Preview 2025 Rd 5 Carlton vs West Coast Saturday 12th April 1.20PM AEST @ Adelaide Oval

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


4 changes!

 

[Soapy V]

Having Harry firing on all cylinders and back to his best will make a massive difference.

Yes it really should be a comfortable Blues win and the Roos are gettable the following week as well.

Are we going to see Harry “firing”?

I’m a bit nervous about his selection. His form this year has been average. Even in 2s last week he was just okay. This on top of well documented issues that have caused him time off.

I just feel we have rushed him back. Issues he is dealing with don’t go away overnight

 

[branedotorg]

Arguably best on ground for Carlton last week. Ease up. 2 goals. 20 touches and kept Bobby hill quiet.

the obvious thing is he's too light to stop players moving at pace, he's shrugged off too easily.

agree with you though, his performance outside the 'big mistakes' has been good and his effort puts a number of our other players to shame

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

the obvious thing is he's too light to stop players moving at pace, he's shrugged off too easily.

agree with you though, his performance outside the 'big mistakes' has been good and his effort puts a number of our other players to shame

He’s still a pup. I’d rather him get shrugged off making an attempt than not. We’ve got more than a few who don’t do either.
Kid always has a crack, I’ll back him to be a 200 gamer.
Seems to be one that’s going to have fingers pointed at him by those looking for a victim.

 

[Stamos]

Really you would start Ollie? Have you seen a match this season?

I’m guessing you haven’t?

 

[CCurnow3picks]

It’s a bit of a “no win” situation this week. We win and it’s expected. We lose and it’s a disaster

Next 4 games of WCE, North, Geelong, Crows will tell us exactly where we are at and what needs to happening from there (hopefully)

No doubt there will be plenty of complaining either way .

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Ollie shut down Bobby hill while also getting 20 touches and kicking 2 goals

Ollie is a defensive liability.

He’s a natural winger - why we’ve tried to turn him into a HBF is beyond me.

What we lose in transition we lose more in defensive frailty.

Hopefully he lines up back where he does his best work.

 

[JJBagger]

Ollie is a defensive liability.

He’s a natural winger - why we’ve tried to turn him into a HBF is beyond me.

What we lose in transition we lose more in defensive frailty.

Hopefully he lines up back where he does his best work.

Aren’t we one of the best defences in the comp currently? We are doing that while Ollie is shutting down Dylan Moore and Bobby Hill

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Aren’t we one of the best defences in the comp currently? We are doing that while Ollie is shutting down Dylan Moore and Bobby Hill

TEAM defence!

We are the best is the comp at stopping oppo team transition - a feather in our cap.

It’s not just about the back 6 of course.

Using Ollie to shut down oppo forwards comes at the cost of our own transition.

We are the AFL’s worst offensive team in transition!

Ollie time & time again is blown out of contests, turns the ball over in defensive positions.

He’s not a defender.

If you want to waste his run & carry by using him as a defensive tagger, it comes at too high a cost.

That’s why we are;

AFL #1 stopping oppo transition
AFL #18 in our own forward transition

What happens when you turn the ball over so often in transition - you lose!

We need better balance!

 

[JJBagger]

TEAM defence!

We are the best is the comp at stopping oppo team transition - a feather in our cap.

It’s not just about the back 6 of course.

Using Ollie to shut down oppo forwards comes at the cost of our own transition.

We are the AFL’s worst offensive team in transition!

Ollie time & time again is blown out of contests, turns the ball over in defensive positions.

He’s not a defender.

If you want to waste his run & carry by using him as a defensive tagger, it comes at too high a cost.

That’s why we are;

AFL #1 stopping oppo transition
AFL #18 in our own forward transition

What happens when you turn the ball over so often in transition - you lose!

We need better balance!

I’ve never argued against any of that… but he’s getting his job done to a high level. That makes him not a liability. We are also 17th in ball movement, not 18th

 

[ESKIE]

Are we going to see Harry “firing”?

I’m a bit nervous about his selection. His form this year has been average. Even in 2s last week he was just okay. This on top of well documented issues that have caused him time off.

I just feel we have rushed him back. Issues he is dealing with don’t go away overnight

Kick an early goal, mates get around him he will feel better, probably a good game to return

 

[Doro]

Just get it on the boot and get it forward boys. No fluffing about with targets.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

I’ve never argued against any of that… but he’s getting his job done to a high level. That makes him not a liability. We are also 17th in ball movement, not 18th

17th awesome.

Let’s play Charlie at HB - no doubt he’d get his job done also.

 

[JJBagger]

17th awesome.

Let’s play Charlie at HB - no doubt he’d get his job done also.

Keep moving the goalposts

 

[Soapy V]

Kick an early goal, mates get around him he will feel better, probably a good game to return

Hope so but it’s a gamble

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Keep moving the goalposts

I’m stuck in D50 due to poor transition & endless turnovers - need to bring them closer…

 

[Accidental genius]

Really looking forward to this game.

