Recommitted Patrick Cripps [UFA 2027] - name was floated for a move in 2025, stayed

[Snuffaluphagus]

We are not in a typical rebuild.
Our older players who were meant to be there as the leaders/carrying the load have all been injured to retirement or just cant get on the park, or have lost interest.

If we had a moderately fit and interested Yeo, Kelly, Sheed, Gov, etc then we wouldnt need to bring in "good" mature players.

I'm sure there's plenty of teams over the course of history who have been in as bad a position? This just goes against all established list building strategies. You must have doubts this would be the correct thing to do, surely?

 

[Scotland]

A lot depends on how the Allen thing plays out and if the AFL are feeling charitable.

1, 12, 19, 30 for example is a different conversation to 1, 2, 13, 20, 21, 32.

Carlton currently have no first rounder and have expressed no desire to trade anyone. If they decide to trade McKay to Sydney or TDK goes then suddenly they have a top 10 pick or two. If they choose to prioritise youth how much motivation do they have to try and get into the top 3 again? Etc. They would be pretty dumb to just trade Cripps for a late first and then run it back. It would have to be part of an overall strategy.

 

[Skinnyfwdpocket]

Graham Wright fire sale 2.0... Same thing he did at Collingwood, Grundy & Treloar out.

Fremantle would be crazy not to ask the question, their team is young, this year is a heavily comprised draft, and their current pick (14) could end up closer to 30.

Carlton will obviously want more then Fremantle's first rounder but unless there is a superstar WA player they are looking to draft they should be having a look at Cripps.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I'm sure there's plenty of teams over the course of history who have been in as bad a position? This just goes against all established list building strategies. You must have doubts this would be the correct thing to do, surely?

It goes for all list building strategies in reality. Best example is Brisbane I think. In the year they let Tom Rockliff go in free agency they got Luke Hodge in. The following season they then went and got Lachie Neale, Marcus Adams, Lincoln McCarthy and Jarrod Lyons.

We let Oscar Allen go and need to find our Luke Hodge. I think Cripps would be a good example of that

 

[Scotland]

I'm sure there's plenty of teams over the course of history who have been in as bad a position? This just goes against all established list building strategies. You must have doubts this would be the correct thing to do, surely?

I think we get it that you don't rate WC. Do you have any other records to play?

We've all also heard 1,000 times that everything is our fault. We have no yoof, we have no senior players etc. etc.

I'm pleased the club is looking at things like letting a good player go via FA to get an early compo pick, bringing in some more experienced players, putting forward our case for a PP etc. The alternative is we sit around feeling sorry for ourselves and just take a couple of picks to the draft then people hang shit on us for not being proactive. But this isn't 'how shit are WC?' v9000.

WC with Cripps > WC without. Carlton with Cripps > Carlton without. There isn't an obvious trade that suits both parties so plenty to play out.

 

[Taylor]

The AFL giving WC a pick that must be traded for a player would help push this one along.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

It goes for all list building strategies in reality. Best example is Brisbane I think. In the year they let Tom Rockliff go in free agency they got Luke Hodge in. The following season they then went and got Lachie Neale, Marcus Adams, Lincoln McCarthy and Jarrod Lyons.

We let Oscar Allen go and need to find our Luke Hodge. I think Cripps would be a good example of that

I'm sorry but no, this is incorrect and poor logic. One is free, one is costing a good first round pick. If Cripps was FA, pay him 1.5m a year for 3 years, but he's not. Neale was 24 or 25 heading into his prime, something similar with McCarthy.

I would also argue there was a massive difference in the talent on each list at the time but that's separate.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I'm sorry but no, this is incorrect and poor logic. One is free, one is costing a good first round pick. If Cripps was FA, pay him 1.5m a year for 3 years, but he's not. Neale was 24 or 25 heading into his prime, something similar with McCarthy.

I would also argue there was a massive difference in the talent on each list at the time but that's separate.

I cant see any world which we wouldnt get AFL priority picks to use on getting Cripps in.

People who think we wont get assistance are in for a rude shock. The logic that we are asking just to be told No is insane. We are clearly asking because we know the answer is Yes. People gotta come to terms with it

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think we get it that you don't rate WC. Do you have any other records to play?

We've all also heard 1,000 times that everything is our fault. We have no yoof, we have no senior players etc. etc.

I'm pleased the club is looking at things like letting a good player go via FA to get an early compo pick, bringing in some more experienced players, putting forward our case for a PP etc. The alternative is we sit around feeling sorry for ourselves and just take a couple of picks to the draft then people hang shit on us for not being proactive. But this isn't 'how shit are WC?' v9000.

WC with Cripps > WC without. Carlton with Cripps > Carlton without. There isn't an obvious trade that suits both parties so plenty to play out.

Harsh Scotland, I have very deliberately tried to avoid just dumping on the list (here anyway, I've certainly made my opinion on the Freo board, happy to admit that) though it's hard to have this discussion without at least half mentioning it. This is not a discussion about the state of your list anyway, it's about list building and discussing list building and targets.

