List Mgmt. 2025 List Management

[serial_thrilla]

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

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No. Our current picks after the 1st would be 28, 40 and 46. 877 points. Note that there's a 10% discount on bids from selection 1 to 18 followed by an 84-point deduction (being 10% of selection 18) for all bids from selection 19 to 36.

With the discount, the highest bid our picks after the first can match alone would be 15. If we pull the finger out at some point this season, might be closer to the 700 point range.

Wow, ok, they really did completely wipe the points. Now im very interested to see what impact it has this year.

Points seems to be harder to come by and EVERYONE wants points with the current list of kids linked to clubs. Going to be extremely interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[Alfonz]

Our second round pick can be downgraded for 2 thirds and gaining extra points.

Also we maybe to get the Demons third round.

That’s most likely enough for Whan, Hart, and another NGA.

This website has the indicative order and updated pick values:

AFL Draft Order 2025

View the latest up-to-date 2025 AFL Draft Order. Pick swaps and trades from the AFL Trade Period are included.

www.zerohanger.com

Someone else has already mentioned that under the new system, we have 877 points from our 2nd and 2 x 3rds (28 + 40 + 46). Which is cover for 975 points (pick 15). You mentioned 1700 in another post and then said "yes" when asked if it was the updated values. We should be right for Whan based on current rankings, but if he rises into the top 10-15 then we may have a problem.

Pick 28 by itself only covers a bid at pick 26. If it gets to 28 and no bids on Whan, then 40+46 will cover a bid at pick 32. We could consider trading 28 into the 2026 draft for Robinson points (and risk a slight deficit from a 29-31 Whan bid, or maybe we acquire an extra pick in the 40's).

I'm not even thinking about our other 2025 NGA's, that could be an additional issue and we really need them to go late or unbid.

Melbourne don't have a 2025 3rd that we can use. Their early 3rd is with Adelaide, and they have another one from Brisbane which is essentially worthless for points.

If Robinson is top 5 in 2026, then we need something like 29 + 31 + 33 + 35. We need to find 3 of these from somewhere.

Remember that Brisband and GC were rorting a different system and were also trading out 1sts for a bunch of points. We would be trading out 1sts for Pickett.

Under some reasonable assumptions of ladder positions and draft rankings and salary, it will be extremely hard to pull off Pickett + Whan + Robinson without trading out players with some currency. Switta has been mentioned by many for good reason.

 

[Docker82]

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No. Our current picks after the 1st would be 28, 40 and 46. 877 points. Note that there's a 10% discount on bids from selection 1 to 18 followed by an 84-point deduction (being 10% of selection 18) for all bids from selection 19 to 36.

With the discount, the highest bid our picks after the first can match alone would be 15. If we pull the finger out at some point this season, might be closer to the 700 point range.

This is nearly impossible to predict but it's worth remembering that points will apply to whatever picks we have at the time the bid is made.

There's supposed to be a lot of pretty highly rated academy/father son prospects and every time multiple picks before picks 40 to 46 are used they'll come in one or two spots. Fear pick 28 probably ends up going the other way though unfortunately.

 

[eastfreo75]

This website has the indicative order and updated pick values:

AFL Draft Order 2025

View the latest up-to-date 2025 AFL Draft Order. Pick swaps and trades from the AFL Trade Period are included.

www.zerohanger.com

Someone else has already mentioned that under the new system, we have 877 points from our 2nd and 2 x 3rds (28 + 40 + 46). Which is cover for 975 points (pick 15). You mentioned 1700 in another post and then said "yes" when asked if it was the updated values. We should be right for Whan based on current rankings, but if he rises into the top 10-15 then we may have a problem.

Pick 28 by itself only covers a bid at pick 26. If it gets to 28 and no bids on Whan, then 40+46 will cover a bid at pick 32. We could consider trading 28 into the 2026 draft for Robinson points (and risk a slight deficit from a 29-31 Whan bid, or maybe we acquire an extra pick in the 40's).

I'm not even thinking about our other 2025 NGA's, that could be an additional issue and we really need them to go late or unbid.

Melbourne don't have a 2025 3rd that we can use. Their early 3rd is with Adelaide, and they have another one from Brisbane which is essentially worthless for points.

If Robinson is top 5 in 2026, then we need something like 29 + 31 + 33 + 35. We need to find 3 of these from somewhere.

Remember that Brisband and GC were rorting a different system and were also trading out 1sts for a bunch of points. We would be trading out 1sts for Pickett.

Under some reasonable assumptions of ladder positions and draft rankings and salary, it will be extremely hard to pull off Pickett + Whan + Robinson without trading out players with some currency. Switta has been mentioned by many for good reason.

