Recommitted Patrick Cripps [UFA 2027] - name was floated for a move in 2025, stayed

[Taylor]

A mid teens pick value on Cripps seems incredibly fair to me

I agree with this, I don't think the Blues would.

 

[Elixuh]

Not for the price Carlton would expect for him, hence why I said they'd need to be doing him a favor to send him home and then using his salary to keep their other players.

Not interested in paying multiple firsts for a guy we get three years out of, who could fall over as soon as next season.

Somewhat agree but you also need to take risks to win a flag

 

[stallon]

I agree with this, I don't think the Blues would.

Itll really depend on if Carlton says **** it and goes for a rebuild, trading out Curnow.

If Curnow goes and Cripps asks out I think it'd get done for something reasonable.

Only awkward bit is Harry dean being around the pick 8-10 areas, it'd have to be the pick upgrade because a pick 10-14 would just get eaten up

 

[Taylor]

Somewhat agree but you also need to take risks to win a flag

It makes it very easy to trade first round picks when you've got top ten academy/FS picks coming over the next few years.

Freo has gotten very lucky with drafting both Treacy and Voss off the rookie list. We can't be paying Jackson and Bolton level trade currency over and over without it biting later.

 

[Taylor]

Itll really depend on if Carlton says **** it and goes for a rebuild, trading out Curnow.

If Curnow goes and Cripps asks out I think it'd get done for something reasonable.

Only awkward bit is Harry dean being around the pick 8-10 areas, it'd have to be the pick upgrade because a pick 10-14 would just get eaten up

Having seen how much better Reid plays with Yeo in the side, I think WC should be going after Cripps with all of that McGovern money freed up from next year's cap.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

A mid teens pick value on Cripps seems incredibly fair to me, I feel hesitant about it and it is still a first round pick which would satisfy the nuffy blues supporters who know nothing about the draft, and still call up the radio after every loss.

Carltons pick 6/7/8 whatever the compo ends up at from tdk could feasibly get eaten in a bid on their father son who cal put in the top 10 the other day.
Pick 2 gets them a CDT or Duursma

I think a pick in the low teens plus change is pretty fair or overs given his age, I just dont think that's justifiable for WC but that's because...

We most definitely need older players, and this is the perfect offseason to do that. We have enough picks to take high end talent and bring in leaders to nurture that talent. Duggan and Kelly are not cutting the mustard.

We also have good talent on the list (controversial take) but that means diddly squat when they’re all children playing against men and your WAFL team is hot dog water.

I really disagree on the talent on the WC list which is a conversation for elsewhere

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Having seen how much better Reid plays with Yeo in the side, I think WC should be going after Cripps with all of that McGovern money freed up from next year's cap.

You are a bad bad person haha

 

[Taylor]

You are a bad bad person haha

I think if WC can somehow turn Oscar Allen into Patrick Cripps and Darcy Cameron then they have fixed a massive problem which was going to hold back development of their young side. Starting the game off half back is not good for anyone.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think if WC can somehow turn Oscar Allen into Patrick Cripps and Darcy Cameron then they have fixed a massive problem which was going to hold back development of their young side. Starting the game off half back is not good for anyone.

 

[bzparkes]

I think a pick in the low teens plus change is pretty fair or overs given his age, I just dont think that's justifiable for WC but that's because...

I really disagree on the talent on the WC list which is a conversation for elsewhere

If we keep this year's first 2 picks(presuming pick 2 for compo), then that's probably enough high end this draft with our NGA picks over the next couple of years to flesh it out. We have 2 projected to potentially go in the first round next year and Koby Evans was on track this year, before he busted his back, to be a late first/early 2nd rounder.

Can't see Hawks first not being included. Just depends who WCE have eyes on really. The champs didn't really clear things up all that much in regards tot he draft this year. At least, not for non-academy players.

Don't want to be touching next year's first, need that to attempt to get Axel Walsh from being pre-selected by Tassie, or whatever's going on there.

Just depends on what the AFL decides to give us, I guess.

 

[Elixuh]

It makes it very easy to trade first round picks when you've got top ten academy/FS picks coming over the next few years.

Freo has gotten very lucky with drafting both Treacy and Voss off the rookie list. We can't be paying Jackson and Bolton level trade currency over and over without it biting later.

I hear old Freo have a few highly rated NGA prospects in the pipeline.

 

[Taylor]

I hear old Freo have a few highly rated NGA prospects in the pipeline.

NGA rules could change as soon as 2027 but next year does have a player very similar to Patrick Cripps.

Carlton would only be letting go at all if it serves their club interests - even if he had a huge falling out with Voss the coach would be replaced before Cripps is traded.

Perhaps Brisbane could sell salary cap space to Carlton for their future first.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I hear old Freo have a few highly rated NGA prospects in the pipeline.

Unless the ones we have this year have tanked their draft range just for us, we have one highly rated NGA for next year, just one =(

 

[Elixuh]

NGA rules could change as soon as 2027 but next year does have a player very similar to Patrick Cripps.

Carlton would only be letting go at all if it serves their club interests - even if he had a huge falling out with Voss the coach would be replaced before Cripps is traded.

Perhaps Brisbane could sell salary cap space to Carlton for their future first.

Brisbane doesn’t have a salary cap

 

[Obeanie1]

Realistically we arent going to get him for super cheap. He's still a very good player, and the blues giving him away for anything less than a first rounder would actually get fans burning down ikon park.