I'll be the first to admit I'm just a nuffy on the internet and get things wrong all the time but I just dont understand how so many can be so keen to dump valuable capital on over 30 year olds.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I cant see any world which we wouldnt get AFL priority picks to use on getting Cripps in.

People who think we wont get assistance are in for a rude shock. The logic that we are asking just to be told No is insane. We are clearly asking because we know the answer is Yes. People gotta come to terms with it

Getting picks that must be traded is then something I'd understand and would make sense

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Getting picks that must be traded is then something I'd understand and would make sense

If wet priority picks we are never going to use them. I mean we alredy have 4 picks inside the 20 and then outside the 20 our NGAs are looking draftable. On what planet would we want 2 more picks and to take 6 picks inside the top 20? especially in a shallow draft

If picks come in they leaving for players. Cripps would be a great option. If the choices are Erasmus or Cripps I think Cripps wins here

 

[Tugga27]

Has there been anything posted or mentioned in the media he wants out, or is it BF bullshit?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Has there been anything posted or mentioned in the media he wants out, or is it BF bullshit?

All BF bullshit for now

 

[Bald]

I might be on an island here but I would've thought Cripps is exactly what West Coast needs.

 

[ghostbat12]

You're not trading Oscar Allen, you're just not offering him enough to sign an extension and stay and the AFL is giving you pick #2 for that.

If you can then turn pick #2 into Cripps and Cameron, both contracted, then you're on a huge win.

Eagles biggest hole at the moment is that the ruck division is playing a fwd/ruck as the primary and needs a proper AFL ruck and the midfield need a big body to force a choice between Yeo/Cripps/Reid for the opposition's big body.

Forget the step in the middle, forget it's pick #2 just like it was pick #3 last year, forget the pick. Oscar Allen into Cripps and Cameron is a win.

I can guarantee you that pick 2 for two 31 year olds in 2026 is not a win.

fact that Carlton fans are happy to push him out the door is all thats needed. hoping to hoodwink someone?

 

[ghostbat12]

I might be on an island here but I would've thought Cripps is exactly what West Coast needs.

a 31 year old slow player past his best?

yep thats exactly what we need.

 

[Bald]

a 31 year old slow player past his best?

yep thats exactly what we need.

You don't need players to help you win now. You need players to drive standards and lead.

One of your captains is out the door and the other isn't a captains arseh*le. Harley needs help, and the only bloke who can help him is very injured all of the time.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You don't need players to help you win now. You need players to drive standards and lead.

One of your captains is out the door and the other isn't a captains arseh*le. Harley needs help, and the only bloke who can help him is very injured all of the time.

Is that worth paying a first round pick for? I think he's perfect if he was free

 

[Bald]

Is that worth paying a first round pick for? I think he's perfect if he was free

I haven't really considered the cost, I wouldn't have thought it was worth a top end first round pick, no.

 

[Keystone agony]

You don't need players to help you win now. You need players to drive standards and lead.

One of your captains is out the door and the other isn't a captains arseh*le. Harley needs help, and the only bloke who can help him is very injured all of the time.

You dont give up pick 2 for that though

North havnt really had success in bringing in 'leaders' to drive standards. I think its a bit of a furphy tbh

Leaders will develop and drive standards naturally

They did also get Baker and Graham for this partly

Also think its pretty hard to come straight in and bark instructions expecting to be respected from day dot when youve not been there before. Would never go down well with me

 

[Bald]

You dont give up pick 2 for that though

North havnt really had success in bringing in 'leaders' to drive standards. I think its a bit of a furphy tbh

Leaders will develop and drive standards naturally

They did also get Baker and Graham for this partly

Also think its pretty hard to come straight in and bark instructions expecting to be respected from day dot when youve not been there before. Would never go down well with me

I don't think I mentioned pick 2 changing hands. I think an end of first round pick would be appropriate but nothing more than that.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Youd be lucky if 20% of BF rumours end up true

Which is why everything thinks Geelong must be over the cap. They're counting players that never get listed for us

 

[bzparkes]

You dont give up pick 2 for that though

North havnt really had success in bringing in 'leaders' to drive standards. I think its a bit of a furphy tbh

Leaders will develop and drive standards naturally

They did also get Baker and Graham for this partly

Also think its pretty hard to come straight in and bark instructions expecting to be respected from day dot when youve not been there before. Would never go down well with me

At least we'd be giving up pick 2 for Paddy Cripps and Darcy Cameron in that scenario and not Caleb Daniel

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Patrick Cripps for AFL compensation pick should be the deal. Give Eagles pick 10 that we must trade away and just trade it for Cripps

Compenwhatnow?

 

[Scotland]

You don't need players to help you win now. You need players to drive standards and lead.

One of your captains is out the door and the other isn't a captains arseh*le. Harley needs help, and the only bloke who can help him is very injured all of the time.

Of all the established stars 30 or over being mooted, Cripps has plenty of experience doing the hard yards in teams that suck. He was AA in 2018 as a 23 year old in a team that won 2 games.

Would be an incredible pick up at the right price.