Autopsy Round 19 = Collingwood 78-79 Fremantle

[PowerfulPies2023]

Well we definitely haven’t picked our strongest side nor put in 100% effort either game so…

Not putting in 100 percent is concerning if it were true. We just weren't good enough.

 

[BillyElliott]

Losing last week fair enough. Not yesterday. Not two close games in a row.

Now the pressure is on. Lucky we have Richmond this week.

Well that's purely fixturing isn't it? We just happened to have 2 consecutive games against teams playing their heart out for finals. And lost by a goal and a point.

Had we played Tigers in between and won comfortably, it likely wouldn't seem so bad for some.

We're getting those injured players back, most of our veterans have been managed, our young kids have played multiple games..

 

[BillyElliott]

Well we definitely haven’t picked our strongest side nor put in 100% effort either game so…

How do the stats on our tackling & pressure rating indicate we weren't putting in 100% effort?

Credit to Suns & Dockers who both played extremely well.

 

[sr36]

Excuse my impertinence in coming on your Board, but kudos to this statement.
The 50m infringement for apparently pointing at the scoreboard was the worst decision in the game, and there were a number of howlers. But that one was unforgivable. That bloke should be back in the VFL for the rest of the year.
Good luck for rest of season!

It was a shocker of a day by the umpires. The number of howlers that resulted in goals either way was as high as you ever to see.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Well that's purely fixturing isn't it? We just happened to have 2 consecutive games against teams playing their heart out for finals. And lost by a goal and a point.

Had we played Tigers in between and won comfortably, it likely wouldn't seem so bad for some.

We're getting those injured players back, most of our veterans have been managed, our young kids have played multiple games..

Not fixturing. Losing to Fremantle was mentally weak. As well as physically. 22 points up at home is more than enough to hold on to.

It's a poor loss.

 

[stormskye]

Not fixturing. Losing to Fremantle was mentally weak. As well as physically. 22 points up at home is more than enough to hold on to.

It's a poor loss.

You should head down to the club and tell the players they are mentally and physically weak sitting top of the ladder

 

[sr36]

Not fixturing. Losing to Fremantle was mentally weak. As well as physically. 22 points up at home is more than enough to hold on to.

It's a poor loss.

I don't think it's mentally weak, but I do think we, like a few other teams, haven't learnt the lesson from the last couple of years - you've got to try to score and can't just go into defensive mode - as when teams charge at you and you're just playing safe, they're going to score and you're not. It worked for us in 2023, but teams hadn't drilled a full on attack mode then - they have now.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

You should head down to the club and tell the players they are mentally and physically weak sitting top of the ladder

Yesterday's loss was mentally and physically weak. Sitting top of the ladder has nothing to do with it. And we won't be top much longer playing like that. Brisbane and Adelaide would both roll us. Hawthorn could as well.

We need to be much better. There's tougher tests to come.

 

[BillyElliott]

Not fixturing. Losing to Fremantle was mentally weak. As well as physically. 22 points up at home is more than enough to hold on to.

It's a poor loss.

Fixturing as in we have Suns, Dockers, Tigers

If it were Suns, Tigers, Dockers with the same results including (hopefully) a big win against Tigers, I doubt it would seem so dire, was my point.

I'd rather have played Suns & Dockers at their absolute best now & learn from those losses now than in finals.

I strongly disagree there was any mental or physical weakness on our part. Our tackling & pressure rating certainly doesn't indicate there was. Both oppo teams played well. And credit to them.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Fixturing as in we have Suns, Dockers, Tigers

If it were Suns, Tigers, Dockers with the same results including (hopefully) a big win against Tigers, I doubt it would seem so dire, was my point.

I'd rather have played Suns & Dockers at their absolute best now & learn from those losses now than in finals.

I know what you meant. And it has nothing to do with it as I said. The loss against Fremantle was poor and inexcusable. It doesn't matter when it occurred.

 

[Pistol Night]

Losing last week fair enough. Not yesterday. Not two close games in a row.

Now the pressure is on. Lucky we have Richmond this week.

Brisbane next Saturday is going to be huge. If the boys cant get fired up for that we'll be in trouble. Keep our mental edge over them and help sew up top 2

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Brisbane next Saturday is going to be huge. If the boys cant get fired up for that we'll be in trouble. Keep our mental edge over them and help sew up top 2

That game is a grand final. Massive.

 

[BillyElliott]

I know what you meant. And it has nothing to do with it as I said. The loss against Fremantle was poor and inexcusable. It doesn't matter when it occurred.

One point

 

[Pistol Night]

That game is a grand final. Massive.

I dont think Briabane are that impressive really. Percentage is a good indicator of how you're travelling. Adelaide worry me but we always find a way against them

 

[stormskye]

Yesterday's loss was mentally and physically weak. Sitting top of the ladder has nothing to do with it. And we won't be top much longer playing like that. Brisbane and Adelaide would both roll us. Hawthorn could as well.

We need to be much better. There's tougher tests to come.

playing like what? Like this? In fact playing like this would normally mean an easy 6 goal win. Add in the 6 players out and we’d have won by 10 goals.

 

[Pistol Night]

playing like what? Like this? In fact playing like this would normally mean an easy 6 goal win. Add in the 6 players out and we’d have won by 10 goals.




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The inside 50 count compared to our usual efficiency is stark

 

[stormskye]

The inside 50 count compared to our usual efficiency is stark

I’ve got to avoid this place after a loss. 1 pt one at that. The Eeyores do my head in.

 

[BillyElliott]

The inside 50 count compared to our usual efficiency is stark

It was totally uncharacteristic. I think we all know what Fly will be concentrating on this week.

 

[sr36]

Brisbane next Saturday is going to be huge. If the boys cant get fired up for that we'll be in trouble. Keep our mental edge over them and help sew up top 2

FFS Pistol. Have you become a Suns fan?

 

[Pistol Night]

It was totally uncharacteristic. I think we all know what Fly will be concentrating on this week.

Was it Freo last time where we were ridiculously efficient going forward? 34 Inside 50s to their 62! For 15 goals. Back to that please

 

[Pistol Night]

FFS Pistol. Have you become a Suns fan?

Well were ****ed evidently so Ive thrown my car keys in the Suns bowl

 

[sr36]

Well were ****ed evidently so Ive thrown my car keys in the Suns bowl

We're ****ed. Absolute calamity has hit us a fortnight earlier than in 2023 when it wasn't until round 20 and 21 that complete disaster struck with a couple of losses.

 

[brysie]

Well were ****ed evidently so Ive thrown my car keys in the Suns bowl

What do you reckon Warwick Capper drives?

 

[Pistol Night]

What do you reckon Warwick Capper drives?

Ford Cappari!!

 

[BillyElliott]

Was it Freo last time where we were ridiculously efficient going forward? 34 Inside 50s to their 62! For 15 goals. Back to that please

Yes.