Hes banged up but hes still been pretty durable, played every game this year after winning the brownlow last year. Hes not Fyfe or Yeo lol.
We could just give him a couple of rests if needed too, no biggie.

The but about Dean getting a top 10 pick bid is why I think the blues would be keen to trade up as part of a Cripps deal.

Jagga, CDT and Dean over 2 years as top 10 picks is a solid start to a rebuild.
We could even throw in JWilliams or something if they dump Curnow/McKay for picks too.

Sorry, no 1st rounder for Cripps.

If he wants to retire in the West' Eagles can help.

But not at the expense of the rebuild or 1st round picks.

It's a salary dump helping a champion through to retirement deal. Eagles would be dumb to give up any 1st round picks. It wasnt part of their plans and is a short term band aid. A high quality person and leader yes, but two years is likely and his body says "enough".

 

[Cyclops]

Terrible news if true. Cripps has carried Carlton for so long, surely they look after him now.

If Cripps wants to go home to enjoy life then Carlton should get it done out of respect.

 

[ghostbat12]

I think if WC can somehow turn Oscar Allen into Patrick Cripps and Darcy Cameron then they have fixed a massive problem which was going to hold back development of their young side. Starting the game off half back is not good for anyone.

yeh? So we trade a 26 year old captain for a bunch of 31 year olds at early half of next season and we can call it that we have solved all our problems?

we would give up pick 2 for all of that! I mean makes you wonder what people are smoking over there. maybe not enough of it.

look at Mitchell deal to WCE and that may be closer to price paid. Of course he is worth to Carlton more than that but he is a player on severe decline. you don't pay pick 2 for that. I guess one can keep dreaming.

 

[Taylor]

yeh? So we trade a 26 year old captain for a bunch of 31 year olds at early half of next season and we can call it that we have solved all our problems?

we would give up pick 2 for all of that! I mean makes you wonder what people are smoking over there. maybe not enough of it.

look at Mitchell deal to WCE and that may be closer to price paid. Of course he is worth to Carlton more than that but he is a player on severe decline. you don't pay pick 2 for that. I guess one can keep dreaming.

You're not trading Oscar Allen, you're just not offering him enough to sign an extension and stay and the AFL is giving you pick #2 for that.

If you can then turn pick #2 into Cripps and Cameron, both contracted, then you're on a huge win.

Eagles biggest hole at the moment is that the ruck division is playing a fwd/ruck as the primary and needs a proper AFL ruck and the midfield need a big body to force a choice between Yeo/Cripps/Reid for the opposition's big body.

Forget the step in the middle, forget it's pick #2 just like it was pick #3 last year, forget the pick. Oscar Allen into Cripps and Cameron is a win.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Lets see how freo go as a whole in the midfield vs Brisbane, Dogs and EF

I think a big mid can work. Young probably explores fwd stuff more as does Jackson

Or it allows them to play Jackson as rhe sole ruck more often aswell

Or S.Darcy and Freos 1st rounder for Cripps with TDK departing

Darcy is still needed, Jackson gets monstered in the ruck occasionally. I don't think Freo would make that move, As good as Crippa is.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Any source for this? Surely if Freo aren't interested, he would look elsewhere to a team that can contend. No offense to WCE, but I don't think they would currently be a desirable location for someone like Cripps.

 

[TiAn_]

WC having Patrick Cripps

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Patrick Cripps

Age

30

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

fall in their lap but fumbling it because they refuse to trade a compensation pick in a bog ordinary draft would be a great way to show Reid they’re completely unserious about being competitive any time soon.

 

[Scotland]

Cripps like Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

30

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

is worth more to stay than what WC should sensibly be prepared to offer.

Carlton cop a lot of shit for their lop sided salary cap but trading out one or two big names is doable. Conducting a fire sale is problematic because of the impact on the cap. Would be surprised if more than one or two players are traded if any.

TBF after last year they should give us Cripps for nothing.

 

[stallon]

Sorry, no 1st rounder for Cripps.

If he wants to retire in the West' Eagles can help.

But not at the expense of the rebuild or 1st round picks.

It's a salary dump helping a champion through to retirement deal. Eagles would be dumb to give up any 1st round picks. It wasnt part of their plans and is a short term band aid. A high quality person and leader yes, but two years is likely and his body says "enough".

It wouldnt be at the expense of the rebuild.
Imo he would be a very important part of the rebuild, even if he cost a mid teens pick equivalent value.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

It wouldnt be at the expense of the rebuild.
Imo he would be a very important part of the rebuild, even if he cost a mid teens pick equivalent value.

I think during the whole Baker thing, I went through and literally checked trades for the last 20 years and found like 1 or 2 occasions a bottom 4 team used a top 20 pick on someone 26 and over. I reckon if you applied that criteria to over 30 you'd find it's never been done and if WC got Cripps and Cameron you could do it twice in one year...

 

[stallon]

I think during the whole Baker thing, I went through and literally checked trades for the last 20 years and found like 1 or 2 occasions a bottom 4 team used a top 20 pick on someone 26 and over. I reckon if you applied that criteria to over 30 you'd find it's never been done and if WC got Cripps and Cameron you could do it twice in one year...

We are not in a typical rebuild.
Our older players who were meant to be there as the leaders/carrying the load have all been injured to retirement or just cant get on the park, or have lost interest.

If we had a moderately fit and interested Yeo, Kelly, Sheed, Gov, etc then we wouldnt need to bring in "good" mature players.