Preview 2025 Rd 5 Carlton vs West Coast Saturday 12th April 1.20PM AEST @ Adelaide Oval

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


4 changes!

 

[Arr0w]

phone a friend

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Not much else to do in Adelaide…

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Just wanna see a win first and foremost with no injuries and then see where that takes us.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

He may be a natural wingman, the issue is he’s not really good at it…

I think he’s OK on the wing - delivery into F50 is pretty good & he gets a lot of it.

We just can’t afford to keep turning it over in the back 6.

Gov

Id argue that outside of the Richmond game we’ve played the top 3 teams that run and carry. Therefore our data that says we’re number one at stopping this is on point. But our ability to offensively run and carry is hampered because we’re defending the opposition too much. Once we’ve played a few teams that are poor at this our data should improve in the offensive sense.

Yep - spend our tickets defending after turnovers

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Holy heck!!!

There’d be near on 2k here.

 

[Magruder]

Need to at least get back to even.

Not dammed either way, but when you've dropped 4 winnable games in 4 efforts, 1 win isn't going to make up for it.

I think that's the point. All 4 were winnable and we should have banked at least 2.
Even with the way we've played.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

100 points would…

No but it’s hooooow we won by 100!!!

Bloody disgraceful really.

Heaps of lucky goals, no game plan, lazy players & hopeless coaches.

Should have won by 475 .

Bloody disgraceful!

 

[CCurnow3picks]

They have these big steel balls in the mall = tourist attraction.

Enjoy!

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Superdry’s for under $10 & I’m in the shade.

Winning.

Ed: now if the DJ would tone down his bassless garbage….

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

Not much else to do in Adelaide…

Just flew back to Melbourne after going to the game last night.
What a fantastic ground to watch the footy at. The atmosphere was amazing.
Cracking night all the way through.
Had the great Tony Modra as the meet and greet person in the corporate section I was in. The champ was in fine form, worked the door like a pro, didn’t miss giving a single person his time.
Also didn’t miss sinking pint after pint, and didn’t let a server walk past him without filling up his big mitt with hors d’oeuvre’s all night.
Was an absolute star, but you wouldn’t expect otherwise.
The weather is sensational over there for the next 3 or 4 days. The place is rocking.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Gone from Katie to Black Eyed Peas….to the obligatory Robbie Williams.

I could nearly shoot the DJ from where I’m standing….

 

[Aphrodite]

Gone from Katie to Black Eyed Peas….to the obligatory Robbie Williams.

I could nearly shoot the DJ from where I’m standing….

Quoted just in case deleted

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Quoted just in case deleted

Bit of Kylie now.

Starting to feel it.

Boys are on the track, looking damn hot.

 

[Aphrodite]

Bit of Kylie now.

Starting to feel it.

Boys are on the track, looking damn hot.

Enjoy

 

[Stig O'Hara]

E. Hollands looks like he’s stripped 6kgs.

Whippet thin.

 

[gbatman]

100%

Go look at the better sides and how many "mids" they play.

Lions - Neale, McLuggage, Berry, Ashcroft, Dunkley all spend time HF or Wing

GCS - Touk Miller and Flanders and now playing a lot forward

Swans - Warner is now playing a lot forward to help rotations

Hawks - Day Newcombe Nash Worpel Ward McKenzie


All good sides do it because a good player can play nearly anywhere if the structure is right and the role is clear. But apparently we can't fit in more than 4 mids?

We could easily play Walsh on a Wing, Docherty at HB and even Cripps forward.

This has been one of my many criticisms of our coaching group for a long time. They are clueless on how to rotate the mids. put 5 or 6 onballers in the team and Voss and Co guaranteed to drop one the next week after failing to rotate them properly. And we wonder why we run of of legs and have a lot of injuries. We got the dud and surrounded him with the worst assistants in the game. I really hope we aren't surprised where we are.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

They have these big steel balls in the mall = tourist attraction.

Enjoy!

 

[Coops93]

Two major issues:

• Why cant our mids score goals?
• Why cant our small forwards score enough goals?

