Remember when anti semetic meant something?
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Just because w***ers like you perform it like a bodily function, doesn’t mean it has no meaning.
lol ok
Please give me literally any example ever of me being anti-semetic. Would love to see it.
Edit: I will say thank you very much for proving my point immediately though.
Saying that antisemitism has no meaning when you see an article about conspiracy theories such as “WWII is the fault of the Jews” and “ISIS is the Jews fault”.
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There is no way that Warren said that. Feel free to provide evidence he did if you have it, and not just someone twisting his words.
I mean even just looking at the article itself, he allegedly has a guest that refers to Mossad being involved in ISIS? Mossad is an Israeli government intelligence group. So using that logic if I say the CIA was responsible for killing JFK that makes me anti-Christian? Israel does not represent all Jewish people and criticising the Israeli government is not the same as criticising all Jewish people. I'd argue a huge % of the international Jewish diaspora would dislike a lot of what the Israeli government does.
With hindsight, the trajectory seems inevitable.
Can someone please give him some advice? if you have someone on your podcast that says antisemitic stuff (and yes, saying Zionists controlled WWII is antisemitic because they are using 'Zionist' as a substitute for 'Jew') you do not have to put that podcast out or, indeed, highlight the antisemitic part on your Instagram page.
Can someone please give him some advice? if you have someone on your podcast that says antisemitic stuff (and yes, saying Zionists controlled WWII is antisemitic because they are using 'Zionist' as a substitute for 'Jew') you do not have to put that podcast out or, indeed, highlight the antisemitic part on your Instagram page.
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Warren Tredrea social post promotes 'antisemitic conspiracy theories', Jewish Council says
The Jewish Council of Australia has condemned a social media post by AFL football legend Warren Tredrea, saying it promotes "far-right antisemitic conspiracy theories" and Holocaust denial.www.abc.net.au
Schulzenfest
TheBrownDog
Dude, come on. You're better than this.
Well its a word they're trying to smear him with so please feel free to provide any evidence at all of him being or promoting anti-semitism. I'm open to being convinced but given that for at least the last 5 years its a word that's been applied to anybody who even mildly disagrees with anything the Israeli government does, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Remember when Warren Tredrea meant something.
Promoting that podcast episode is literally promoting antisemitic ideas.
That is not to say he or his guest are antisemitic. The ideas though, definitely are for the reasons I set out above.
Note: I am not a supporter of the Israeli government or the IDF. I believe the government is committing heinous crimes against Palestinian people and is a rogue nation for its attacks on Iran.
Schulzenfest
TheBrownDog
Did you just not read the article at all?
This guy wasn't on there saying "bombing Palestine is bad", he was on there saying Jews caused WWII, 9/11 and ISIS.
Watch out someone will call you an anti-semite!!
I have no idea what the WW2 argument is (and lack the patience to go hear some probable nutter ramble about it) but Zionism is definitely not the same as Judaism.
My point holds regardless of what the article says. The word anti-semite has lost all meaning. Its used as a shield to deflect from criticism of the current Israeli government.
From the bit of the article I did read I saw nothing that said any of those things. The example I gave before was that a guest had said that Mossad caused ISIS (and it didn't even give any indication that Warren had agreed with that guest at all). That's completely different to saying all Jews are responsible for ISIS. Its specifically talking about an intelligence agency of the Israeli government. If that's one of the points being used to smear Warren with the anti-semitism brush I don't really need to look any further to know its a beat up.
Blaming Jewish people for everything that happens is a foundation of conspiracy stuff. They are secretly running the world and only Captain America Trump and Iron Man Musk can stop them. it goes without saying that Tredders and everyone he has on is anti-semetic.
Jews genetically engineered COVID to give everyone except themselves a mild cough, or something. RFK Jnr says this and Tredders believes it.
Jews genetically engineered COVID to give everyone except themselves a mild cough, or something. RFK Jnr says this and Tredders believes it.
I went and looked at Warren's Instagram to check if he had posted his guest saying Zionists controlled WWII. The guest did say it and Warren posted it.
I agree with you that 'Zionist' is not the same as 'Jewish' (there are Evangelical Christian Zionists). However, there are many people who use 'Zionist' as a substitute. When someone says something like the Zionists controlled WWII, there is a fair inference to be drawn that is exactly what they are doing and what it is meant to mean.
I also agree with you that the use of the term 'antisemitism' to shut down anyone critical of the Israeli state or its government is insidious. But, for the reasons I have set out, I do not think that is happening here. Context matters. As Schulzenfest points out, the guest listed a number of conspiracies, which he implied (if not expressly stated) were all caused by the one group. It fits with the kind of dog-whistling those who hold antisemitic ideas perpetuate and look for. The commenters on Warren's Instagram posts thought they knew what the guest meant.
In all, it was ridiculously bad judgment to put those comments on his show and highlight them in his Instagram feed.
Schulzenfest
TheBrownDog
A reasonable argument to make generally and one I'd even agree with to an extent, but not a defence of the material that was on this podcast, which was absolutely anti-Semitic by any definition.
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Tredder's 3 Instagram post of the interview with the 15-year British Army vet AJ Roberts, who served a long time in Afghanistan.
Another long time military veteran who would have seen some awful shit and has become pissed off and disillusioned with what his government and other governments have done in the name of war and national and allies security. Posted on 20th and 21st May. From all posts on Tredder's Instagram account he puts;
Unfiltered. Unapologetic. Ballsy.
Disclaimer: For entertainment only. Views are guests’ own. Not professional advice.
AJ Robert's take on Novichok and Salisbury - gotta admit this did grab my attention
AJ Robert's take on Covid and government control
AJ Robert's take on Israel and its development post WWII
Another long time military veteran who would have seen some awful shit and has become pissed off and disillusioned with what his government and other governments have done in the name of war and national and allies security. Posted on 20th and 21st May. From all posts on Tredder's Instagram account he puts;
Unfiltered. Unapologetic. Ballsy.
Disclaimer: For entertainment only. Views are guests’ own. Not professional advice.
AJ Robert's take on Novichok and Salisbury - gotta admit this did grab my attention
AJ Robert's take on Covid and government control
AJ Robert's take on Israel and its development post WWII
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"ISIS stands for Israeli Secret Intelligence Service". Baaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaa.
The idea that Mossad would invent an enemy, dress them up as a Fundamentalist Islamic terrorist group to fool the world and successfully fool the world for 20 years but give them a name that completely destroyed the illusion, is idiotic conspiracy theory at its highest.
Any association with that sort of idiocity ought disqualify you from (a) working with children (b) voting (c) being allowed to talk to people, let alone being on a board.
The idea that Mossad would invent an enemy, dress them up as a Fundamentalist Islamic terrorist group to fool the world and successfully fool the world for 20 years but give them a name that completely destroyed the illusion, is idiotic conspiracy theory at its highest.
Any association with that sort of idiocity ought disqualify you from (a) working with children (b) voting (c) being allowed to talk to people, let alone being on a board.
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I can't believe the conspiracy world and the real world are colliding like this though
If you don’t like Tredders podcast, don’t listen to it. If you want to believe the Zionist Jews are a morally superior people, always tell the truth & are beyond criticism that’s perfectly fine also.
History is full of uncomfortable truths, you’d be naive to think otherwise.
History is full of uncomfortable truths, you’d be naive to think otherwise.
