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Bombers 2000 vs Geelong 2007

Who wins

  • Dons

    Votes: 23 47.9%

  • Cats

    Votes: 25 52.1%
  • Total voters
    48

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West Coast if fully healthy in 07 could have challenged Geelong. No Judd, Kerr and Cousins. 3 of the best midfielders of all time.
 

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Bunk Moreland said:
Top $ for Barnes… who was delisted by Geelong and Essendon took as ruck cover with a fourth round pick in the national draft.
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I know the public story.
It's like when I tell my Mrs "oh yeah good night, bumped into some friends"


PhatBoy said:
Well they had two of them when we beat them by seven goals in round but yeah. Keep going.
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LOL West Coast were never beating Geelong in 2007. Never. Only great teams like Norf were able to get the better of Geelong in 2007.
 
It’s a tough question. Most will say Geelong because more people saw them and remember them better, being more recent. That’s always the way.

In a game, a lot would actually depend how the game is played imo. Essendon lost to one team that season and the template was clear - shut the game down defensively and play accountably and you could beat them. No other team tried it.

If Geelong did that then they’d be a big chance of winning because they had a super midfield and defence.

If it turned into a shootout then forget it, Essendon would blow them off the park just as they did every opponent. Too much firepower, averaged 131 ppg that season.

Geelong weren’t as dominant, there is no doubt about that. They lost four games during the year and even came within a bee’s dick of missing the GF.
 
Bunk Moreland said:
It’s a tough question. Most will say Geelong because more people saw them and remember them better, being more recent. That’s always the way.

In a game, a lot would actually depend how the game is played imo. Essendon lost to one team that season and the template was clear - shut the game down defensively and play accountably and you could beat them. No other team tried it.

If Geelong did that then they’d be a big chance of winning because they had a super midfield and defence.

If it turned into a shootout then forget it, Essendon would blow them off the park just as they did every opponent. Too much firepower, averaged 131 ppg that season.

Geelong weren’t as dominant, there is no doubt about that. They lost four games during the year and even came within a bee’s dick of missing the GF.
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Well said.
 
Bunk Moreland said:
It’s a tough question. Most will say Geelong because more people saw them and remember them better, being more recent. That’s always the way.

In a game, a lot would actually depend how the game is played imo. Essendon lost to one team that season and the template was clear - shut the game down defensively and play accountably and you could beat them. No other team tried it.

If Geelong did that then they’d be a big chance of winning because they had a super midfield and defence.

If it turned into a shootout then forget it, Essendon would blow them off the park just as they did every opponent. Too much firepower, averaged 131 ppg that season.

Geelong weren’t as dominant, there is no doubt about that. They lost four games during the year and even came within a bee’s dick of missing the GF.
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Incredibly well put.

Geelong won the GF by 100+ against a side who won it's Prelim by 87.

So despite your eloquent writings it's pretty much a non-event.
 
Bunk Moreland said:
It’s a tough question. Most will say Geelong because more people saw them and remember them better, being more recent. That’s always the way.

In a game, a lot would actually depend how the game is played imo. Essendon lost to one team that season and the template was clear - shut the game down defensively and play accountably and you could beat them. No other team tried it.

If Geelong did that then they’d be a big chance of winning because they had a super midfield and defence.

If it turned into a shootout then forget it, Essendon would blow them off the park just as they did every opponent. Too much firepower, averaged 131 ppg that season.

Geelong weren’t as dominant, there is no doubt about that. They lost four games during the year and even came within a bee’s dick of missing the GF.
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Essebdon’s attack was incredible.

We did lose four games.

It’s convenient but it was pretty well acknowledged that we had two ‘parts’ to our season: pre round five and post round five.

If you’re going on win loss then we can’t beat Essendon. No one can. It was the most dominant flag season and our 2008 team would actually have a better chance.

But our post-round 5 football was flag football and our only f**k up and was where we took the foot off the gas and lost a nothing game in the second last round to end a 16 game streak or something.

So that would be my first observation.

During that time we averaged 121 points. Not as good as Essendon. Certainly not, but still bloody good attacking footy.

