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[serial_thrilla]

 

[Taylor]

Next second, Max Gawn

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Max Gawn

Age

34

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

asks for a trade to Pies with Petracca.

 

[Kapow!!!]

It’s not that journos make stuff up (although some get as close as you can get to doing that). It’s more that once someone has “reported” something, it becomes available for endless reproduction via the “reportedly” adjective. Suddenly, there’s half a dozen journos reporting the same thing, and voila — “smoke”.

Yes, there’s the facebook thing, but what’s the justification for treating current reports as anything but re-reporting of old reports of the fact someone reported something? Max Gawn reminded everyone about the old reports.

Agreed. There's smoke and there's smoke machine smoke. This seems far more like the AFL journalistic staple: Re-hashing onr tenuous source, then a few weeks later quoting another journalist whose source was, well, your original story.

There doesn't seem to be any new information other than Gawn rehashing the exact same thing as earlier in the year. I'm prone to pessimism too but take a step back and just see there's not really any new information or "smoke", just the first week in a while that Melbourne lost and need a good news story.

But I do agree that 1) I hate dealing with Melbourne - they're the ultimate bad faith negotiators and 2) If Jackson goes this year then it's pretty much the last straw - we'd be guaranteed never to get anywhere as a club with everything on top of letting him go at this point.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

It’s not that journos make stuff up (although some get as close as you can get to doing that). It’s more that once someone has “reported” something, it becomes available for endless reproduction via the “reportedly” adjective. Suddenly, there’s half a dozen journos reporting the same thing, and voila — “smoke”.

Yes, there’s the facebook thing, but what’s the justification for treating current reports as anything but re-reporting of old reports of the fact someone reported something? Max Gawn reminded everyone about the old reports.

Like I said, more Ellis on HBG then Gawn trolling with that one for mine.

I agree we are still talking about effectively the same story with no change but that's how it's going to be until trade period with a contracted player. There is absolutely something there, just dont know how much.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

But I do agree that 1) I hate dealing with Melbourne - they're the ultimate bad faith negotiators and 2) If Jackson goes this year then it's pretty much the last straw - we'd be guaranteed never to get anywhere as a club with everything on top of letting him go at this point.

Yeah, it's less about losing Jackson, more about what it says about this club where there is ANOTHER player we have traded in who's tried to leave within like 4 years, yet alone letting a WA talent go like Jackson who has 4 years on a contract. The optics and everything about it would be revolting

 

[Quay Club]

 

[freo_leo29]

For mine personally, Gawns trolling is meaningless but Ellis is also saying Melbourne people are confident and there is the whole Facebook thing which is pretty important info. I also don't think journos strictly make things up as many people like to think (especially someone like Cleary).

There is clearly smoke there and to think otherwise is just sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming.

Where i make the distinction is its obviously a very long way from a foregone conclusion he actually is pushing to leave and even if he did, I expect Freo to say no for a few years anyway. Finally, like wakojako said, there won't be anyone at Melbourne he even knows by the time he's actually out of contract.

Ellis is not a newsbreaker

He just makes things up for stories sometimes

Case in point, he went with Barlow calling Hugo Garcia after being subbed last week as he was also subbed early by Ross.

Barlow said it was completely made up today on F&F

 

[theGav56]

Unpopular take I know but I don’t think Jackson is big enough to be a full time first ruck. Not for me

I'd prefer a rolling ruck structure anyway. Develop Riddle and use him with Jackson and Voss kind of things.

Keep things flexible and mobile.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Source?
I don't think they brought that in

It was on afl.com.au website I cant find it but basically it said clubs cant trae players but can move up in the draft. We'll find out soon enough.

 

[Superkoops]

I'd prefer a rolling ruck structure anyway. Develop Riddle and use him with Jackson and Voss kind of things.

Keep things flexible and mobile.

Riddle is a few years away.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

I'd prefer a rolling ruck structure anyway. Develop Riddle and use him with Jackson and Voss kind of things.

Keep things flexible and mobile.

Riddle's miles off afl level. He gets aroud 4 possessions a game. He's only on a 1 year deal and I theink he could be delisted at the end of the year.

