needs to make a video showing the corruption. Back. To Back. To Back. To Back etc,

When something is THIS BLATANT, all you need to do is not let the conversation die & time will do the rest.

 

[RJK Tiger]

And **** it - im going to say it

The fact that the 2 guys who were in the best position to SPEAK UP about the bullshit corruption we were coping each and every week in Benny Gale & Damien Hardwick chose NEVER to speak out publicly over the corruption, then moved straight into coveted AFL roles in coaching the Suns and setting up the Expansion Devils stinks to ****ing hell.

Why the f did the club not SPEAK UP about this shit? Did both guys have knowledge that extremely cushy roles are on the horizon if they can prove they are "team players"?

Benny & Dimma taking these jobs is like becoming the butler to your wifes new bull. Would you want to go work for the campaigners that just ****ed the love of your life in front of you?

 

[Bojangles17]

i don't really recall the 2021 Swans game, but the 2022 one where they denied Prestia the 50 after the siren i definitely do.

That moment legit looked like there could have been a revolution on the field. The players looked jacked. This was coming off a couple of years of us getting 4-8 50m penatlies a game & they legit just let a Swans player kick the ball 50m into the crowd when it was our free and Prestia had a kick after the siren from 60

FOUND IT!

Here.

richmond vs swans final 2 minutes 2022 - - Video Search Results

The search engine that helps you find exactly what you're looking for. Find the most relevant information, video, images, and answers from all across the Web.

au.video.search.yahoo.com

How many free kicks should we get in just this 2 minutes? Keep in mind, this was a game where there was SIXTY-ONE (!!!!) free kicks

1:32 mark - McCartin literally sits on the ball while Bolton lays a tackle with zero effort to get it out.

1:18 - a 50/50 call on a deliberate which you could easily see get called. Swans player gets the ball around 15-20m from the boundary facing the centre of the ground, does a full 180degree turn & somehow over handballs it out of bounds despite to swans players literally being 1m away from him

1:05 - Rowbottom gets a fairly soft high call that he dropped the head and leant into, while also diving on the ball with no intent to clear it out.

0:38 - Rioli is clearly bowled over in the back as the Swans player desperately tries to make contact with a Parker kick that was 100% a deliberate out of bounds. If he doesn't push Rioli into the ball, that is 100% a deliberate call.

0.00 - Free kick to Prestia. Swans kick it out of bounds. The Tiger players & BT instantly recognize that is a 100% a 50m penalty. Now this is the part that is interesting i find......

Why does the umpire who called the free-kick and was literally 1m from the play, go to his headphone to ask "rusco/Ozco?" what to do?

Why is this a play that requires a OFF-FIELD umpire(?) or someone else NOT on the ground in a officiating role, to rule on the decision? Is this even in the definition of how they are meant to be used? Was this not a umpire only called upon in scoring situations between a goal, point etc?


Rasheed Wallace in his videos talks, at length, about how the refs were given "secret email addresses" before each game to tell them how to officiate the match to the result they intended & that this was common knowledge. Well, when you have a mic directly into the umps ear - do you need a secret email address ? There is absolutely no reason i see why the onfield umpire needs to refer to an off-field person on this call. How is a person, not even on the ground, in a better position to make this decision..... Vs the guy who literally just umpired 61 free kicks in the match without this mystery persons input

Smoking. Guns. Everywhere.


I IMPLORE Tiger fans who have an archive of our games from 2021-2023 to re-watch, or make available, these games for others to re-watch. There are smoking guns EVERYWHERE. We just need to put them together.

If someone has the games, then PM me. I will do it on my own if i have to. I just need the games to break down.

Legit - what was the purpose or reason that the field umpire needed to refer with someone off-field on what call to make in that moment?

21 swans game was like r3 , few games into our premiership defence , really pantsed us and exploited new rules too , but got an armchair ride from the umps that day that crueled any chance if a comeback 15-25 frees , shit ton in front of goal

 

[RJK Tiger]

‘Want me to shut up?’: Witty Scott fires up on questions over umpiring, wounded Cat

‘Want me to shut up?’: Witty Scott fires up on questions over umpiring, wounded Cat

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Seriously, is this bloke the "Fox News" of the AFL?

I didn't watch the full game from last night, only the "Mini" on Kayo - but from that alone i could see Collingwood got reamed by the umps, as so often happens when you play the Cats - a team the AFL literally changed the rules for to help them stay relevant. How the Fk is this the guy "leading the charge"?