But we also averaged 70 points against per game.

Essendon averaged 80 points against per game.

Essendon averaged a 51 point win, from round 5 onward we averaged a 51 point win.

If ever there was a case of ‘our defence could stifle their attack, their attack could stretch our defence’ this would be it.
 
Cyber_punk said:
Not even close.

They went out in straight sets and didn't even have a key forward.
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They went out in straight sets because they had no Judd, Kerr and cousins. Yet still drew with us going into extra time. We lost hyb5 points to the cats. Eagles could have got them. They were Geelongs bogey side.
 

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Chip Scab1 said:
What were the same olds over by?

Remember they were already Premiers basically, lost the Prelim the year before when Carlton were $5 for the win.

Then proceeded to trade in; nobody.

Mmmm I wonder why!? Why? Because they were well over. Having lost Elim final to Norf in 1998, Prelim to Carlton in 1999 - they had nowhere to run. They were at least $1m over.

They were relying on ya Winis Imbi's and Simon Estaugh's of this world which says to me, Sheed's was having none of it, "we can't lose to these Minnows again, we're Essington FFS". He then went out and paid top $ to get John Barnes to take on McKernan and the rest is history.
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They were 125 over at one stage.
 
windyhill said:
They were 125 over at one stage.
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Only...Including Jimmy's wage?

My sources tell me outside of Jimmy Hird's contract they were under, but Jimmy was on $1m a year (injured of course) and not playing.

You got your flags in 1993 & 2000. We were much better than you in 1993. By 2000 you clearly had our measure.
 
PowerfulPies2023 said:
They went out in straight sets because they had no Judd, Kerr and cousins. Yet still drew with us going into extra time. We lost hyb5 points to the cats. Eagles could have got them. They were Geelongs bogey side.
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The eagles won their first 6 games and then for the rest of the year, went 9-9. Judd still played 19 games, Kerr 17. Even if Cousins played more games I can't see them bothering the cats, who lost just 1 game after round 5, which was by 5 points on the siren. Cousins and Judd played in the final against Port, and the eagles still lost.

The Eagles were a standard 'good' flag side and nothing more and badly lacked depth compared to the Cats. If they met them in the finals, especially on the MCG, it would have got ugly.
 
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Chip Scab1 said:
Only...Including Jimmy's wage?

My sources tell me outside of Jimmy Hird's contract they were under, but Jimmy was on $1m a year (injured of course) and not playing.

You got your flags in 1993 & 2000. We were much better than you in 1993. By 2000 you clearly had our measure.
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'93 remains sweet, incredibly lucky that year. Not sure how ,but it happened . Bit like North in '99, blues did your boys an almighty favour.
 
Cyber_punk said:
The eagles won their first 6 games and then for the rest of the year, went 9-9. Judd still played 19 games, Kerr 17. Even if Cousins played more games I can't see them bothering the cats, who lost just 1 game after round 5, which was by 5 points on the siren. Cousins and Judd played in the final against Port, and the eagles still lost.

The Eagles were a standard 'good' flag side and nothing more and badly lacked depth compared to the Cats. If they met them in the finals, especially on the MCG, it would have got ugly.
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Cousins went off injured and Judd played at FF after doing his hami. Yet they lost by just two points. With even just one of them healthy, they win and get a week off and a home prelim. If cousins plays all year they get top 2. Geelong and the rest of the comp were lucky.
 
PowerfulPies2023 said:
Cousins went off injured and Judd played at FF after doing his hami. Yet they lost by just two points. With even just one of them healthy, they win and get a week off and a home prelim. If cousins plays all year they get top 2. Geelong and the rest of the comp were lucky.
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We'll have to agree to disagree.

Even with those 3 men fit, they had no forward line to worry Geelong. I don't think they would have got within 10 goals.
 
PowerfulPies2023 said:
Cousins went off injured and Judd played at FF after doing his hami. Yet they lost by just two points. With even just one of them healthy, they win and get a week off and a home prelim. If cousins plays all year they get top 2. Geelong and the rest of the comp were lucky.
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No. Just no.
 

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