As Bartel said, the trip to Adelaide should reinvigorate the boys with a well needed change and a good opportunity to bond and rekindle their love for one another

and lets hope they dont get too carried over along with the coutieireries getting hammered on wine

 

[Blue Pulse]

Aren’t we one of the best defences in the comp currently? We are doing that while Ollie is shutting down Dylan Moore and Bobby Hill

Problem is, we are too defensive, back and especially forward. We don't have an attacking plan when going forward. Best defensive side that doesn't score makes us pretty easy to beat. Too predictable when trying to score. Charlie, Kemp, Harry or bust. As a back man in an opposition team, why would I worry about Doc, Fog, Motlop, Cottrell or Williams scoring goals, might snag one every now and then.

Until we start spreading our forward line and using all these players when going forward, opposition teams will love us.

 

[Soapy V]

Really looking forward to this game.

As Bartel said, the trip to Adelaide should reinvigorate the boys with a well needed change and a good opportunity to bond and rekindle their love for one another

and lets hope they dont get too carried over along with the coutieireries getting hammered on wine

Don’t disagree but why should we need reinvigoration?

Every week there are good reasons we should do well but we never do. This is nearly 12 months of poor performances and we are something like 250 days without a win

I am really tired of the same crap yet expecting things to change. Until I actually see it happen I don’t trust this group anymore

 

[BluStreak]

I would like to know who McG has photos of? How can he still be in the team based on his performances?
I would say that of Fogarty as well. Lord dropped. WTF.

 

[Coops93]

This is an example of how the club ruins players development. In then out, out then sub, in then subbed off…just terrible. I actually feel sorry for the bloke. Meanwhile Doc and Gov and Williams are gifted games week in week out. There is a reason we have barely had any success for 25 years. We are an absolute rabble.

This line is why I've suggested a couple of times now that we shouldn't be surprised to see a few trade requests at the end of the year. It's the same thing Voss did back at the Lions resulting in purging kids every year, and ultimately the go home 5. We've been fortunate we're a big club in Melbourne so you don't normally get kids asking to leave, but I think we could be about to.

Watching vets time after time put up poor efforts get selected and backed to the hilt, while the kids and inexperienced guys get 1 game, maybe 1.5 qtrs as sub, and get immediately dropped. I hate the practice of picking kids for 1 game, let alone as the sub and then dropped. If you're only going to pick them for 1 game, don't pick them. At worst they need 2. But no, Voss will repeatedly give them 1 game, and drop them while senior heads get another go round.

Don't be surprised a few, Moir for example, request a trade if Voss is still around. It's what happened in Brisbane and he's doing the same here.

 

[Accidental genius]

Don’t disagree but why should we need reinvigoration?

Every week there are good reasons we should do well but we never do. This is nearly 12 months of poor performances and we are something like 250 days without a win

I am really tired of the same crap yet expecting things to change. Until I actually see it happen I don’t trust this group anymore

Yeah I dont know - and unfortunately it seems the club doesnt know whats going on either with the unexpected poor performances so far this year and also the tail end of last season.

They had all preseason to sought it out and they havent - its getting tiring for the fans.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

No doubt there will be plenty of complaining either way .

I disagree. Cannot imagine any complaining at all, no matter whether we win our next four. Or lose them all.

We are all just happy little vegemites, who are so proud of our great club.

 

[Accidental genius]

This line is why I've suggested a couple of times now that we shouldn't be surprised to see a few trade requests at the end of the year. It's the same thing Voss did back at the Lions resulting in purging kids every year, and ultimately the go home 5. We've been fortunate we're a big club in Melbourne so you don't normally get kids asking to leave, but I think we could be about to.

Watching vets time after time put up poor efforts get selected and backed to the hilt, while the kids and inexperienced guys get 1 game, maybe 1.5 qtrs as sub, and get immediately dropped. I hate the practice of picking kids for 1 game, let alone as the sub and then dropped. If you're only going to pick them for 1 game, don't pick them. At worst they need 2. But no, Voss will repeatedly give them 1 game, and drop them while senior heads get another go round.

Don't be surprised a few, Moir for example, request a trade if Voss is still around. It's what happened in Brisbane and he's doing the same here.

He is still crazy Voss - hasnt changed at all even after spending 10 years at port as an assistant.

He doesnt seem to have learnt anything knew which is telling and hence why we shouldnt be expecting any in game changes to how we play because he only knows one style - contest-contest contest because thats all he knew as a player and he was built for it but todays game is a little more than just contests.

 

[Tysthefox]

Whilst being staggered at Lord's omission, the only conclusion I can get to is that he is not following specific instructions or something of the like, otherwise it makes no sense.

McGovern and Docherty would want turn out something amazing this week, I really like the team this week aside from those two still being in the team. 4 weeks is a long enough for Match Committe to get an idea where both are at, which is nowhere near it....

 

[goreds]

Ollie is a defensive liability.

He’s a natural winger - why we’ve tried to turn him into a HBF is beyond me.

What we lose in transition we lose more in defensive frailty.

Hopefully he lines up back where he does his best work.

He may be a natural wingman, the issue is he’s not really good at it…