Autopsy 2025 AFL Round 6: A Dog day afternoon

[JG22]

Call me an empath but I’m hurting for steeley. The guy wants to do everything he can buts he’s body and ability just isn’t up to it. I’m sure his doubting whether he can lead again next year, Wilkes it must be?

 

[bakes10]

I don’t know what the answer is, I’m trying to blame it on us having too many softish athletic players who don’t wanna put their body on the line and get crunched (think Hill, Wilson, Henry, Collard, NWM), but then I think of all the players we do have that don’t mind getting crunched like Steele, Jones, Byrnes, Stocker and realise that it doesn’t make a difference because they all got shown up. What’s the answer ? I’m stumped. We got flogged.

 

[Sully111]

Was disappointed when I saw Steele was named captain again for this year. Having runs on the board only lasts so long.

I'd like to see him dropped for Boxshall.

I'm a big Wilson fan but I think he needs to go harder at the ball. He also needs to learn to lower his eyes.

Once again, we were just a dumb footy team. The difference between the two teams as far an footy smarts was huge.

We also didn't go hard enough. Some really disappointing efforts.

The next two weeks will tell a story.

 

[sauce_head]

Oh God, we aren't opening up the red heads can of worms again are we?

I feel like I should know what that means….

 

[luca77]

I haven't seen a side take the ball out the front of contests so easily since I last watched my local U12s side beating up on some poor club like Hampton Rovers or AJAX when I was living in Sandringham.

Enormous gulf between Bont coming back from injury and Steele a few weeks back from injury. They reckon Freijah is a young Bont. We made Davidson and Sanders look like Brownlow medallists tonight too.

Poor Nas felt like he had to do everything by himself. Wilkie was good, but dropped a couple that hurt.

Is it just me or does Windhager get a lot of passes touched/smothered? No need to answer, it's just something I feel like I've noticed for a while now.

Anyway, we played a tough game against GWS in the wet a year or 2 back and were hopeless for weeks afterwards. I said was worried about a repeat after the conditions last week, and 12 of the top 13 rated players on the ground being Dogs (and the one Saint being a defender!) suggests that as a team we weren't able to compete tonight.

Can't drop em all! But Boxhall and Trav should get picked next week based on this result and their performances today.

Arie is easy to drop on tonight's game, Hastie seems more useful at this point. Travaglia probably shouldn't have lost his spot to Henry, based on what I'd seen of Henry at Sandy. Boxhall for Steele would be a bit of a statement, or at least an acknowledgement that he's not at the level we need from him.

One more thing. We won 3 on the trot with Keeler there, and we talked about structure after he was dropped. Keeler might get smashed, but without him, we're rucking Owens which means we lose our 3 goal forward to the midfield. Also means we can't drag a tall defender away or occupy him, and there are matchup effects that flow down (height-wise). I'm not a Moose fan at all, but right now I don't care which one (of him and Keeler) we play, so long as we play one - and Moose did play well today, so this would be the week to pick him.

I don't know where we're at with either Boyd or Arie. It doesn't seem like the club wants to ruck Boyd WITH Marshall, but just have him as a backup. Arie gets picked, obviously for his kicking - but we don't seem to use him well enough to make up for his lack of defensive skills.

Anyway, I'm rambling now... that'll do.

 

[Yawkey way]

The bottom line for st Kilda is really fairly simple despite making some very good drafts choices in recent times we need mids. We won an irrelevant game that took us out of the the quality mid range yet again and we’ll continue to tread water until that need is addressed.

Can’t win in the nfl without at the very least a good QB and you can’t win in the afl without a good midfield. Supporters have been screaming it for years yet here we are, the club must act. If Rowell isn’t been offered a TDK like deal then the board should be asking why not ?. Worpel wouldn’t be the worst pick up but we need more than just one player.

Also we can’t wait for ming forever, he needs some support so this next draft must include a key forward.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Saw it coming a mile off, that game last week cooked us.

Dogs played us to a tee so fair shakes to Bevo. They marked us 1 on 1 and put up a tight zone around the ball to stifle our movement.
Our mids got sucked into the contest all night while the dogs kept their shape and waltzed it into space.
Same shit happened last year when we faced them off 3 games in 12 days or whatever it was.

Next week won't be pretty either.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

 

[jumperfan]

Well that was just shit. I’ve said it before but it’s amazing how we always look so much smaller than every team we play.
Reckon that was just about the worst game I’ve seen a Saint play under Ross from Brad Hill. I’ve seen more skilful slapstick comedies.