Assumed that draftguru.com got it right.

 

[pK75]

This website has the indicative order and updated pick values:

AFL Draft Order 2025

View the latest up-to-date 2025 AFL Draft Order. Pick swaps and trades from the AFL Trade Period are included.

www.zerohanger.com

Someone else has already mentioned that under the new system, we have 877 points from our 2nd and 2 x 3rds (28 + 40 + 46). Which is cover for 975 points (pick 15). You mentioned 1700 in another post and then said "yes" when asked if it was the updated values. We should be right for Whan based on current rankings, but if he rises into the top 10-15 then we may have a problem.

Pick 28 by itself only covers a bid at pick 26. If it gets to 28 and no bids on Whan, then 40+46 will cover a bid at pick 32. We could consider trading 28 into the 2026 draft for Robinson points (and risk a slight deficit from a 29-31 Whan bid, or maybe we acquire an extra pick in the 40's).

I'm not even thinking about our other 2025 NGA's, that could be an additional issue and we really need them to go late or unbid.

Melbourne don't have a 2025 3rd that we can use. Their early 3rd is with Adelaide, and they have another one from Brisbane which is essentially worthless for points.

If Robinson is top 5 in 2026, then we need something like 29 + 31 + 33 + 35. We need to find 3 of these from somewhere.

Remember that Brisband and GC were rorting a different system and were also trading out 1sts for a bunch of points. We would be trading out 1sts for Pickett.

Under some reasonable assumptions of ladder positions and draft rankings and salary, it will be extremely hard to pull off Pickett + Whan + Robinson without trading out players with some currency. Switta has been mentioned by many for good reason.

Melbourne not having their 3rd this year makes it hard, would need to try and get their second somehow, or we trade out other players to get the points we need.

 

[wild side]

WA Under-18 Squad​

Charlie Banfield, Cody Curtin, Oscar Willis, Heath Mellody, Joseph Hopkyns, George Gale, Jay Hill, Benji van Rooyen, Charlie Watson (Claremont), Tom Phillips

21

Tom Phillips

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.4

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

D

15.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

, Luke Carrello, Cooper Ramsay (East Fremantle), Luke Hallett, Garrison Kenh, Seb Royle (East Perth), Matthew Becker, Basil Hart, Jax Williams, Mitchell Stirling, Will York, Bol Makuach (Peel Thunder), Koby Evans, Dale Sutherland (Perth), Fred Rodriguez, Toby Whan, Max Thomas, Ryda Luke (South Fremantle), Wes Walley, Hudson Walker (Subiaco), Blake Kelly, Tylah Williams (Swan Districts), Sam Swadling, Harvey Spawton-Guy, Jacob Farrow (West Perth


No Robinson in there! Rodriguez is the one, he'll go Top 10 I reckon

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

WA Under-18 Squad​

Charlie Banfield, Cody Curtin, Oscar Willis, Heath Mellody, Joseph Hopkyns, George Gale, Jay Hill, Benji van Rooyen, Charlie Watson (Claremont), Tom Phillips, Luke Carrello, Cooper Ramsay (East Fremantle), Luke Hallett, Garrison Kenh, Seb Royle (East Perth), Matthew Becker, Basil Hart, Jax Williams, Mitchell Stirling, Will York, Bol Makuach (Peel Thunder), Koby Evans, Dale Sutherland (Perth), Fred Rodriguez, Toby Whan, Max Thomas, Ryda Luke (South Fremantle), Wes Walley, Hudson Walker (Subiaco), Blake Kelly, Tylah Williams (Swan Districts), Sam Swadling, Harvey Spawton-Guy, Jacob Farrow (West Perth


No Robinson in there! Rodriguez is the one, he'll go Top 10 I reckon

Are there any underagers? They do prioritise over-agers and the current draft crop more than they used to

 

[eastfreo75]

WA Under-18 Squad​

Charlie Banfield, Cody Curtin, Oscar Willis, Heath Mellody, Joseph Hopkyns, George Gale, Jay Hill, Benji van Rooyen, Charlie Watson (Claremont), Tom Phillips, Luke Carrello, Cooper Ramsay (East Fremantle), Luke Hallett, Garrison Kenh, Seb Royle (East Perth), Matthew Becker, Basil Hart, Jax Williams, Mitchell Stirling, Will York, Bol Makuach (Peel Thunder), Koby Evans, Dale Sutherland (Perth), Fred Rodriguez, Toby Whan, Max Thomas, Ryda Luke (South Fremantle), Wes Walley, Hudson Walker (Subiaco), Blake Kelly, Tylah Williams (Swan Districts), Sam Swadling, Harvey Spawton-Guy, Jacob Farrow (West Perth


No Robinson in there! Rodriguez is the one, he'll go Top 10 I reckon

A lot of water under the bridge but Robinson non selection says not a first round pick.

