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ClarkeM said:
Been curious on this myself. My understanding (and it comes from another sport but seems to be commonplace among all other sports I've seen it in too is that the day on which the concussion is sustained is considered "Day 0". It is referenced in the community guidelines as such, but what the AFL has within their own walls, who would bloody know!
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Scott post-match last night was under the impression Miers could play this week if he passed protocols, which is about the only information there is to work with as the club/league haven't said anything official about his eligibility this weekend.
 
Strange Cat said:
You just have to shake your head ..2 free kicks in the second half that’s it

And a Carlton mate said we are thugs ..ok just ****ing laughable
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Still recall game v Blues at Princess Park
Back when Blight was Cats coach mid 1980's
Cats raced away to 10 goal lead by 1/2 time
Cats had ZERO frees in 2nd Half... Blues won
Blight in post game presser said: -
36 blokes hard at it for an hour, non stop
On a wet day, and they didn't infringe once?
 
fpm84 said:
Scott post-match last night was under the impression Miers could play this week if he passed protocols, which is about the only information there is to work with as the club/league haven't said anything official about his eligibility this weekend.
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(currently 6 minutes into it myself to hear what he said!)

Very interesting situation, surely a reporter will clear it up soon. Regardless of ongoing monitoring, there's a fine line of eligible vs not-eligible.
 

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ClarkeM said:
Been curious on this myself. My understanding (and it comes from another sport but seems to be commonplace among all other sports I've seen it in too is that the day on which the concussion is sustained is considered "Day 0". It is referenced in the community guidelines as such, but what the AFL has within their own walls, who would bloody know!
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In AFL concussion protocols, the 12-day period is a minimum timeframe from the date of the concussion for a player to return to play. This period begins on the day the concussion is sustained and counts for 12 consecutive days. The player must also successfully progress through all steps of the 11-step return-to-play program and receive medical clearance before returning to play.
I reckon he's right to play on that time frame.
 
you pick one said:
In AFL concussion protocols, the 12-day period is a minimum timeframe from the date of the concussion for a player to return to play. This period begins on the day the concussion is sustained and counts for 12 consecutive days. The player must also successfully progress through all steps of the 11-step return-to-play program and receive medical clearance before returning to play.
I reckon he's right to play on that time frame.
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Where is this info from and is possible to find the '11 step return to play program'? Quite interested as I haven't read about it before.
 
Heckler said:
Still recall game v Blues at Princess Park
Back when Blight was Cats coach mid 1980's
Cats raced away to 10 goal lead by 1/2 time
Cats had ZERO frees in 2nd Half... Blues won
Blight in post game presser said: -
36 blokes hard at it for an hour, non stop
On a wet day, and they didn't infringe once?
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Yes I was in Hervey Bay looking at land with the family and heard a halftime score we must have been the TV game so raced back to see the second half at the motel. :madv1:
 
someday-somehow said:
They used to say the same about Hawkins
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Hawkins showed ridiculous natural ability (leaping and brute strength) from his first year and then in the VFL.
Neale possess very little of that ability.
He's a terrific athlete and absolutely huge so that goes in his favor.

I actually don't mind it when he clunks a mark and then tells teammates to settle as he walks back to take the kick. He has confidence in himself but just at the minute, isn't able to kick the goals in those situations.
 
In following the elite game guidelines, the earliest that a player can return to play after a concussion is on the 12th day after the day on which the concussion was sustained and provided that the player has safely progressed through each phase of the 11-step return-to-play program.
www.afl.com.au

AFL releases updated concussion guidelines and strategic plan

The Australian Football League has released its updated guidelines for the elite game and strategic plan for sport-related concussion in Australian football.
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au

Interesting that it's actually a 11 day protocol and the community guidelines are a 21 day protocol, not 12 and 21. There you go!
 
fpm84 said:
Where is this info from and is possible to find the '11 step return to play program'? Quite interested as I haven't read about it before.
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I heard someone explaining Miers availability. I think the reason he's available is that the "day" is the technicality.

The Hawthorn game started at 3.20pm on a Monday - add 12 days "post" the incident and it takes you to 3.20pm Saturday. Our game time is 7.30pm. It's a technicality but it's the way it's calculated under the protocols I believe. If the Pies game started at 2pm on Saturday he'd sit out another game.
 
bombersboy said:
I would be surprised if we bought both Kolo and Henry back this week. I think both are likely to be underdone and better served by a week in the VFL unless we bring Henry back to replace his brother or Neale down forward.

Knevitt may need a longer rest. His foot problem is Planter Fasciitis which will be hindering his ability to run freely.
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We've got the VFL bye this week - that may not impact Henry as much as I'm not sure he was due back this week

But it will impact Kolodjadhnij as he either plays AFL this week or we won't see him in the senior side until round 10, May 17 versus Port
 
bombersboy said:
I would be surprised if we bought both Kolo and Henry back this week. I think both are likely to be underdone and better served by a week in the VFL unless we bring Henry back to replace his brother or Neale down forward.

Knevitt may need a longer rest. His foot problem is Planter Fasciitis which will be hindering his ability to run freely.
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I thought that Knevitt had turned the corner at the end of 2024. He started dominating at VFL level. He was talked up as a regular AFl player for 2025. It hasn't happened. OHenry's career is at the crossroads. He might only end up as a good VFL player. He doesn't have the tank or the desire needed for AFL. This is why Mannagh has been so impressive. He has all the attributes, desire, gut running, attack on the ball that others will never have.
 

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Is Ralph sure the AFL average is 20 days for a concussion? Three games seems excessive.

As for the protocols don't the players have baseline testing pre season then need to match those results throughout recovery?
 
Jumping Jack said:
I heard someone explaining Miers availability. I think the reason he's available is that the "day" is the technicality.

The Hawthorn game started at 3.20pm on a Monday - add 12 days "post" the incident and it takes you to 3.20pm Saturday. Our game time is 7.30pm. It's a technicality but it's the way it's calculated under the protocols I believe. If the Pies game started at 2pm on Saturday he'd sit out another game.
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Reading the AFL explanation they seem only concerned with days not hours.
 
Commando said:
Is Ralph sure the AFL average is 20 days for a concussion? Three games seems excessive.

As for the protocols don't the players have baseline testing pre season then need to match those results throughout recovery?
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Depending on a team's schedule, 20 games would likely equate to only 2 games missed

Looking at Miers in this instance, if we count the Tuesday as being day 1, then day 20 would fall in May 11 which is the date of our match against Port

It's likely averaging out at 20 days based around when the third game from when the concussion occurred is when the player returns - so the club's are almost writing off a fortnight and then targeting the third weekend
 
Commando said:
Is Ralph sure the AFL average is 20 days for a concussion? Three games seems excessive.

As for the protocols don't the players have baseline testing pre season then need to match those results throughout recovery?
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Probably as some would struggle to count how many fingers you are holding up on their best day.
 

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My Tilly said:
Neale concerns me as a forward. I hope he isn't a standard lead-out-mark forward because we desperately need another tall who is reactive and alert to plays unfolding like we saw in that particular passage of play.

Perhaps it will come in time but I guess this is the difference between elite forwards and standard forwards.
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reactive and alert, like last week when he reacted to the eye movement of Weddle to spoil and get us the game winning goal?
Mannagh kicked the goal but even when reviewing it he talked about the two efforts Neale made in the one play which were crucial. I'm not saying he had didn't have a poor game but don't pigeonhole him after that one showing
 

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