We have a midfield that haven't scored goals prior to this regime or in this regime. I think they're a group that aren't goal scorers. Look at Cerra & Hewetts records prior to us, not goal scorers at all. Walsh has never been one, junior or senior. Cripps had to work his arse off for years to get there, and it still isn't a natural part of his game. Part of my concern with Jagga pre-draft was that despite being highly rated a noted knock on him was scoreboard impact.

We just haven't recruited goal kicking mids. A further problem is we also haven't recruited or drafted goal kicking wingmen.

As for small fwds, most of them used to be mids and now are just pressure small forwards - sans Motlop - and aren't natural goal kickers. Even Lij Hollands, a natural and creative HFF, isn't really a goal kicker even at the Suns, he's a distributer.

I've been saying for years we lack natural goal kickers all over the park. We hardly have consistent scoreboard threats aside from Charlie and Harry.

 

[Arr0w]

This has been one of my many criticisms of our coaching group for a long time. They are clueless on how to rotate the mids. put 5 or 6 onballers in the team and Voss and Co guaranteed to drop one the next week after failing to rotate them properly. And we wonder why we run of of legs and have a lot of injuries. We got the dud and surrounded him with the worst assistants in the game. I really hope we aren't surprised where we are.

I'm shocked we haven't tried Weitering as a ruck rover

 

[Stig O'Hara]

I'm shocked we haven't tried Weitering as a ruck rover

If only he didn’t sprout 8 inches when he was 16.

In height, people.

 

[Recon_29]

On the tram down to sunny Glenelg for a spot of Baggerwatching.

Don’t see too much Navy Blue & by crikey there had better be an open bar….

More details as they come to hand.

What a ridiculously huge turnout. That is one of the biggest attended open trainings I've been to anywhere for us. Felt like a final.

 

[TheReal99prelim]

"but if they struggle"

I queried whether they had the 'block of games' in the first place before assessing whether they "struggle"

If they did have a block of 3 consecutive games, my apologies...if they didn't, then the "but if they struggle" caveat is null and void

Can someone help me out

Have Moir , Binns, Lord and L Campo had 3 consecutive games at AFL level (including sub)?

 

[Accidental genius]

We have a midfield that haven't scored goals prior to this regime or in this regime. I think they're a group that aren't goal scorers. Look at Cerra & Hewetts records prior to us, not goal scorers at all. Walsh has never been one, junior or senior. Cripps had to work his arse off for years to get there, and it still isn't a natural part of his game. Part of my concern with Jagga pre-draft was that despite being highly rated a noted knock on him was scoreboard impact.

We just haven't recruited goal kicking mids. A further problem is we also haven't recruited or drafted goal kicking wingmen.

As for small fwds, most of them used to be mids and now are just pressure small forwards - sans Motlop - and aren't natural goal kickers. Even Lij Hollands, a natural and creative HFF, isn't really a goal kicker even at the Suns, he's a distributer.

I've been saying for years we lack natural goal kickers all over the park. We hardly have consistent scoreboard threats aside from Charlie and Harry.

Appreciate the detail in your response…

But why do players need to be categorised as being “goal kickers” or not?

After all defenders sometimes kick goals too …they’re all players that can run bounce and kick.

I would have thought it’s more to do with how a team is set up and how far up mids run in and around f50 arc to get into positions of scoring.

There is no excuse for small forwards not kicking goals.

Our ones are sometimes finding opportunities but not converting…but with better positioning they should also have more opportunities to take shots.

 

[Arr0w]

I queried whether they had the 'block of games' in the first place before assessing whether they "struggle"

If they did have a block of 3 consecutive games, my apologies...if they didn't, then the "but if they struggle" caveat is null and void

Can someone help me out

Have Moir , Binns, Lord and L Campo had 3 consecutive games at AFL level (including sub)?

I should have been clearer

Coaches will look to playing youth in a block of games, if they have been performing at the lower levels, and or if they believe they are ready

Let's use Lucas as an example, AFL traits, solid preseason, plays first game but struggles in a number of critical moments

Gets selected the following week, struggles again

Experience coaches know its detrimental to continue playing them, so they are sent back

Another example is Ollie, plays the first game after being drafted, 11 in a row

Its a preference/theory, not a hard rule in terms of blocks of games

 

[2blue4u]

Bucky is spot on.