Also lol at the Essendon fan I saw on reddit trying to claim that loss was worse than the Bombers conceding 21 goals straight to the Dogs.

 

[The_Snake26]

• Henry was hardly killing it in the vfl. Hope he’s injured and that wasn’t him playing fit.
• Ari looks a bit lost.
• Maxy Heath finally pulled his finger out today, if he don’t get a game next week when we’re desperately crying out for some fwd height he never will.
• Darcy might need to do a Pou and spend a few weeks in the vfl.
• Lancey Boy I’m not sure, maybe just give him a bit of free license.
• Higgo has probably been our best overall player this year.

I’d throw Arie in the muscle room for 12 months. He has something but it’s obviously not key back, and it’s not a small. But he can find the pill and use it. We need to find a way to develop him and use his strengths and hide his weaknesses.
Darcy needs a spray. Soft tonight. So many pathetic efforts.
Collard I’ll give a pass. What hope did he have tonight?

Wilkie battled hard. Hammer was solid on Darcy, went to Khamis who had minimal impact. Needs to find a way to impact when his man is out of the contest.
Smalls like West and Richard shouldnt be marking high balls uncontested. That’s where he needs to kill it.
NAS kept running all night.
Garcia has a go and making good progress for a 2nd year player.
That’s about it.

What value is Hill? Soft as butter. He’s not giving us anything offensively. May as well as slapped Libba with a wet lettuce leaf. Would’ve had more impact.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I haven't seen a side take the ball out the front of contests so easily since I last watched my local U12s side beating up on some poor club like Hampton Rovers or AJAX when I was living in Sandringham.

Enormous gulf between Bont coming back from injury and Steele a few weeks back from injury. They reckon Freijah is a young Bont. We made Davidson and Sanders look like Brownlow medallists tonight too.

Poor Nas felt like he had to do everything by himself. Wilkie was good, but dropped a couple that hurt.

Is it just me or does Windhager get a lot of passes touched/smothered? No need to answer, it's just something I feel like I've noticed for a while now.

Anyway, we played a tough game against GWS in the wet a year or 2 back and were hopeless for weeks afterwards. I said was worried about a repeat after the conditions last week, and 12 of the top 13 rated players on the ground being Dogs (and the one Saint being a defender!) suggests that as a team we weren't able to compete tonight.

Can't drop em all! But Boxhall and Trav should get picked next week based on this result and their performances today.

Arie is easy to drop on tonight's game, Hastie seems more useful at this point. Travaglia probably shouldn't have lost his spot to Henry, based on what I'd seen of Henry at Sandy. Boxhall for Steele would be a bit of a statement, or at least an acknowledgement that he's not at the level we need from him.

One more thing. We won 3 on the trot with Keeler there, and we talked about structure after he was dropped. Keeler might get smashed, but without him, we're rucking Owens which means we lose our 3 goal forward to the midfield. Also means we can't drag a tall defender away or occupy him, and there are matchup effects that flow down (height-wise). I'm not a Moose fan at all, but right now I don't care which one (of him and Keeler) we play, so long as we play one - and Moose did play well today, so this would be the week to pick him.

I don't know where we're at with either Boyd or Arie. It doesn't seem like the club wants to ruck Boyd WITH Marshall, but just have him as a backup. Arie gets picked, obviously for his kicking - but we don't seem to use him well enough to make up for his lack of defensive skills.

Anyway, I'm rambling now... that'll do.

I thought Ari did enough for another run. That wasn't a very friendly game for him given the fact the defence got smashed all night. I agree, l don't understand why we'd pick him then not use his kicking to our advantage.

 

[triggering bro]

I thought Ari did enough for another run. That wasn't a very friendly game for him given the fact the defence got smashed all night. I agree, l don't understand why we'd pick him then not use his kicking to our advantage.

Every defender gets a pass having to defend 69 inside 50s with no support from our mids. 69 inside 50s must be near record numbers. I can’t remember seeing any number that high. Ever.

 

[LennyHayes77]

Petition to drop Jack Steele

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Jack Steele

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

. He needs a wake up call. How can a captain be so vanilla, so blasé?

 

[Black_Pirlo]

Considering the amount of ball that came their way, thought the defense did okay with Caminiti doing well at times. Dont think Schoenmaker is going to make it as a defender. Looks too slow of mind and pace and was a liability in defending. Caminiti makes mistakes, but you can see the building blocks are there.