 

[Alfonz]

A lot of water under the bridge but Robinson non selection says not a first round pick.

Not really. He suffered a head knock in the pre-season and missed the start of the season. He has been eased back and has only played 1 colts game (24 and 2 goals). They aren't going to rush him into the team now with trial games coming up in May.

He has been named as a train-on with the squad, so he will be amongst it. Maybe he gets added to the main squad later (e.g. someone gets injured) for the champs in June.

 

[wakojako]

Not really. He suffered a head knock in the pre-season and missed the start of the season. He has been eased back and has only played 1 colts game (24 and 2 goals). They aren't going to rush him into the team now with trial games coming up in May.

He has been named as a train-on with the squad, so he will be amongst it. Maybe he gets added to the main squad later (e.g. someone gets injured) for the champs in June.

People need to chill out. His draft year is next year. He's basically playing one year ahead of his cohort.

 

[wild side]

A lot can happen in 1 year. Kids jump, kids go out etc
Rodriguez and Kelly are the two most compelling selections in that list, both played mids in the Under 18's last year, and acquitted themselves very well

 

[theGav56]

Yeah and you got two experienced and damaging players that you won't get from the draft. No brainer. Imagine if they weren't in our team!

Yeah for sure.

We have positional needs they fill, but we also have a need for A grade talent, which they also bring.

 

[Silencer83]

Didn't Western dominate under age and then fell right back in his draft year as an example?

 

[Paracleet]

I am still not sold on Robinson as a top pick because of his kicking, but there is a bit of time I guess and good to see him get some goals. Again, tackling numbers is up there in KPIs for him and just want to see him have intensity all game. Compared to Erasmus at the same point, I think I would have Erasmus higher - he was kicking more goals at the same point in his underage year and just running harder.

Nothing is assured in drafting, but Rodriguez makes a lot of sense for the Eagles. He is clearly about the rest in terms of professionalism, and he has a good all-round game that suits a variety of roles.

Erasmus only kicked 4 goals in his underage year and they were all in the grand final. He had 0 at the same point in his career. Surely you don't mean PSA goals who cares how many of those he kicked.

 

[Bastyy]

A lot of water under the bridge but Robinson non selection says not a first round pick.

Robinson is part of the squad as a train-on, shouldn't have any issue making the final squad tbh

 

[maccamk]

We are going to be trading out some assets at the end of this year. Switta, Ras and Sturt for example. Depending on the season plays out Hodor could be added to that list.

We shouldnt be scared to trade out players if we are bringing players like Jackson, Bolton and Kozzie in.

 

[Dayts]

JammO!!

 

[Taylor]

Warner is old news, everyone is Pickett now

 

[shiny_on_top]

Pretty good result really taking him to Free Agency. Much rather wait two years and get him for free then pay what it'd take to get him this year.

 

[Eski3]

This is way worse for West Coast than it is for us. Let's get Kozzie in and restructure Jackson so that we are all in on Warner in 2 years

 

[mike91]

Good result all around. West Coast don't get him, Harley more likely to leave, we don't blow insane picks on him and we can focus on solely getting Kossie.

If we still want him, make him an offer and Sydney could be getting average pick(s) because of free agency. Could bite them in the ass

 

[what a game]

Robinson was flown back from Melbourne last week to play colts so he would qualify for u18 selection. No doubt he makes the final squad

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

This is way worse for West Coast than it is for us. Let's get Kozzie in and restructure Jackson so that we are all in on Warner in 2 years

In the end, its the best result for everyone.

• Sydney get the chance to get him.to stay long term
• DaChad gets money and easy ability to leave if he wants to
• WC don't send their already horrendous rebuild further down the toilet
• Freo can see where it all lies and reasses / line things up in a few years.

 

[ubiquitous226]

This is way worse for West Coast than it is for us. Let's get Kozzie in and restructure Jackson so that we are all in on Warner in 2 years

I don't think it's a bad result for anyone, West Coast included.
They can't afford to be giving up high picks right now, so this leaves it open to him joining them in a couple of years when they'll still have heaps of salary space.

Equally things might change for us with player movement, or they might not.

 

[Silencer83]

I think the fact he only signed for 2 years, when key players are being locked in for 6+ minimum at the moment, says the most about where his head is at.