This is like Goebels appointing himself the head of the "Jews against Hate" community. It's almost like the AFL are trying to control the narrative on this by having their people play both sides so they can control it. Is there any other coach or team that has been given an arm-chair ride success by umpires and rule changes

when the Hawks beat the Cats in 2008 by making the decision to "rush" points deep in defence, what happened the next year? RULE CHANGE! You cannot rush a ball anymore

When we kept winning & they started to decline due to our zoned defences and chaos ball, what did they do?

RULE CHANGE! You can't move on the mark for a few years (ie until we died) to cause the game to become more stop/start which completely favoured their "control" style of play

This is all absolute bullshit, has gotta be a designed plan surely. How the fk is this guy "the voice against unfair umpiring?

 

[PetterdHoisted]

The Brissy elimination final goal overturn was a genuine scandal.

 

[RJK Tiger]

The Brissy elimination final goal overturn was a genuine scandal.

100%

No. 1000%.

The lil man i the ear has been whispering "**** Richmond" since 2020. Its f-ing obvious.

 

[jetbhag]

They rigged the game by bringing in rule changes.

6-6-6 rule - we use to play a man behind the ball, but this wasn't an issue since the game was invented.

Stand rule - we use to stop teams using the corridor, by blocking it off. This wasn't a issue since the game was invented.

The list goes on.....

 

[RJK Tiger]

They rigged the game by bringing in rule changes.

6-6-6 rule - we use to play a man behind the ball, but this wasn't an issue since the game was invented.

Stand rule - we use to stop teams using the corridor, by blocking it off. This wasn't a issue since the game was invented.

The list goes on.....

Yeah its really obvious at this point, especially to those who follow international sports and know - this is kinda the sad state of "normal" in professional sports. Its not unique or even unusual.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

They rigged the game by bringing in rule changes.

6-6-6 rule - we use to play a man behind the ball, but this wasn't an issue since the game was invented.

Stand rule - we use to stop teams using the corridor, by blocking it off. This wasn't a issue since the game was invented.

The list goes on.....

Indeed, a flurry of rule changes annually from 2018 - 2020 post-season.

Not a single rule change since.

Not one.

(or correct me if I'm wrong)

 

[jetbhag]

Indeed, a flurry of rule changes annually from 2018 - 2020 post-season.

Not a single rule change since.

Not one.

(or correct me if I'm wrong)

I think you're correct especially ones that have an impact on the game. The ones may have been; umpire dissent and the rush behind 10m zone or whatever!

 

[RJK Tiger]

Indeed, a flurry of rule changes annually from 2018 - 2020 post-season.

Not a single rule change since.

Not one.

(or correct me if I'm wrong)

Well why would you? The game is "the best its ever been" atm.....

 

[jetbhag]

Well why would you? The game is "the best its ever been" atm.....

Steve SCHOKING the cun......t

 

[The_Kraken]

Confirmation bias is real and it’s sad that social media fans the delusions of paranoiac personalities.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

Confirmation bias is real and it’s sad that social media fans the delusions of paranoiac personalities.

it's true, there's one born every minute!

 

[The_Kraken]

it's true, there's one born every minute!

The circle jerk of paranoia
The rush to prove that they too have the inside unknowable knowledge denied to the foolish unbeliever
The complete lack of proof except for “common sense” that they see with their own eyes

Some of it is shitposting.
But for those that actually believe this garbage, seek help.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

The circle jerk of paranoia
The rush to prove that they too have the inside unknowable knowledge denied to the foolish unbeliever
The complete lack of proof except for “common sense” that they see with their own eyes

Some of it is shitposting.
But for those that actually believe this garbage, seek help.

ridiculing language like 'paranoid circle jerk' just attempts to shut down discussion.

The 'war' on Richmond by the AFL was openly discussed at the time, even (and unusually) by commentators during games on CH7!!:
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6/8/2021
Jonathon Brown 2.30 minute mark first quarter.
"Damien hardwick spoke about it during the week, probably not happy with the trend of the game in general , maybe because it's not suiting Richmond like they'd like."

Huddo " the stand rule there's a view that it's probably hurt the tigers...brown"

Brown "yeap, I think the stand rule may have been brought in to combat the tigers, might’ve had a fair reason at AFL house I think..."
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Still for the life of me don't know what 'fair reason' AFL House had to target Richmond, or why Rchomnd needed to be 'combatted' in the first place, according to Browny (Dimma's open dislike of Docklands was the only obvious one for me).

BUT it requires an act of wilfull gullibility to suggest it is all 'paranoid circle jerking'.

 

[RJK Tiger]

ridiculing language like 'paranoid circle jerk' just attempts to shut down discussion.

The 'war' on Richmond by the AFL was openly discussed at the time, even (and unusually) by commentators during games on CH7!!:
-----------
6/8/2021
Jonathon Brown 2.30 minute mark first quarter.
"Damien hardwick spoke about it during the week, probably not happy with the trend of the game in general , maybe because it's not suiting Richmond like they'd like."