 

[Taylor]

“It won't be coming in”: AFL knocks back mid-season trade period for 2025

“I think they're a bit cooler than they were this time last year.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[freo_leo29]

It was on afl.com.au website I cant find it but basically it said clubs cant trae players but can move up in the draft. We'll find out soon enough.

Think the idea was floated but never got off the ground

 

[swanny1234]

I think we’ve got to trade Darcy to hang onto Jackson. The main way you hang onto Jackson is by backing him in as the number 1 guy, and extending that contract..
That means you have to get rid of Darcy… either way a call needs to be made.

 

[Taylor]

Play him as the mid and extend him anyway

 

[s_wd6]

I think we’ve got to trade Darcy to hang onto Jackson. The main way you hang onto Jackson is by backing him in as the number 1 guy, and extending that contract..
That means you have to get rid of Darcy… either way a call needs to be made.

The main way you hold onto Jackson is by having him contracted until 2029

 

[Mogumber]

I'm resolving myself to accept that we'll never win one. Hard enough to get there, let alone win one.
Collingwood who we pushed hard last Thursday, now have 14 games left, top of the ladder, and only leave Vic twice.
We will have to travel 6 times, not too bad. But the Pies are top of the ladder, we are middling again at 11th.
We won't win enough to get in to finals now.
So we are basically playing for Pride, and that's gone well over the last 30 years.
We're doomed

 

[malpaso]

I think we’ve got to trade Darcy to hang onto Jackson. The main way you hang onto Jackson is by backing him in as the number 1 guy, and extending that contract..
That means you have to get rid of Darcy… either way a call needs to be made.

Yes, I believe so. That would mean getting Darcy fit though and hope he gets to his best this season, trade him to Geelong or GWS.

 

[Purple dynamite]

I wouldn't want to deal with Geelong at the trade table.

 

[Cobbler]

This Jackson chat is a massive misunderstanding. I was handed the recent transcript between the clubs.

Freo - Kosi Pickett? Fair bit of chat he wishes to come back to WA.

Melbourne - You’re hearing correctly. Look, we won’t let him go unless a decent deal can be facilitated.

Freo - We have a ruckman, from Melbourne actually, we’d look into that as part player swap.

Melbourne - That may actually work.

Freo - ok… well let’s just sit on this until the end of the season.

Melbourne - deal.

After hanging up the phone…

Melbourne - Jackson wants to come back to Melbourne! Suckers!!

Freo - We have a suitor for Darcy! Suckers!!

 

[lukedean16]

I keep reading this stuff about a Facebook post but I’m not really sure what that’s about? Could someone please elaborate on what happened there?

 

[go_the_dockers]

I keep reading this stuff about a Facebook post but I’m not really sure what that’s about? Could someone please elaborate on what happened there?

Best to leave it alone, but basically his brother, gf, family members posted on Facebook in a public spot.

Mostly talking about his family

 

[dominguez]

There's a number of factors at play with Jackson -

1 The GF from Victoria

2 Freo looking to do a deal for Kossie

3 Jacko's link to the Demons

4 Other players signing longer deals on more money than Jackson

5 The tandem rucks so far being underwhelming.

Throw all that in the pot band the speculation makes sense. Only Jackson and his inner sanctum would know if there's truth to the rumour of if he's chasing more dollars and a longer deal.

 

[dominguez]

I wouldn't want to deal with Geelong at the trade table.

It wouldn't matter who we deal with, if we trade Darcy now his trade value is at it's lowest and we'd have to pay some of his salary.

 

[dominguez]

I think we’ve got to trade Darcy to hang onto Jackson. The main way you hang onto Jackson is by backing him in as the number 1 guy, and extending that contract..
That means you have to get rid of Darcy… either way a call needs to be made.

It's possible (but unlikely) that all of the following happen in the future -

Darcy gets traded for pick 50 and gets fit and finds his best form at his new club and we have egg on our face.

Lloyd Meek gets picked in the All Australian team.

Max Knobel becomes a regular at the Suns.

Jackson's GF does what Brad Hill's partner and others have done and twists his arm to go back to Victoria.

Freo go from having too many ruck options to none. Lets hope we get this sliding doors moment right.

 

[Flagmantle Pod]

Anyone else here seen The West’s report on Jackson?