Autopsy 2025 Late flourish doesn't mask embarrassment

[AlecDuncan]

Look, obviously it isnt a great result but it was also expected and predictable. Anyone who is surprised hasn't been paying attention.

Why I tipped North this week. I’ve paid too much attention.

 

[GoBlues!]

I watched the game at home with my son. I’m old enough to have seen a few Carlton premierships and some great Carlton sides.

But I can’t help feel sorry for our younger supporters like my son (less than 30 years old ) and the disappointment they are experiencing.

I’m not really sure where we go from here. Our blue chip scoop at the 2015 draft is 10 years older. Our twin key forwards are hardly a threat anymore. If a change in coach is required to turn things around and raise the standard then I hope Wright can deliver.

 

[passmark]

Stuck in the mire of mediocrity. Now I know how it feels to be a St Kilda supporter.

Easy mate.

Step back from the ledge .

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Why I tipped North this week. I’ve paid too much attention.

Yep, short break from Perth (yeah realise they were there also) played in wet conditions, banged up players, some who played today off injury worries last week were poor and we are just not that great to begin with.

Oh and North smarting from the Good Friday Humiliation!!

 

[btdg]

We beat them by 14 goals in round 6.

To suggest today’s result was expected is nonsense.

Which result looks more like the outlier at this point?

I certainly predicted it. I'd love to hear the reasoning from anyone who thought we were going to win. Player for player North are better, and most here think the coach is ordinary so where does the win come from? Entitlement because we are Carlton? That's been the great hope for 25 years unfortunately

The issue is the lows are so low.

Calamity football - for qtrs 2 & 3.

Kick/mark/turnover - horrible.

I don’t think we’re this bad!

Funny thing is last week everyone was trashing the team after a 30pt win because we played one dominant quarter and then just defended the lead solidly for 3/4. Turns out that wasn't too bad compared with the alternative.b

We certainly managed some of the worst decision making and kicking inside 50 I can remember. It takes a pretty special effort to be +15 inside 50s and lose comofrtably

 

[TableSalt]

This is the sort of listless performance that historically has directly lead to the sacking of the coach after the game. Pagan after the Brisbane game in 2007, Ratten after the Gold Coast game in 2012, Malthouse after the Geelong game in 2015, Bolton after the Essendon game in 2019. It has that air of inevitability about it.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

We've become stkilda.
Leadership starts at the top and we've had none of that for 20 years.
Good leaders would've figured out Walsh has a debilitating back injury and needed to be traded last year before other clubs found out.
Same with Harry.
Hawthorn would've been ruthless in trading those 2 out.
Yes I like them but.

Crippa and Cerra both had 6 or 7 touches only in H1.

 

[luke livingston seagull]

I’ve said it before and will say it again. The amount of times Weitering goes down carrying on like his leg has fallen off only to run out the game…

Incredible player but I’m convinced he is not the leader many make him out to be.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

We just aren't willing to go there.

I don't know where it begins and ends, but there is a pervasive entitlement that holds us buck as a club.

The hard yards, the extra mile, the personal sacrifice.. whatever you want to call it, we simply aren't willing or able to plumb the depths that other clubs are in pursuit of success.

I don't know if it's borne of past success, or the safety net of rich benefactors, or the messiah complex of bringing in big names. We think being Carlton is enough.

It isn't.

Precisely, we don't have to do the clever or brave things because we are gilded. Things will just happen for us and I'm sorry to say it but a more innocent form of it trickles down to the supporter base.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

With a new President (Robert Priestley) and incoming CEO (Graham Wright) we can expect major changes.

the president who doesn't live in Victoria - peak stupidity!

 

[agro]

This is the sort of listless performance that historically has directly lead to the sacking of the coach after the game. Pagan after the Brisbane game in 2007, Ratten after the Gold Coast game in 2012, Malthouse after the Geelong game in 2015, Bolton after the Essendon game in 2019. It has that air of inevitability about it.

Walls after that Brisbane Bears game in 1989.

 

[myblueroan]

This is the sort of listless performance that historically has directly lead to the sacking of the coach after the game. Pagan after the Brisbane game in 2007, Ratten after the Gold Coast game in 2012, Malthouse after the Geelong game in 2015, Bolton after the Essendon game in 2019. It has that air of inevitability about it.

Surely we don't continue with Voss next year?

 

[Red Bull]

Everyone knew what was on the line today, except the players.

Oh they knew exactly what was on the line … and performed accordingly …

 

[BlueBlood15]

We just aren't willing to go there.

I don't know where it begins and ends, but there is a pervasive entitlement that holds us buck as a club.

The hard yards, the extra mile, the personal sacrifice.. whatever you want to call it, we simply aren't willing or able to plumb the depths that other clubs are in pursuit of success.

I don't know if it's borne of past success, or the safety net of rich benefactors, or the messiah complex of bringing in big names. We think being Carlton is enough.

It isn't.

We lost our soul as a club in 2002 and we’ve never been able to get it back. Soon after that we lost 40 consecutive years of Carlton premiership players when Kouta retired.

Culture is very difficult to build and very easy to lose. We’re the greatest example of that.

Our on field “leaders” have absolutely no idea what it takes to make a team successful. They’ve also been enabled by 20 years of administrative ineptitude. Essentially Carlton is a nice place to make some money, meet some good mates and live the life of an AFL player. Our guys are happy with that and don’t yearn for more.

 

[jj1978]

The presser

• 3rd quarter bake was to whole group
• After 4 seasons no where near as consistent as we’d like to be
• Supporters need to unite
• Not looking beyond Port game in relation to heat surrounding his job
• We’ll go after it

 

[Rustica]

Was a solid bake that one at 3 qtr time

Need more of it

May have left it too little too late though

 

[Broadside]

Walls after that Brisbane Bears game in 1989.

What a time - sacked 18 months after winning a flag and half a season after finishing 3rd

 

[agro]

What a time - sacked 18 months after winning a flag and half a season after finishing 3rd

You can’t let Warrick Capper kick the sealer from outside 50

 

[Just Kreuzing]

The presser

• 3rd quarter bake was to whole group
• After 4 seasons no where near as consistent as we’d like to be
• Supporters need to unite
• Not looking beyond Port game in relation to heat surrounding his job
• We’ll go after it

No learnings today…….

 

[Accidental genius]

Yea he rode a bike to the game today

Clown alright…

A million dollar a year player

 

[Broadside]

You can’t let Warrick Capper kick the sealer from outside 50

On a wet day too!

 

[Just Kreuzing]

You can’t let Warrick Capper kick the sealer from outside 50

Then got a club legend back to coach…….
Cue Ratten appointment…..

 

[Osc1]

Oh they knew exactly what was on the line … and performed accordingly …

Led by you know who

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Yea he rode a bike to the game today

Should have got on it in around F50 whilst he had it there…..

 

[Broadside]

Rides a bike to the game like a ****ing clown as well

Are you suggesting his bike is too small or that it has only one wheel? Either way it’s unacceptable.