Racing Caulfield Cup Day 2024

[Peter Doherty]

 

[Lunchtime]

Apparently Deny Knowledge out too

From Racing Victoria on X (formerly Twitter):

"Caulfield Cup Update:

The Danny O’Brien-trained Young Werther was re-inspected today due to a change in the horse’s gait and has been passed suitable to race.

The Anthony and Sam Freedman-trained Deny Knowledge was re-inspected today due to a change in the horse's gait and will be required to undergo another inspection prior to scratching time tomorrow to determine the horse's suitability to race.

Trainer Andrew Forsman notified RV earlier today of his decision to withdraw Positivity from the race.

All other runners have been passed suitable to race".

 

[Hamingja]

Yep, hasn't that joint turned to shit since they cosied up in bed with Ladbrokes and Kremlin.com. Their original stuff 2 or 3 years ago was real good, but I don't think the bloke has actually given a decent winning tip since Queman won the Oakleigh Plate this year. Their manikato night live stream was champagne comedy

Going from punting to content creation to selling a ratings system kind of says it all. If they struggle to make money off the punt these days, what hope are us mere mortals.

 

[Jamz]

Pre gelding form is irrelevent i would have thought.

He's a different horse his last three starts and is improving with each run.

FWIW he was beaten less then two lengths in the Tancred. Not running the distance is a stretch.

You'll probably get 100-1 about the winner of the Tancred tomorrow, if you think that form stacks up.

 

[FFB1]

Muramasa doubtful too

 

[Jugada]

Dropping like flies

 

[FFB1]

Grab the $26 TAB Muramasa Geelong cup before it goes

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

Grab the $26 TAB Muramasa Geelong cup before it goes

It's gone. $8 now

 

[FFB1]

It's gone. $8 now

Fair hasn’t budged still $36 there to trade

 

[toxic]

Any emergencies getting a run/chance?

 

[Lunchtime]

Any emergencies getting a run/chance?

Fancy Man is an emergency and will be getting a run. Ran 3rd in the Herbert Power Stakes last week.

 

[Waca Jr]

Grab the $26 TAB Muramasa Geelong cup before it goes

Wrong stable. Trent can't train

 

[FFB1]

Wrong stable. Trent can't train

Maybe so, but now out today a great Geelong arb opportunity on the fair if got $26

 

[The GOAT]

Muramasa scratched

 

[FFB1]

Heavy 8 point in time

 

[toxic]

 

[lightred]

Zardozi on top for me today.
Warmonger gets the conditions to bounce back into form if he's good enough.

Good luck punters!

 

[pacemaker]

Randwick
R6 Southport Tycoon place
R7 Growing empire place
$5.77 b365

 

[OhhhhhCyril]

Incredibly tough day overall. Not a lot of confidence in general.

Going to have something each way on Bella in the Everest.

Zardozi in the CC

Had a CC Calcutta at work last night, the Hayes boys were the guest speakers, without saying it, Wagga race 2 #1 short.. but should be winning. So I’ll back that.
Wide wide quaddies

 

[pacemaker]

Sayedaty Sadaty $21 / $6 pb
Zardozi $8 / $2.75 (probably will drift)

This

BOL!

 

[qarocks]

what is everyones verdict on handicapping each horse for a heavy track when say 2/3 of the field hasnt run on heavy before?

 

[FFB1]

what is everyones verdict on handicapping each horse for a heavy track when say 2/3 of the field hasnt run on heavy before?

I’m not handicapping them per se, just looking at R&S neurals on a wet track. All my pre form was out the window 6am this morning.

 

[pacemaker]

Dabble 2-4 real cash back for these races and race 3 randwick

Catoggio r1 caufield $5.50
Gallant son r2 caufield $3.10
Too much caviar r2 randwick $6

 

[qarocks]

I’m not handicapping them per se, just looking at R&S neurals on a wet track. All my pre form was out the window 6am this morning.

ive been reading this paper, which is pretty interesting

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257242950_Influence_of_Track_Surface_Condition_on_Racing_Times_of_Thoroughbred_Racehorses_in_Flat_Races

surely a modern professional track like caulfield, with several layers of track surface would have not turned into "slop" therefore it would perform more "soft like" than "heavy slop"

 

[FFB1]

ive been reading this paper, which is pretty interesting

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257242950_Influence_of_Track_Surface_Condition_on_Racing_Times_of_Thoroughbred_Racehorses_in_Flat_Races

surely a modern professional track like caulfield, with several layers of track surface would have not turned into "slop" therefore it would perform more "soft like" than "heavy slop"

Caulfield has always been a decent draining track, I can’t remember the last time it was slop. Wind there is more of a factor than condition for mine.

 

[2121]

Suns out here and there and it's a bit windy shouldn't get anywhere near bottomless.