Again thought the forwards did okay given how little quality ball came in. Cooper Sharman is a natural footballer. Michito tried. Collard again did some good defensive things.

The midfield were witches hats. Its hard to know with our midfield how much of it is down to running with a ruckman that is getting slaughtered. English was putting the ball to his players advantage almost everytime. If your ruckman is dominant and you know where he is going to put it, it does make things a lot easier. But it did feel like their players got first touch each time, with a St Kilda player hanging off that player. Another would rush in to lock it in, they would get hands away and off they went, rinse repeat. Garcia and Windhager classics for this, but they might be under instruction to do exactly this. Which begs the question, what was Steele and co doing. Our pressure was way down as well. If our pressure is not white hot, teams with better midfields get the better of us. Darcy Wilson looked scared for contact at times and his skills under pressure were not good. Mason Wood

32

Mason Wood

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.3

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

2.7

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

was anonymous tonight. Max Hall was anonymous. Brad Hill at full tilt got run down by Libratore which may be indicative that father time is catching up.

Finally, I thought Ross also lowered his colours. He got the selections wrong tonight and was also out coached on the day. Particularly during their run on.

 

[botts]

I’m convinced something was up with us. We just couldn’t run or move. I’m leaning towards a voodoo curse

 

[Diehard Saint]

Marshall didn’t train all week. Had his foot stood on against GWS. Obviously in hindsight should not of played. Thought Hammer busted his guts and apart from one horrid kick was good

When will we learn?
Thats what Boyd’s for. Emergency.
He couldn’t have been any worse than Marshall tonight.

Roma injured. Steele most likely unfit. Henry - well what was with that?

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Every defender gets a pass having to defend 69 inside 50s with no support from our mids. 69 inside 50s must be near record numbers. I can’t remember seeing any number that high. Ever.

69, dinner for two one

 

[TheJackal]

There were some horrendous calls against him late. Not at all the reason we lost, but the umpiring was diabolical as it has been across the league all season.

Jones got another clothesline unpaid free and gave away two for players butting their heads into his chest.

Both fair calls, I was on the other side of the stadium from where it was so assumed they were there, just found it comical to see that bald noggin standing the mark time and time again. Definitely not blaming Jones for today, today was a team effort of being rubbish.

Tonight was one of those comical nights, was so frustrating you just had to laugh.

Our defenders and wingers just ran themselves into trouble time and time again. We were playing to our game plan but we were just out run and Dogs spread so well. We didnt work hard enough and our defenders lacked running support, both on the overlap and up the field, clearly exhausted from the week before. How we finished the match with a kicking efficiency of 70.8% is beyond me, felt like it should've been below 50%.

I think Bevo had done his homework on us and smashed us in that department.

I really hope we see Tobie, Hastie, Boxshall and probably Heath come in and play full games next week. Dont need to say much about the players who had shockers, we all know who they were.

3-3 is where I hoped we'd be after 6 rounds (with our injuries). The 3 losses have really hit us all over the park, hopefully we can play more than 8 good minutes of footy next week.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Call me an empath but I’m hurting for steeley. The guy wants to do everything he can buts he’s body and ability just isn’t up to it. I’m sure his doubting whether he can lead again next year, Wilkes it must be?

He's done now.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

The Dogs also played in similar heat, 1 hour equivalent after us. Only 1 day difference. That’s not an excuse.

 

[Plugger35]

Dog Day Afternoon, Al Pacino's finest hour.

We need to get Al Pacino back to coach us.

 

[TiAn_]

Wishing Darcy well in his scans and any eventual rehab.

Well what to expect from this really? Started well enough but when it came time to actually play the game we just didn't check in and go with.

Be respectful.

Appreciate the sentiment.

 

[AirWinmar]

That was so bad. I'll give all the forwards (Excluding Henry) a pass as it didn't get down there and Higgins and Owens made the best of limited opportunities.

I have no idea why our coaching panel think we can play injured players and it will end well. We were basically playing a man down with Henry. Marshall and Steele must be carrying something- Steele bad and Marshall diabolical. Got schooled and even when he won hit outs, put it straight down the throat of Dogs mids.

Our handballing in close was terrible- coughed it up so many times.

That was as bad a midfield performance we've put up for some time

 

[mighty_sainters]

One week I think we’re on our way to a genuine top 8 team.

The next I wonder if I have rose coloured glasses on because half our team is mud.

Which one honestly is it?

 

[borderbarry]

Height/ We lack it all over the ground. wE need to play Moose and Keeler, and anyone else that can help with height.