Huddo " the stand rule there's a view that it's probably hurt the tigers...brown"

Brown "yeap, I think the stand rule may have been brought in to combat the tigers, might’ve had a fair reason at AFL house I think..."
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Still for the life of me don't know what 'fair reason' AFL House had to target Richmond, or why Rchomnd needed to be 'combatted' in the first place, according to Browny (Dimma's open dislike of Docklands was the only obvious one for me).

BUT it requires an act of wilfull gullibility to suggest it is all 'paranoid circle jerking'.

Exactly right.

It sickens me that people refuse to believe their eyes & logic VS trusting institutions that have shown countless times, cannot be trusted.

Look at something like the JFK murder. For years a narrative of a loan gunman was believed despite clear evidence that it was literally impossible. To believe it, you needed to think a bullet could make 3 points of impact, and literally make a u-turn i mid-air. It also went against the entire movement of JFK;s head at the first point of impact. The people in Dallas on the day all believed there were multiple shooters & the interviews with those people said that clearly. Oswald was shot in a f-ing police station with 100's of police, reporters, witnesses present. The things that needed to happen to make that narrative work were mind boggling.

Now 65% of Americans accept that it was not a loan gunman. The only reason it took that long was because people trusted their institutions over their eyes and logic.

I know what i've been watching for 3 f-king years. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me for 3 ****ing years - then shame on me for being a dumbass. Fortunately, i don't believe for a second the AFL would not be low enough to do it

 

[The_Kraken]

Exactly right.

It sickens me that people refuse to believe their eyes & logic VS trusting institutions that have shown countless times, cannot be trusted.

Look at something like the JFK murder. For years a narrative of a loan gunman was believed despite clear evidence that it was literally impossible. To believe it, you needed to think a bullet could make 3 points of impact, and literally make a u-turn i mid-air. It also went against the entire movement of JFK;s head at the first point of impact. The people in Dallas on the day all believed there were multiple shooters & the interviews with those people said that clearly. Oswald was shot in a f-ing police station with 100's of police, reporters, witnesses present. The things that needed to happen to make that narrative work were mind boggling.

Now 65% of Americans accept that it was not a loan gunman. The only reason it took that long was because people trusted their institutions over their eyes and logic.

I know what i've been watching for 3 f-king years. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me for 3 ****ing years - then shame on me for being a dumbass. Fortunately, i don't believe for a second the AFL would not be low enough to do it

Wonderful.

Argues that he’s not a paranoid fantasist by going on a rant about JFK and Lee Harvey Oswald.
Now do the moon landing and soylent green.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

Exactly right.

It sickens me that people refuse to believe their eyes & logic VS trusting institutions that have shown countless times, cannot be trusted.

Look at something like the JFK murder. For years a narrative of a loan gunman was believed despite clear evidence that it was literally impossible. To believe it, you needed to think a bullet could make 3 points of impact, and literally make a u-turn i mid-air. It also went against the entire movement of JFK;s head at the first point of impact. The people in Dallas on the day all believed there were multiple shooters & the interviews with those people said that clearly. Oswald was shot in a f-ing police station with 100's of police, reporters, witnesses present. The things that needed to happen to make that narrative work were mind boggling.

Now 65% of Americans accept that it was not a loan gunman. The only reason it took that long was because people trusted their institutions over their eyes and logic.

I know what i've been watching for 3 f-king years. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me for 3 ****ing years - then shame on me for being a dumbass. Fortunately, i don't believe for a second the AFL would not be low enough to do it

Well I think COVID-19 'Wuhan lab origin' is a much more recent and clearer case of a 'lunatic' fringe theory 3 years ago, becoming today a very reasonable and discussable possibility.

It's just how far people can pass off 'coincidences' before they have to question:
Wuhan had a virology institute...ok sure...that specialised in coronoviruses from bats...oook sure....that was conducting gain-of-function experiments on said coronviruses...oooook, wait ummm....maybe it's reasonable to ask the question..?

It's the same with the recent AFL zoning rule changes.

Zoning rule changes since 1975:
1975: Centre square introduced, only 4 players allowed in it
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1996: Protected area around player taking set disposal REDUCED from 10-metre semi-circle to five-metre corridor on sides.
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2018-2020: 6-6-6 zoning introduced, kickouts safety zone massively widened (15-20 metres?), STAND introduced
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.

Now, for the football code that prides itself on not having zoning/offsides etc., that's either an insane statistical anomaly, or a group of zoning rules were introduced with a specific targetin mind...perhaps the dominant team of 2018-2020?

So the question is: how much statistical anomaly is your brain able to brush off?