Autopsy AFL 2025 Rd 20 - Crows v Port - Sat July 26th 7:40PM ACST/ 8:10pm AEST (Adelaide Oval)

[SC_Power]

Not sure this is the place to post this, but I think I've stumbled upon the main reason why the succession plan with Ken and Josh Carr was doomed.. There has been so much debate and I knew it felt wrong but couldn't put my finger on it.. until now.

Kenny was speaking this week saying this and that about the importance of Showdowns etc. and then Assistant coach Hartlett comes out when asked about playing for Kens last showdown and says, "you know Kenny, he doesn't want the game to be about him."

BUT, Having a succession plan means whether you like it or not, eventually, everything will boil down to Kenny's last time doing, well, everything. Coaching at the G, coaching a Showdown, Coaching a home game, Coaching a final, or whatever was bound to happen this year..

So the problem is, the players have this extra thing in the back of their mind. It's a distraction, pure and simple. And there was no need to do it publicly and invite the scrutiny. So, I think this is the last time we will see a club go down this path. It's not good for anybody.

See I don’t agree with this take.

If we were having this season with only Ken coaching in his final year, the drums would be beating for the sack. Players would still be thinking about him and playing poorly?

The best solution was to sack Ken 6/7 years ago.
The next best solution is right now.

 

[The 747]

See I don’t agree with this take.

If we were having this season with only Ken coaching in his final year, the drums would be beating for the sack. Players would still be thinking about him and playing poorly?

The best solution was to sack Ken 6/7 years ago.
The next best solution is right now.

I am sure Port fans can think of a way to sack Ken twice. Wonder what y'all will post about next year, probably still Ken.

On topic, annoying that this clashes with the Cats game.

 

[SC_Power]

I am sure Port fans can think of a way to sack Ken twice. Wonder what y'all will post about next year, probably still Ken.

On topic, annoying that this clashes with the Cats game.

if we win next year, the media will be all about Ken’s legacy.
If we lose next year, the media will be all about how good it was under Ken.

On topic, annoying that this clashes with the British Lions game!

 

[GoldbergsGold]

Not sure this is the place to post this, but I think I've stumbled upon the main reason why the succession plan with Ken and Josh Carr was doomed.. There has been so much debate and I knew it felt wrong but couldn't put my finger on it.. until now.

Kenny was speaking this week saying this and that about the importance of Showdowns etc. and then Assistant coach Hartlett comes out when asked about playing for Kens last showdown and says, "you know Kenny, he doesn't want the game to be about him."

BUT, Having a succession plan means whether you like it or not, eventually, everything will boil down to Kenny's last time doing, well, everything. Coaching at the G, coaching a Showdown, Coaching a home game, Coaching a final, or whatever was bound to happen this year..

So the problem is, the players have this extra thing in the back of their mind. It's a distraction, pure and simple. And there was no need to do it publicly and invite the scrutiny. So, I think this is the last time we will see a club go down this path. It's not good for anybody.

Port put up the white flag even before the 2025 season started, when they traded Houston and went with the lame duck coach scenario. This was very predictable they were going to throw the season away for Daddy Donuts farewell tour.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

You'd think Crows easily, if Port were at full strength then I would have thought 50/50, Port's list is better than the garbage they produced, this year, their whole culture/coaching/management is what let them down.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

History tells us that the teams place on the ladder means nothing when it comes to showdown results. If the crows come in complacent, expecting a guaranteed win, I'd predict that they're going to lose hard.

A team that can't win showdowns can't win a premiership. The Crows need to come out firing from the first bounce to confirm they're contenders.

The vast majority of time the favourite has won the Showdown.

We just need to bring our best in atrocious conditions

 

[Hobbes]

In the SANFL. Adelaide are currently leading by 14 points, and that’s not 2 goals 2 - it’s 14 points.

 

[Norwood1878]

The gap between our best and worst has tightened quite a bit this season but even knowing Adelaide should win easily i'm still scarred from the last few years that i'm always expecting to lose.
The crows by 9 goals.

 

[57 Milner]

Weather like this makes you wish we were playing the dogs at Marvel.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

In the SANFL. Adelaide are currently leading by 14 points, and that’s not 2 goals 2 - it’s 14 points.

Hope the AFL side kicks more accurately!

 

[The 747]

if we win next year, the media will be all about Ken’s legacy.
If we lose next year, the media will be all about how good it was under Ken.

On topic, annoying that this clashes with the British Lions game!

Also annoying that it clashes with India v England

 

[bzparkes]

 

[HairyO]

Havent seen that since the 80s when theyd have beers at half time.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

That’s dumber the Judd chicken winging Adams

 

[matty lloyd the champ]

Wish they show more Showdown/Derby games on Victorian free to air tv.

 

[bzparkes]

Havent seen that since the 80s when theyd have beers at half time.

Murray Newman would like a word...

 

[Headless]

Wish they show more Showdown/Derby games on Victorian free to air tv.

I reckon Adelaide v. Port Adelaide games are my favourite all season.

 

[NeedForTheReids]

Murray Newman would like a word...

Real ones know Murray Newman

 

[NeedForTheReids]

I reckon Adelaide v. Port Adelaide games are my favourite all season.

100% same. Out of any of the cross town rivalries the showdown has to be top priority for FNF

 

[parano1a]

Breaking news:

 

[Billy ray]

As i posted in Sydney derby thread, has there ever been a showdown/wa derby/qclash and sydney derby live free to air nationwide?? Other than the handful of finals?

 

[Headless]

ANB.

 

[LOLchie Schultz]

Tex trying to soccer kick the ball into Power fans is a dogs act!

 

[NeedForTheReids]

As i posted in Sydney derby thread, has there ever been a showdown/wa derby/qclash and sydney derby live free to air nationwide?? Other than the handful of finals?

Think one of the showdowns last year was a Thursday night but that doesn’t do it justice.. has to be a Friday

 

[voorhees]

keys always manages to get a goal or two